Stupid:https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/schumers-to-do-list-fix-daca-win-the-senate-manage-trump/2018/01/28/2d0ba4ea-02a6-11e8-9d31-d72cf78dbeee_story.html?__twitter_impression=true
― Frederik B, Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:18 (six years ago) link
So Kurtz wasn't being a sock. He was quoting and apparently has not heard of retweeting or quotation marks.
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:36 (six years ago) link
Paywalled, what's the gist of the WaPo piece?
― Simon H., Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:39 (six years ago) link
Skimmed, but ... DACA fails, Republicans get blamed, giving cover to red state Dems to toe away from immigration, helping them get reelected while Chuck works on snagging 2 seats and defending 10 others?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 January 2018 00:09 (six years ago) link
infinity chess!
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 00:15 (six years ago) link
Pretty much, yeah. Also, moderate Dems successfully pressured to end the shutdown, which means there was no strategy at all going into it.
― Frederik B, Monday, 29 January 2018 00:17 (six years ago) link
Oh, and Schumer thinks 'economic populism' means saying 'no WE'RE the ones working for the middle class'
― Frederik B, Monday, 29 January 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link
One suspicion is that ending the shutdown was what Manchin demanded to run again. He was ready to retire.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 January 2018 00:32 (six years ago) link
Are the Democrats making themselves a remotely attractive Opposition at the moment.I keep hearing things taht sound like mishandling and wondering if that is going to counter a swing back to sanity come the mid terms.
― Stevolende, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:47 (six years ago) link
good mourning!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 January 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link
where's the tax returns?
http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article125859554.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 29 January 2018 13:16 (six years ago) link
Reading a different reported story, it sounds like the Dems (and some GOP) want DACA separate so that it can get passed away from all the poison pill limits to legal migration, and in return they'd tack some border/wall money into the budget. That keeps Trump from scuttling discussions with hardline immigration demands, punting it to a future debate, which gives cover to Dems running in more conservative districts. That doesn't seem like a terrible strategy. The longer they delay the elective stuff, the closer we get to elections, when in theory the entire balance may change.
Regardless, Trump will fuck it up, whether or not he finally becomes presidential tomorrow. Because he will always be a piece of shit.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:42 (six years ago) link
It's not a horrible strategy, but I can't see it working without the threat of another shutdown.
― Frederik B, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link
I for one am ready for a rush of idiot journalists to tell us how "encouraged" we should be by a teleprompter SOTU that only includes a few references to genocide
― frogbs, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link
good piece from Jeet on how the global elite are perfectly fine (or better) with Trumphttps://newrepublic.com/article/146797/davos-trump-became-leader-global-1-can-learn-love
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 13:57 (six years ago) link
“A year later, many of the business and political elites remain dismissive of him, privately rolling eyes and using words like ‘madman,’ but there was excitement about economic growth, and the tax cuts and regulatory rollback he has ushered in,” the Times added.
cor it's almost like business and political elites are amoral monsters bent on profit at the detriment of literally everything else
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:00 (six years ago) link
it's almost like trump is part and parcel w/ a monstrous set of phenomena more than he is a gross outlier!
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 14:05 (six years ago) link
Yeah, business-centric articles about Davos have been pretty pro-Trump. Again, the feeling being that the bar is so very, very low that they're relieved that he didn't once smear his own feces on anything or anyone.
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:07 (six years ago) link
The bar is low for anyone with the keys to capital.
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 14:10 (six years ago) link
Like, you shouldn't be impressed that the dipshit who carelessly threatened to start a nuclear war didn't actually start a nuclear war (yet). It's like I threatened to murder your whole family but you can't help but admire the restraint I showed in only stealing your identity and bankrupting you.
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:11 (six years ago) link
otm, and trump's few accomplishments so far have all worked to put more capital in the hands of those who already have too much of it
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link
Which really adds a tragicomic air to the efforts by that one Davos protestor.
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 14:18 (six years ago) link
When I see 'Davos' I often briefly confuse it with 'Davros' and 'DeVos' but it's all the same thing in the end, really.
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link
And of course this is already a thing. Of course it is.
https://i.redd.it/e4aosqy18ofy.jpg
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:23 (six years ago) link
can we not bring "bars" into the conversation plz
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, January 29, 2018 8:42 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It sounds like this strategy still relies on the GOP keeping its word (which at this point is foolish to expect) or yeah, another shutdown. If the Dems help the Republicans pass a budget first with the understanding that they'd pass DACA afterwards, I'm sorry, but that check's probably not getting cashed. If the Dems demand gets done BEFORE the budget then that just sets us up for another shutdown, right? Ideally, the Dems could say "You guys want wall money then let's put that in a separate bill with DACA after the budget's done and we'll pass it" but I assume the border funding has to be in the appropriations bill.
― evol j, Monday, 29 January 2018 14:26 (six years ago) link
“There is a cooling, and there’s a heating" is a very Jerry Lewis-like sentence structure.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link
first the chill --then the stuporthen the letting go
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link
brb gonna start a crematorium and promote it with the slogan 'there is a cooling, and there’s a heating'
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:58 (six years ago) link
Release the mem--wait, hold on, NO:
Trump's own deputy attorney general thinks Carter Page might be a Russian agent: https://t.co/5lzoapEg1y pic.twitter.com/B7XHef2Osn— Michael Weiss (@michaeldweiss) January 29, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:01 (six years ago) link
It is a pretty leaden time tbh xp
― Hunt3r, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link
"There is a Cooling, and There is a Heating" is my favorite episode of The Return.
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link
https://nypost.com/2018/01/28/trump-admits-that-he-tweets-from-bed/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=twitter_app
― j., Monday, 29 January 2018 15:08 (six years ago) link
Alert me when he finally confesses he tweets from the can.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:09 (six years ago) link
oh he tweets from his can alright
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link
There’s no way Carter Page is a Russian agent. No country would put someone so stupid in a position of power like that...oh wait
― Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link
tbh there's every possibility that carter page is such a colossal bumblefuck that he's managed to accidentally pledge allegiance to numerous foreign powers without realising it
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link
the zero mostel of international espionage
― Ned Raggett, Monday, January 29, 2018 1
Doesn't everyone!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link
prince alfred from a can
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link
i forgot to give Alfred his DSA membership form when I saw him the other night
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link
I'm sure the Guggenheim thought they were insulting him, but I think Trump might've been genuinely touched that they opted to send him a new gilded tweeting throne rather than some dumb dusty painting by a no-name has-been.
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:51 (six years ago) link
Face it, he tweets and shits in the bed. EXECUTIVE TIME.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:52 (six years ago) link
evacuative time
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link
Donald "John" Trump
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 29 January 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
too late, every time somebody mentions the president i have a pavlovian desire to visit one
― Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Monday, 29 January 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link
even if the president of the united states blows off today's sanctions deadline, i'll blame hillary / obama / the deep state
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/28/trump-russia-sanctions-deadline-373106
#MRGA
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 29 January 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link
As the PRESIDENT I have the authority to tweet from ANY place and believe me I do. The Oval Office, the Executive Washroom, Air Force One, I can Make America Great Again from anywhere. Jobs!
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link
God help us all, butDonnie 3-flush
― Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link
Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen is retiring. There's been a Frelinghuysen in NJ politics since before there was a NJ, basically. This is BIG. (Also, he's the chairman of the House Appropriations Committee.)
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 29 January 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link