Is it worth it to get a DACA deal if they throw in all sorts of other poison pill anti-immigration stuff, including a wall?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:33 (six years ago) link
Because that's part of the impasse right?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
Which is bad for them, and I feel terrible for any federal employee living paycheck to paycheck (if they exist).
Hi! :)
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:41 (six years ago) link
The hard rock the democrats are up against is that the Republicans control the House the Senate, and the Presidency. The Dems have some leverage in the Senate due to the rules there, but getting concessions means making concessions, too.
The wall is expensive, but by itself it probably won't do much good or harm either way, other than its wretched symbolism and the waste of money. So, if it secures the futures of 700,000 young people and provides a path to citizenship, it would be well worth it from my perspective.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
I thought the Dem strategy was sposed to be OBSTRUCT
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:49 (six years ago) link
My understanding is that the wall was the least of it. There are also other immigration curbs and further Healthcare cuts that were in the house bill right?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link
So an immigration deal needs to simultaneously win 1.) Schumer & Durbin's votes 2.) John Kelly & Stephen Miller's recommendation to Trump to endorse it. 3.) Paul Ryan's commitment to a House vote even if it splits the majority. Hmmm.— Susan Davis (@DaviSusan) January 20, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:06 (six years ago) link
Where's Reince Priebus when you need him
― Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link
The post piece about the last couple of weeks is nuts. Apologies if already posted.https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/negotiating-with-jell-o-how-trumps-shifting-positions-fueled-the-rush-to-a-shutdown/2018/01/20/81215b90-fd71-11e7-a46b-a3614530bd87_story.html
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link
Sen. John Neely Kennedy (R-La.), speaking to reporters Friday night about his general frustrations with the process, said that “our country was founded by geniuses, but it’s being run by idiots.”
Next Month's Title?
― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link
lol
In politics, he resembles at times an amateur jazz musician — moody and improvisational, but without the technical chops to hold a piece together.
― mookieproof, Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link
Birth Of The Tool
― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:51 (six years ago) link
Ha.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:53 (six years ago) link
Dingus Ah Um
― Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:54 (six years ago) link
A Taco Supreme
― Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
Tyrant Steps
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
So is dummy going to Florida for his fundraiser/self-celebration? It would be horrible optics to do so, which makes me think he will do it.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link
we can only hope so
― Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link
The wall is expensive, but by itself it probably won't do much good or harm either way, other than its wretched symbolism and the waste of money. So, if it secures the futures of 700,000 young people and provides a path to citizenship, it would be well worth it from my perspective.Building it, and then tearing it down in 2021, would be a reasonable approximation of Keynes’ “burying banknotes and then digging them up” bit from General Theory.I’m not opposed to going with that as a jobs program tbf
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link
Someone should refocus Trump on building a ladder to the moon.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:03 (six years ago) link
or blowing it up
― maura, Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Csj7vMKy4EI
alternately Dingus Dingus Dingus Dingus Dingus
many xposts
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link
what a time to work for a government contractor (as I do)
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:07 (six years ago) link
LIFE IS WINNING
― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:13 (six years ago) link
― Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII)
why so sick and ridiculous?
― Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:18 (six years ago) link
!!@SenDuckworth: "I will not be lectured about what our military needs by a five-deferment draft-dodger. And I have a message for cadet bone spurs: If you cared about our military, you'd stop baiting Kim Jong-Un into a war that could put 85,000 American troops .. in danger." pic.twitter.com/BBXVna819m— JM Rieger (@RiegerReport) January 20, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link
oof
― Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:21 (six years ago) link
good on her. now she'll get her own nickname from our president.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:25 (six years ago) link
TAMMY
― mookieproof, Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:26 (six years ago) link
yesss
― maura, Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link
"draft dodger" still has a 1971 hardhat whiff to me. I like draft dodgers.
The phrase for Yam (and so many other war-promoting coddled cowards) is "chicken hawk."
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link
JM Rieger shd've at least properly capped "Cadet Bone Spurs"
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link
he resembles at times an amateur jazz musician
I know the moment has passed, but... Cantaloupe Lie-land?
― godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:44 (six years ago) link
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius)
can't do it. can't use "chicken hawk" to refer to anybody other than an old creep with a taste for the barely legal. i should get with the times i suppose...
― Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link
I think Lt. Colonel Duckworth gets to use "draft dodger" as a pejorative
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:17 (six years ago) link
By far the most surprising guest here at the @Cernovich event: Chelsea Manning!— Charlie Warzel (@cwarzel) January 21, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:30 (six years ago) link
"draft dodger" still has a 1971 hardhat whiff to me. I like draft dodgers.The phrase for Yam (and so many other war-promoting coddled cowards) is "chicken hawk."
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:41 (six years ago) link
Morbs real otm here. stop using their shit brand framing
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 21 January 2018 02:42 (six years ago) link
I agree but in context they're clearly using the GOP's own bullshit pejorative labels against them.
Obv conscription is gross and shaming those who avoid it is worse....
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 January 2018 02:48 (six years ago) link
sure and I’m not knocking Duckworth, who’s (generally) pretty rad (other than fisa) and who better to take the shot. I’m talking more generally. Like the ‘resistance’ prob shouldn’t make a whole lot of noise about draft dodgers.
chicken hawks otoh. no one but lobbyists like those
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 21 January 2018 03:00 (six years ago) link
*shot?
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 21 January 2018 03:02 (six years ago) link
yeah we need a better/richer language here. i dig draft dodgers in the fuck-this-war-i'm-going-in-hiding sense. vietnam was bullshit - dodge away. but the specific thing of "i used my wealth and connections to get myself out of harm's way while letting the draft, and war, hum murderously along for others" is worth calling out. trump's record here is pathetic of course. but "chicken hawk" doesn't capture why either, plus no one knows what it means. i think duckworth could have just said "...from a rich kid who stayed out of vietnam by having his daddy's hired doctor make up phony medical excuses, while the kids of the people who rented apartments in his daddy's buildings had no such option" .... or some pithier version thereof.
― Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 21 January 2018 03:10 (six years ago) link
yeah “chickenhawk” a misnomer in this instance.
but ppl should know what means and the GOP should absolutely be synonymous with it
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 21 January 2018 03:16 (six years ago) link
Chelsea was ostensibly there to "crash it" but bb you gotta do more than show up and get seen at a white supremacist's party if yr gonna call it crashing
God her ad is so bad, all signifiers aimed at people who think voting doesn't do anything
I want better things for her than this
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 21 January 2018 03:28 (six years ago) link
probably a better option than "draft dodger" or "chicken hawk": "shithead"
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 21 January 2018 03:57 (six years ago) link
Meantime
oh my god https://t.co/uudoz4Z6Ps pic.twitter.com/2YgXIVqdaO— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) January 21, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 January 2018 04:23 (six years ago) link
When I find myself in full agreement with Morbius, consecutively over a series of days, that’s a fucking sign.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, January 20, 2018 5:41 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sigh, tying the knot. finally. looking for rsvp.
― barreras, Sunday, 21 January 2018 04:40 (six years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/Vl3Q2ucHQz— Alex Nichols (@Lowenaffchen) January 21, 2018
― Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Sunday, 21 January 2018 04:46 (six years ago) link
That's an adorable dog. I refuse to see what's in the rest of the picture, tho.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 21 January 2018 05:06 (six years ago) link