US Politics January 2018: "You All Just Got A Lot Richer"

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President Stick in 2020

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link

Collins/Rainbow Dildo '20

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:34 (six years ago) link

i'm beginning to understand why schumer did what he did. whenever i'm in the room with a talking stick i just do whatever i can to get out of there as quickly as possible

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link

especially when Susan Collins approaches you with her Maine smile and her glowing stick

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link

In Oregon, we passed a healthcare funding ballot measure that never should have been a ballot issue. The rep who spearheaded the campaign is a shithead republican from West Linn. The NYT wants to interview Trump voters? Head to the wealthy suburbs of any city, Portland or no.

https://splinternews.com/three-oregon-republicans-tried-to-blow-up-medicaid-it-1822351473

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

I've said it before, drive an hour outside of most cities and you might as well be in Texas.

Re: Mueller, there are several overlapping investigations going on at once. There's Russian collusion, there is Russian interference, there is obstruction of justice (re: Russia), there is financial malfeasance and crimes of his underlings (often related to Russia or Russian interests), and then there is financial malfeasance and crimes of Trump himself and Trump Inc. It's hard to say how close we are to "the end" since there are multiple ends, and just as Gates and Manafort may be charged with more, it's possible one of these investigations may "end" but the parties involved may still be in the crosshairs for other stuff.

Compare this to Ken Starr, fwiw, whose investigations were almost wholly unrelated: Whitewater, Lewinsky, Travelgate (how quaint!).

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link

republicans are basically traitors at this point

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:44 (six years ago) link

I've said it before, drive an hour outside of most cities and you might as well be in Texas.

of the 25 million people in texas, 22 million live in cities

get out more

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:57 (six years ago) link

i think he was just referring to redness of TX

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link

yeah smoke some sherm

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link

(that's not political just advice)

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link

do people still smoke sherm ? that's was some wild shit let me tell ya

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:02 (six years ago) link

Worked so well in Lord of the Flies (re: talking stick).

nickn, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:03 (six years ago) link

i understand the shorthand and the logic behind it, i'm just tired of the gerrymandered map standing in for people doing any kind of critical fucking thinking about the place

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:03 (six years ago) link

but listen where that sherm at

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:04 (six years ago) link

in TX iirc

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:05 (six years ago) link

in terms of fraction of vote for trump in 2016, texas came 20th. it's not a useful shorthand for "very red state".

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link

i could stand to keep a running list of my soft spots, sorry josh

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link

of the 25 million people in texas, 22 million live in cities

The vast majority of Americans live in cities (aka the popular vote). My point is that the huge relatively unpopulated swaths of the country that are not cities are pretty deep red, whether in Texas, or Illinois, or probably even California.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link

And by "deep red" I mean represented by Republicans.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

point taken

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

probably even California they don't have places with nicknames like Fountucky for nothing

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link

Thus giving the lie just the distinction of “blue state”/“red state.” We hardwired to favor mental shortcuts & shorthand, yeah, but we go about it in the laziest, dumbest fucking ways.

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link

all i'm getting at is the purported redness of texas (and by extension much of the middle of the country) if you go by the strength of GOP support

https://i.imgur.com/d5YX88g.png

gets a lot fuzzier if you look at people instead of percentages

https://i.imgur.com/jrBO6hB.png

xp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:25 (six years ago) link

I saw a guy wearing one of these shirts at a small town 4th of july parade this summer and my first thought was "you are terrible at math"

https://img0.etsystatic.com/154/0/5776975/il_570xN.1092565306_hudv.jpg

joygoat, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link

the desolate wasteland that is trump country

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:04 (six years ago) link

HOOS, I share your sensitivity re: TX. I think changes are coming to the political landscape here sooner than some might expect.

Moodles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:15 (six years ago) link

maybe this country needs to be screwed and chopped
all hail west texas

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link

instantrapairhorn.com

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link

xpost I agree, but like NC and, say, Oregon per right above, it's going to be a struggle against red headwinds. Court decisions have been promising re gerrymandering.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link

BREAKING: President Donald Trump says he's "looking forward" to being interviewed by special counsel Robert Mueller.

— The Associated Press (@AP) January 24, 2018

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:54 (six years ago) link

lol

j., Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link

Finally, something we agree on!

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:56 (six years ago) link

Even the "BREAKING" part?

MarkoP, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:03 (six years ago) link

Yes, I do agree that President Trump is BREAKING (which doesn't undermine the fact that he's already deeply BROKEN).

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link

i expect a full and speedy exoneration of president trump and rexxon tillerson + the prosperity from the ryan/mcconnell tax cuts to trickle down upon us all

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:11 (six years ago) link

I predict he will not speak to Mueller.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:11 (six years ago) link

Meanwhile, this psycho weirdo Pennsylvania congressman ...

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link

Gonna need a transcript of Trump's statement re Mueller. If it includes the phrases "believe me" or "a lot of people are saying," it's bullshit. If, however, he said "no collusion" at least five times in the course of no more than three sentences, it's probably gonna happen and I can't wait.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:14 (six years ago) link

He said he would take the advice of his lawyers into account. Which means he probably won't.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:16 (six years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-he-would-speak-to-mueller-under-oath-in-russia-investigation/2018/01/24/edb33750-015a-11e8-8acf-ad2991367d9d_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_no-name%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar&utm_term=.da8be52e9630

“I would love to do it, and I would like to do it as soon as possible,” Trump said at the White House. “I would do it under oath, absolutely.”

The president suggested he was being investigated for obstruction of justice as part of the Russia investigation because he was “fighting back” and again reiterated there was “no collusion” between his campaign and Moscow.

“Oh well, did he fight back?” Trump said, “You fight back, oh, it’s obstruction.”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link

if you fight back with corrupt intent then yes its obstruction you fucking baby

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:38 (six years ago) link

He and his family are going to get away with all of this.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link

Why does everyone treat me like I'm the bad guy here because I burned my neighbor's house down? He gave me a weird look and I fought back. It's what you do.

I 'love' when people adopt a matter of fact tone when attempting to explain away their sociopathy. He truly does not understand any of the worlds he inhabits.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link

his colossal stupidity will be his undoing. demanding to testify under oath (which isnt even necessary) to one up hillary and light himself on fire is all time stupid.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 25 January 2018 00:26 (six years ago) link

he assumes he can buy off the judge, because that's always worked in every other situation

he assumes he can buy off anybody

El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:04 (six years ago) link

I want to encourage his assumptions. Go for it, Mr. President! Show those busybodies who's boss!

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link

Trump's entire experience with the legal system would lead him to believe that the outcome can always be fixed up to do him little or no harm. He has been engaged in dozens of civil suits, been investigated by the government before, declared bankruptcy more than once, and always come out essentially unscathed. He's never had to cope with something like a special prosecutor as capable, well-equipped, and deeply staffed as Mueller, with no limit on his funding or his scope. He should be treating this like his worst nightmare come true. He clearly hasn't a clue.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:17 (six years ago) link

He and his family are going to get away with all of this.

I don't think I understand your sentiment here unless "all of this" is a fairly limited set of things - like the profits from sending himself to his own properties all the time are probably going to be impossible to take back - and "get away with" amounts to "die in infamy despised by everyone except the same category of hateful, addled derelicts that complained at their family dinners back in 70 AD that Nero never got a fair go."

El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:23 (six years ago) link


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