Why are there far fewer advocates for popism/poptimism related to art forms OTHER than music?

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Poetry rockism: http://www.pnreview.co.uk/cgi-bin/scribe?item_id=10090 - the terms of this argument are more or less identical to ye olde rockism-about-rock.

The controversy sparked (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jan/23/poetry-world-split-over-polemic-attacking-amateur-work-by-young-female-poets ) suggests poetry anti-poetyrockism is nascent, or at least possible.

Tim, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link

Unfortunately the Poetry world is always full of this “THis is not real poetry” shit. I remember when political poetry wasn’t real poetry, or performance poetry wasn’t real poetry or LANGUAGE poetry wasn’t real poetry or basically anything that was not to the taste of the editors of the twenty or so highest profile journals wasn’t real poetry (this used to include most poetry by POC.) I’m not sure why different genres of writing can’t be allowed to co-exist—like, are Dance music writers always issuing denunciations of Metal?

Protecting standards used to be a big deal in academic writing programs. I remember a fiction professor on the first day of class handing out an essay he had written explaining what was literary fiction and what was genre fiction and why the latter was inferior. He compared Moby Dick and Jaws because they were both about sea creatures.

President Keyes, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

cross-ref w/ literary clusterfucks thread

imago, Friday, 15 November 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link

just read the links on the pre-bump revive. i mean the poetry she's critiquing is properly ghastly tbh

imago, Friday, 15 November 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

I'm afraid many "clever, insightful" critics tend to be big fans of shaming the unwashed masses. I said fuck it a long time ago and got a subscription to Entertainment Weekly.

― Darin, Thursday, July 3, 2014 3:04 PM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

thread honestly should have been over here, this is the undercurrent of so much discourse that purports to be about something more elevated than this

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 16 November 2019 06:42 (four years ago) link

https://giphy.com/media/94EQmVHkveNck/200.webp

pomenitul, Saturday, 16 November 2019 11:11 (four years ago) link

Lemme try that again:

http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/94EQmVHkveNck/giphy.gif

pomenitul, Saturday, 16 November 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link


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