US Politics January 2018: "You All Just Got A Lot Richer"

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a wall isn't a physical barrier so much as a state of mind, a way of living if you will

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:24 (six years ago) link

all alone, or in twos, the ones who really love, walk up and down outside the wall
some hand in hand, some gather together in bands -- the bleeding hearts and the artists make their stand
and when they've given their all some stagger and fall, after all, it's not easy
banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:28 (six years ago) link

I don’t get this tax thing, all these mega corporations paying all these taxes that affect their bottom lines. I though trump was a republican. Imagine the reaction if this happened under a Dem pres. what am I missing?

calstars, Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link

Too predictable. I like this one better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9yim3ZGuUc

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:39 (six years ago) link

what the fuck is up with the stock market, that's what I want to know.

the stock market might not be rational, but I think it might be kinda racist

(I’m only kind of joking)

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:18 (six years ago) link

It’s def not rational but at least some past bull markets were based on something more than positive republican daddy’s are in charge vibes

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:40 (six years ago) link

so the fake news thing on gop.com is up, and...it's actually worth a scroll just to see how absurdly amateur hour the whole thing. everything about it - not bothering to include any sources or links on a publication that is supposed to be about the truth, being composed of a top 11 list, the 11th item of which consists of another 10 sub-items, the kinds of things that they're choosing to highlight, the pure pettiness and pointlessness of most of the items on the list , the fact that the headline is "The Highly-Anticipated 2017 Fake News Awards".

this is #11:

11. And last, but not least: "RUSSIA COLLUSION!" Russian collusion is perhaps the greatest hoax perpetrated on the American people. THERE IS NO COLLUSION!

it's typed out like that. who wrote this? did trump write this? seriously, did trump write this, because if he didn't, who else could get away with writing that? is it odd to point out that it's sort of ...messageboard style?

but seriously, the whole page is worth a look. i don't usually save entire websites, but i am archiving this shit so that i can revisit it again when i'm old

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:22 (six years ago) link

What specifically should be sending the stock market lower? It's obviously overheated, but there isn't yet a great case that it should be done.

xxp

Moodles, Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:27 (six years ago) link

Also, remember all those tax cuts and loosened regulations?

Moodles, Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:28 (six years ago) link

oh so it's like those GOP surveys which are literally Colbert's "Great President...or Greatest President?" joke

frogbs, Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:28 (six years ago) link

what the fuck is up with the stock market, that's what I want to know.

Depressing to debate my cubemates on Trump's unsuitability, when the majority of them gleefully relate the rise in their retirement accounts. Money wins over humanitarian and environmental concerns.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:30 (six years ago) link

Flipside is that it won't last. Much of what is being undone now was put in place in response to the last crash, but we aren't quite to the point where people are just lighting money on fire yet.

Moodles, Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:34 (six years ago) link

My retirement account is doing well! Trump still sucks!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:47 (six years ago) link

this nyt piece on the 6 of the early democratic presidential frontrunners (booker, warren, harris, sanders, klobuchar, gillibrand) also tries to make a point about the peril of the senate democrats running in states that trump carried:

“The Democrats running in the 10 states that Donald Trump carried have all demonstrated an ability to get elected in Republican states, so they obviously have something going for them,” said Whit Ayres, a Republican strategist. “But having the Democratic Party veer further and further to the left makes their lives substantially more difficult.”

substantially more difficult...if not for the fact that their own constituents are also moving toward the left, on the whole. the "moderates", by clinging to what they thought was the center an election or two ago, are staking their position closer and closer to the conservative edge of the party.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 January 2018 04:00 (six years ago) link

Weird that the republican strategist would give democrats bad advice for winning.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 18 January 2018 05:44 (six years ago) link

yeah, but the sad part is that at least some of the 10 seem to be following their advice

Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 January 2018 06:05 (six years ago) link

Lol someone laughed at me when I called nyt a pro-trump paper a few weeks back

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 18 January 2018 08:07 (six years ago) link

Thank god the NYT *finally* gave the floor to Trump-supporters praising their Big Dumbass Leader...

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:19 (six years ago) link

long time coming, imo

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 January 2018 12:31 (six years ago) link

My retirement account contrib is 0.5%, burn it all down.

Coverage of the FNAs is so spotty! Should've gotten Ricky Gervais to host.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link

I tuned out after three hours.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link

We need the Wall for the safety and security of our country. We need the Wall to help stop the massive inflow of drugs from Mexico, now rated the number one most dangerous country in the world. If there is no Wall, there is no Deal!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 18, 2018

this racist piece of shit! Mexico is nowhere near the most dangerous country, it's a straight up lie . FUCK i hate this person

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link

Mexico is ranked 22nd on Global Peace Index's list of world's most dangerous countries for 2017. Top 10 perilous countries are Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, South Sudan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, Sudan, Central African Republic and Ukraine.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link

Can’t wait to book my next resort vacation in Syria

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link

The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, two sources familiar with the matter have told McClatchy.

FBI counterintelligence investigators have focused on the activities of Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank who is known for his close relationships with both Russian President Vladimir Putin and the NRA, the sources said.

It is illegal to use foreign money to influence federal elections.

It’s unclear how long the Torshin inquiry has been ongoing, but the news comes as Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s sweeping investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 election, including whether the Kremlin colluded with Trump’s campaign, has been heating up.

All of the sources spoke on condition of anonymity because Mueller’s investigation is confidential and mostly involves classified information.

A spokesman for Mueller’s office declined comment.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:42 (six years ago) link

The Wall is the Wall, it has never changed or evolved from the first day I conceived of it. Parts will be, of necessity, see through and it was never intended to be built in areas where there is natural protection such as mountains, wastelands or tough rivers or water.....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 18, 2018

Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:08 (six years ago) link

uh oh, Kelly in the shithouse

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:11 (six years ago) link

xp Good thing no illegal border crossings happen near water. Or wastelands.

godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link

self-xp countdown to "John Kelly was only an intern who brought us some coffee that one time" in 3, 2, 1

godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link

I'm of the opinion that we should give Trump his wall. A big, beautiful, unbreachable wall, twenty feet high and built in a three foot circle around where he's currently standing.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:16 (six years ago) link

uh oh, Kelly in the shithouse

i know, i know, it's really serious

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link

8~)

godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

The democrats should say ok “ok no wall unless it’s 100% see through” and see how that all shakes down.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link

"tough rivers or water"

does he mean tough water or any water, regardless of toughness

tobo73, Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:57 (six years ago) link

Trump upsets Republican strategy to avoid shutdown

President Trump blew up Republican strategies to keep the government open past Friday when on Thursday morning he said a long-term extension of the popular Children’s Health Insurance Program should not be part of a stopgap spending bill pending before the House.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
CHIP should be part of a long term solution, not a 30 Day, or short term, extension!
8:37 AM - Jan 18, 2018

With a possible government shutdown looming this weekend, the House had planned to vote late Thursday on a stopgap spending bill that would keep government funding flowing to Feb. 16 as delicate negotiations continue to protect young, undocumented immigrants brought illegally as children from deportation.

Republican leaders have spent the week pressuring Democrats to vote for the spending bill, arguing that opposing it would effectively block a six-year extension of the children’s health program, attached to the spending bill as a sweetener for lawmakers in both parties.

Speaker Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin said on Wednesday that it would be “unconscionable” for Democrats to oppose funding for the Children’s Health Insurance Program with a “no” vote on the short-term spending bill.

But Mr. Trump’s tweet appeared to give Democrats a ready excuse to oppose the measure: the president wants the health program severed from the spending bill.

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:59 (six years ago) link

LOL bizarro xpost

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:00 (six years ago) link

I'm amazed by the complexity of his negotiating tactics, just marvelous.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:01 (six years ago) link

wow

sleeve, Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:01 (six years ago) link

I guess that's... good news?

sleeve, Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:01 (six years ago) link

tough rivers or water

As we all know, illegal immigrants can't cross water, which is why they're called "drybacks."

godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:02 (six years ago) link

Parts will be, of necessity, see through

The emperor's new wall

Vinnie, Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:08 (six years ago) link

*pizza chef winking and kissing fingers*

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link

'see through'

...

'see through' ffs

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:13 (six years ago) link

If only there were a word that meant 'see through'.

Also, I wonder if he means that it will be just a transparent wall or like a literal forcefield. Maybe with laser turrets on top.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link

When you, a freshman, ask me, a sophomore, to explain Pink Floyd to you https://t.co/Fhc2RZGfSy

— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) January 18, 2018

dan selzer, Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link

I mean this is shit I thought about when I was playing with GI Joes at age 7 so it's presumably something he has involved opinions about.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:16 (six years ago) link

The democrats should say ok “ok no wall unless it’s 100% see through” and see how that all shakes down.

i really do think it could benefit the Dems if they'd stop all the priggish finger-wagging and performative outrage and just go straight up troll. hire a handful of pro comic twitter wits (who would prob do it for next to free) and just drag the absolute fuck out of Trump's gang of chuds & entire GOP. And not just on social media, I'm talking about full-bore Dem Party messaging. if nothing else it could be entertaining and might boost morale.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:16 (six years ago) link

I wonder if he means that it will be just a transparent wall or like a literal forcefield.

No, no, all Border Patrol agents will be replaced with mimes. They will patrol along the border, all the while making hand motions that indicate that there is an invisible wall present. SORTED. Hashtag MAGA.

godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link

(Indeed, you could even call it a MIME FIELD. You're welcome, America.)

godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link


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