All Right, Mr. DeMille, I'm Ready For My Close-Up ... It's The ILXOR's Top 101 Director Poll Results Thread

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The top ten was unimpeachable

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link

Yang and Ophuls are the choices you guys have made me curious about.

I really wish there were more overviews like Cousins tv version of Story Of Film (after which I bought 4 Parajanov films I admired more than enjoyed). I generally haven't liked the really cineastey directors enough to delve very far but I just know I'm missing something. Everyone is always missing lots but I'd like a better idea of what I'm missing and there's not a lot of opportunities unless you really dive in and it's not a high enough priority for me to do that (I'm trying to watch less films but I want the quality to be better).

Any youtube channels regularly discussing or excerpting this type of director would be great.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:24 (six years ago) link

rad thread eric enjoyed it bunches

renoir and ford placements pretty absurd and also imo wilder should not be here at all but rly surprised+delighted to see welles so high. love lots of the middle and later stuff. mr arkadin, chimes at midnight, the trial, f for fake, even that shoestring macbeth. (lady from shanghai not all that great to watch in my experience.) he's a strange kind of bridge between old hollywood and post60s indiedom, the same way he's a bridge between "high" and "low": the most shakespearean american filmmaker but also the most like p.t. barnum, always a showman, always (to his chagrin) a hustler. and so miserably #iconic in decline, cursing houseman.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:25 (six years ago) link

would love to see some kind of restoration of it's all true. have never seen the 1993 doc even.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link

orson would've been my no. 1, he's endlessly interesting and prob has at least five flat-out masterpieces to his name (which is a p good record when you've only completed about a dozen films). really even if he'd only directed the first half-hour of ambersons he'd prob deserve a place on the list.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:29 (six years ago) link

The Renoir ranking still uh rankles

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link

this poll finally made me pull the trigger on the hitch Blu-ray box

Simon H., Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:35 (six years ago) link

nice!! hope that includes Shadow of a Doubt

flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link

hitch is a good committee #1 because while he would never be mine, if someone asked me what a movie is i'd show them notorious

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:37 (six years ago) link

Shadow of a Doubt might be my 2nd favorite film ever. i posted a very high quality youtube rip upthread, last night i think, besides being so thematically rich and beguiling and full of great performances, there's something completely intoxicating about it that I've only encountered in a handful of films ever.

flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:37 (six years ago) link

No room, Sebastian.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:38 (six years ago) link

First-place vote getters that placed outside the top 101:

Roy Andersson (#110)
Vera Chytilova (#132)
George Miller (#138)

And, tied at #232:

Joe Dante
Harun Farocki
Shin'ya Tsukamoto
William Wellman

I was wrong about more first-place votes being outside the top 101 ... there were a reasonably high number of unranked ballots too, but more #1s did make it.

Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link

I like Notorious but I have a huge Cary Grant problem. Need to watch that one again, love for it is pretty intense everywhere.

flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link

joe cotton shoulda played more heels (also idiots, like my beloved holly)

not that his part in shadow's a straightforward heel.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link

I tried, George ;_;

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:41 (six years ago) link

I have a huge Cary Grant problem.

at least you know it's a problem

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:41 (six years ago) link

And here's the spreadsheet!

Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:44 (six years ago) link

@flappy, this is the set

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Alfred-Hitchcock-The-Masterpiece-Collection-Blu-ray/45102/

Simon H., Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:45 (six years ago) link

Theresa Wright's character & her performance... oh my god, I could go on and on. I love the way she's introduced with the same framing as Joe Cotten, in profile lying down in her bed. and that first conversation about her family... "we're stuck in a rut, we need something to shake us all up... it's been on my mind for months." and "how can you talk about money when I'm talking about souls?" and the conversation with the old woman at the telegram office... "Do you believe in telepathy, Mrs. Henderson? Mental telepathy!" hard stare... "I don't know what you'e talking about, I only send telegrams the normal way." then when she walks out grinning ear to ear: "he heard me, he heard me..."

flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:45 (six years ago) link

Wow that's a great box, Simon. wasn't the one I was thinking of. yeah, that's just a phenomenal group of films. and I still haven't seen 3 of them- Torn Curtain, Topaz, Family Plot...

flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link

I have a huge Cary Grant problem.

at least you know it's a problem

― difficult listening hour, Friday, January 19, 2018 7:41 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha ha ha well i have to keep trying, i have no choice, dude was in so many great movies and worked with so many great filmmakers...

flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link

one more thing about Shadow of a Doubt- the shots of ballroom dancing that roll under the credits... and recur in superimposition at the end of the film... left me completely speechless

flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:49 (six years ago) link

also i am disappointed in my Multiplex Gang for allowing such a NERDY top 10 to happen

<3

tho i’m sure Morbs is still miserable because well, Morbs

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:52 (six years ago) link

the shots of ballroom dancing that roll under the credits... and recur in superimposition at the end of the film... left me completely speechless

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FriendlyVillainousHomalocephale-max-1mb.gif

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 January 2018 01:00 (six years ago) link

^ that is my favorite opening to a movie ever

flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 01:01 (six years ago) link

yet I have a huge Shadow of a Doubt problem, so flappy bird and I are even

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 01:03 (six years ago) link

Brakhage was 1,5 points from being in the list :(

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 20 January 2018 01:05 (six years ago) link

-- Very surprised I was the only #1 Tarkovsky vote
-- Wish I'd voted Seijun Suzuki higher -- however high it would have taken to get him in the 100

Just watched El by Bunuel after perusing this thread. Looks like Hitchcock did the same before making Vertigo.

29 facepalms, Saturday, 20 January 2018 01:12 (six years ago) link

OK, even if I'd voted him #1 Seijun wouldn't have made the cut. Sorry Seijun. Kanpai!

http://cinedivergente.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/1963-Detective-Bureau-2-3-Go-to-Hell-Bastards-Seijun-Suzuki.jpg

I'm sure Hitch would love to have directed a film in which a protagonist dreams of sewing a vagina shut.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 01:31 (six years ago) link

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Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 20 January 2018 02:01 (six years ago) link

j/k

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 20 January 2018 02:02 (six years ago) link

it's what the protag of El is about to do

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 02:23 (six years ago) link

Wouldn't put it past Jimmy Stewart tbh

29 facepalms, Saturday, 20 January 2018 02:33 (six years ago) link

YOU WERE A VERY APT PUPIL

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 02:38 (six years ago) link

The gentleman certainly knows what he wants

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 20 January 2018 02:54 (six years ago) link

judy, it can't matter to you.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 January 2018 02:57 (six years ago) link

shout to the (1) other person who voted for claude chabrol

johnny crunch, Saturday, 20 January 2018 03:12 (six years ago) link

One of those juicy steaks from Ernie's.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 03:17 (six years ago) link

Why? Women can be auteurs. (Akerman, Denis.)

Not in the English-speaking commercial cinema they can't be, pretty much. (Let's not go to Nora Ephron et al.)

Lynch's presence in the top 10 is, of course, ridiculous. Geeks.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 January 2018 03:54 (six years ago) link

1. Alfred Hitchcock (2399.5 points; 28 votes; 2 first-place votes)
2. Orson Welles (1957 points; 24 votes)
3. Stanley Kubrick (1920 points; 21 votes; 4 first-place votes)
4. Andrei Tarkovsky (1881.5 points; 22 votes; 1 first-place vote)
5. David Lynch (1838 points; 21 votes; 1 first-place vote)
6. Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger (1826 points; 23 votes; 1 first-place vote)
7. Rainer Werner Fassbinder (1812.5 points; 22 votes)
8. Ingmar Bergman (1666 points; 20 votes)
9. Luis Buñuel (1662 points; 20 votes; 1 first-place vote)
10. Kurosawa Akira (1661 points; 21 votes; 1 first-place vote)
11. Jean-Luc Godard (1647.5 points; 20 votes; 1 first-place vote)
12. Robert Altman (1546 points; 19 votes)
13. Martin Scorsese (1533.5 points; 20 votes; 1 first-place vote)
14. Ozu Yasujirō (1453.5 points; 17 votes)
15. Jean Renoir (1447.5 points; 17 votes; 1 first-place vote)
16. Fritz Lang (1438 points; 18 votes)
17. Michelangelo Antonioni (1426.5 points; 19 votes)
18. Billy Wilder (1392 points; 18 votes)
19. F.W. Murnau (1352 points; 17 votes)
20. Robert Bresson (1298 points; 15 votes; 2 first-place votes)
21. Chantal Akerman (1289.5 points; 16 votes; 1 first-place vote)
22. David Cronenberg (1277.5 points; 17 votes)
23. Carl Theodor Dreyer (1232.5 points; 16 votes)
24. Abbas Kiarostami (1224 points; 15 votes; 1 first-place vote)
25. Agnès Varda (1218 points; 16 votes)
26. Joel & Ethan Coen (1211.5 points; 15 votes)
27. Werner Herzog (1113 points; 14 votes; 3 first-place votes)
28. Howard Hawks (1071.5 points; 13 votes)
29. Alain Resnais (1052 points; 15 votes)
30. Paul Thomas Anderson (998.5 points; 13 votes)
31. Federico Fellini (957.5 points; 12 votes)
32. Nicholas Ray (952.5 points; 13 votes)
33. Roman Polanski (902.5 points; 12 votes)
34. Terrence Malick (872 points; 11 votes)
35. Satyajit Ray (834.5 points; 11 votes)
36. Francis Ford Coppola (830 points; 11 votes)
37. Mike Leigh (827 points; 11 votes)
38. Steven Spielberg (824.5 points; 11 votes)
39. Eric Rohmer (808 points; 10 votes)
40. Wong Kar-wai (799 points; 11 votes)
41. Nicholas Roeg (783.5 points; 10 votes)
42. Chris Marker (775 points; 10 votes; 1 first-place vote)
43. Jacques Tati (771.5 points; 10 votes)
44. Mizoguchi Kenji (747.5 points; 10 votes)
45. Michael Haneke (726 points; 10 votes)
46. Preston Sturges (724.5 points; 9 votes)
47. John Ford (704 points; 9 votes)
48. Quentin Tarantino (633 points; 9 votes)
49. Miyazaki Hayao (631 points; 8 votes)
50. Apichatpong Weerasethakul (629.5 points; 9 votes)
51. George A. Romero (628 points; 9 votes)
52. Zhangke Jia (627.5 points; 8 votes)
53. Carol Reed (607.5 points; 8 votes)
54. Max Ophüls (600 points; 8 votes)
55. Maya Deren (598.5 points; 8 votes)
56. Béla Tarr (594.5 points; 8 votes)
57. Edward Yang (589.5 points; 8 votes; 1 first-place vote)
58. Otto Preminger (584 points; 8 votes)
59. Dario Argento (577.5 points; 7 votes)
60. John Carpenter (570.5 points; 8 votes)
61. (tie) Pier Paolo Pasolini (555 points; 7 votes)
61. (tie) Roberto Rossellini (555 points; 7 votes)
63. (tie) Hou Hsiao-hsien (554 points; 7 votes)
63. (tie) Buster Keaton (554 points; 7 votes)
65. Douglas Sirk (553.5 points; 7 votes)
66. Ernst Lubitsch (539 points; 6 votes)
67. François Truffaut (526.5 points; 7 votes)
68. John Waters (514 points; 7 votes)
69. Frederick Wiseman (513.5 points; 6 votes; 1 first-place vote)
70. Jacques Rivette (504 points; 6 votes)
71. Charles Chaplin (502.5 points; 7 votes)
72. Alejandro Jodorowsky (500 points; 7 votes)
73. Richard Linklater (495.5 points; 7 votes)
74. Sergei Eisenstein (489 points; 7 votes)
75. Krzysztof Kieślowski (487.5 points; 7 votes)
76. Aki Kaurismäki (480 points; 7 votes)
77. Sidney Lumet (479.5 points; 6 votes)
78. John Cassavetes (477.5 points; 6 votes)
79. Jan Švankmajer (466.5 points; 7 votes)
80. Spike Lee (466 points; 6 votes)
81. Jean-Pierre Melville (459.5 points; 7 votes)
82. Sergio Leone (453 points; 6 votes)
83. Kelly Reichart (446 points; 6 votes)
84. Peter Watkins (441.5 points; 6 votes)
85. Brian De Palma (440 points; 5 votes)
86. Ousmane Sembène (435.5 points; 6 votes)
87. Frank Capra (431.5 points; 6 votes)
88. Jean Cocteau (421 points; 6 votes)
89. Chuck Jones (416 points; 6 votes)
90. Jean Vigo (414 points; 6 votes)
91. Paul Verhoeven (403 points; 6 votes)
92. (tie) Pedro Almodóvar (401 points; 5 votes)
92. (tie) G.W. Pabst (401 points; 5 votes)
94. Olivier Assayas (400.5 points; 6 votes)
95. Jim Jarmusch (394 points; 6 votes)
96. Sergei Parajanov (385 points; 5 votes)
97. Woody Allen (375.5 points; 5 votes)
98. Robert Aldrich (370 points; 5 votes)
99. Claire Denis (367.5 points; 5 votes)
100. Jonathan Demme (366 points; 5 votes)
101. D.W. Griffith (365.5 points; 5 votes)

Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 January 2018 03:57 (six years ago) link

Just realize I hadn't done that.

Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 January 2018 03:57 (six years ago) link

I ain't opening no spreadsheet, just tell me how many perceptive souls voted for Visconti.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 January 2018 03:59 (six years ago) link

hi!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 04:01 (six years ago) link

I did too

Dan S, Saturday, 20 January 2018 04:09 (six years ago) link

Enjoyed the poll--some great images. Not that it matters, but I definitely didn't vote for Argento (I've seen all of one film). Probably someone else's vote got assigned to me.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 January 2018 04:31 (six years ago) link

Haneke placing but not von Trier makes me a bit sad

Simon H., Saturday, 20 January 2018 05:24 (six years ago) link

Shocked that Powell & Pressburger placed so high

flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 05:37 (six years ago) link


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