The part of Pierce's post on Manning that Alfred quoted is not the important part. This is:
I would like one person to explain to me how any of the following would improve if Chelsea Manning were the senator from Maryland instead of Ben Cardin.1) The national government;2) The lives of the people of Maryland, and,3) Any progressive policy not drawn up with spray-paint on the side of an abandoned factory.And please, show your work. Also, any answer containing the phrase, “neo-McCarthyism” is automatically disqualified.
1) The national government;
2) The lives of the people of Maryland, and,
3) Any progressive policy not drawn up with spray-paint on the side of an abandoned factory.
And please, show your work. Also, any answer containing the phrase, “neo-McCarthyism” is automatically disqualified.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link
WASHINGTON (AP) — Legislation extending a government program established to gather information from foreigners overseas has cleared a key Senate hurdle.The Senate voted 60-38 to limit debate on the six-year reauthorization of the National Security Agency’s warrantless surveillance program.Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill’s vote to limit debate got supporters to the threshold needed for the Senate to move to a final vote.Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer had pushed Democrats to oppose limiting debate, saying lawmakers from both parties should get an opportunity to offer amendments.
The Senate voted 60-38 to limit debate on the six-year reauthorization of the National Security Agency’s warrantless surveillance program.
Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill’s vote to limit debate got supporters to the threshold needed for the Senate to move to a final vote.
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer had pushed Democrats to oppose limiting debate, saying lawmakers from both parties should get an opportunity to offer amendments.
here are the 18 senate democrats who got it to 60 votes:
Tom Carper (Del.), Bob Casey (Pa.), Catherine Cortez Masto (Nev.), Joe Donnelly (Ind.), Tammy Duckworth (Ill.), Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), Maggie Hassan (N.H.), Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), Doug Jones (Ala.), Amy Klobuchar (Minn.), Joe Manchin (W.V.), Claire McCaskill (Mo.), Bill Nelson (Fla.), Gary Peters (Mich.), Jack Reed (R.I.), Jeanne Shaheen (N.H.), Mark Warner (Va.), Sheldon Whitehouse (R.I.).
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
my boy Bill Nelson
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
MORE POWER FOR THE MAD GOD-KING
― grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link
so much for my tentative endorsement of Duckworth
so tired of Dems doing this shit under the guise of "bipartisanship" or w/e
primary them all
― sleeve, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I know Duckworth is a military vet and that probably affects her vote but jfc
― Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
wonder if they would have voted down the Shithole Intelligence of Surveillance Act
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link
“Ugh, here we go” for next month’s thread title plz
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link
http://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/stormy-daniels-describes-sex-with-trump-in-cringe-worthy-detail-ugh-here-we-go-please-dont-pay-me/
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link
digression i suppose but charles pierce is the most unreadable writer who evidently puts a lot of work into their sentences this side of james wolcott
― mark s, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link
Chas Pierce can gtfo
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link
modern life gets snrubbisher
― mark s, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link
lol what a dumbass, this is literally how you tell if they'll work
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link
This strikes me as not a smart move
#BREAKING: White House told Bannon attorney when not to respond during House interview: report https://t.co/dRTRatkQDr pic.twitter.com/TPpRS5ofkE— The Hill (@thehill) January 17, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link
Also, all kinds of fun in here
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonleopold/newly-uncovered-russian-payments-are-a-focus-of-election
Yeah, just saw that:
US authorities are poring over hundreds of newly uncovered payments from Russian diplomatic accounts. Among them are transactions by former ambassador Sergey Kislyak 10 days after the 2016 presidential election and a blocked $150,000 cash withdrawal five days after the inauguration.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link
here's one improvement over Cardin: not fellating Netanyahu
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link
assuming some busybody editor made him cut the brilliant menckenesque epithet he'd prepared for chelsea manning, but while we're here, they're worse than trump's
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link
Bankers flagged it to the US government as suspicious in part because the transaction, MARKED PAYROLL, didn’t fit prior pay patterns.
hahaha
― Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, January 17, 2018 12
I've wanted to poll these for a while, suspect that Big Chicken and Huckleberry Butchmeup will win.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link
be sure to list each of the options 9000 times
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
― mark s, Wednesday, January 17, 2018 12:21 PM
He's terrific when he remembers he was a reporter and writes like one.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
Woke Axl Rose is still something to contemplate
Now we know what the W. stands for, huh
― Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:07 (six years ago) link
well played, sir
― sleeve, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link
Huckleberry Butchmeup
what does this mean
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:27 (six years ago) link
it means someone wants to call Lindsey Graham gay and they also hate southerners
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link
where do the Lindsey Graham gay rumors come from? is there anything behind them beyond his being single?
― (the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link
Isn't that enough in the US?
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link
Y'know, place is full of Christians after all.
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
that buzzfeed article is fascinating
― Dan S, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
so fucking sick of this idea that a government "shutdown" stops the military from working it's such bullshit and SHS stands up there and claims it but they say nothing to dispute it.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link
if you wanted to make a concern troll argument, it's also kind of a dumb thing to say when you allegedly have multiple countries who would like to target the U.S.
"let's get 'em, the military's standing down!"
― omar little, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link
Porn star Stormy Daniels to 'In Touch': Trump said I was “just like his daughter” https://t.co/hk64QhwTMd pic.twitter.com/CAz9ZxiTBp— SPIN (@SPIN) January 17, 2018
― Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link
Trump, one figures, was talking about Ivanka Trump, who was 24 at the time. (His other daughter, Tiffany, would have been 11.)
― omar little, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link
cool news cycle
― Simon H., Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link
sorry just vomited all over my keyboard
― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link
Plus he's never fancied Tiffany anyway.
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link
She's not wrong.
http://i2.wp.com/www.mycelebrity.eu/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Ivanka-Trump-Hot-12.jpg
― Sanpaku, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:24 (six years ago) link
honestly can't tell from the quotes I've seen if SD is a savvy opportunist who's telling everyone exactly what they want to hear to match their (correctly) low opinions of Trump or if he really is just that predictable
― Simon H., Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link
I had similar thoughts/conclusions following what I read re: Wolff book
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
Feels like the outrageousness of a given claim about Trump is the metric by which its likely veracity should be measured. 'I am a campaign aide you've never heard of and I had an affair with President Trump' = not sure; 'I am a porn star who had an affair with President Trump, and also he told me I reminded him of his daughter' = ding ding ding
― the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link
(c) Dennis Stuff, of the Lincolnshire Stuffs
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link
I mean, it's almost the exact opposite metric you'd use wrt almost anyone else on earth, but he really is that fucking awful.
― the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:34 (six years ago) link
the In Touch interview is supposedly from 2011
― (the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link
it's all Enquirer-level reporting but it's amazing how all these stories form a consistent portrait of Trump that's held steady since at least the 80's. which is consistent with his public persona. Wolff himself expressed surprise at the book's success...he said he thought everyone knew this stuff already. like...the only 'revelation' here is that Trump is exactly the character he plays on TV
― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/michael-wolffs-fire-fury-become-tv-series-1075346
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link
kind of redundant
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link
a politico-spiritual successor to the human centipede
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link
In private conversations, Trump has told advisers that he doesn’t think the 2018 election has to be as bad as others are predicting. He has referenced the 2002 midterms, when George W. Bush and Republicans fared better after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, these people said.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/17/16893408/donald-trumps-2018-plan
everything is fine. he's definitely not thinking about exploiting a terrorist attack or taking the country to war for political gain.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link