While Congressional inaction is indeed a bad thing, keep in mind that dozens of congressmen and senators and investigators are privy to all sorts of stuff, so nothing is going to get buried if it is truly incriminating.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 January 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link
ME: We need a political party that will stand for universal health care, free housing, and an end to the carceral stateDEMOCRATS: What about a Kennedy that looks like Ron Weasley— Gore Vidal Sassoon (@JimmyJazz1968) January 29, 2018
The name Kennedy is triggering Berniecrats & the Left Why?— Poll Cat (@gato_danger) January 29, 2018
I'm opposed to any political dynasty. It's just a cult of personality and ignores policy goals— Gore Vidal Sassoon (@JimmyJazz1968) January 29, 2018
― Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Monday, 29 January 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link
xp but Josh this isn't inaction, it's a deliberate, proactive effort to reach into DOJ and FBI and disrupt a criminal investigation. (I stopped counting on the congressional committees to do anything a long time ago.)
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 29 January 2018 23:50 (six years ago) link
xpost These people would have pushed FDR out of the party.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 29 January 2018 23:54 (six years ago) link
I've kinda just given up hope at this point cos if this O'Keefian power play works on the general population, idk if I'll still be living here in 5 years anyway.
when things I thought weren't going to be happening anytime soon like legalizing gay marriage came to fruition, I thought to myself "oh we'll get blowback for this I'm sure", didn't realize it would be being held hostage by a 30 million strong pseudo-Christian cult.
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Monday, 29 January 2018 23:59 (six years ago) link
Hey Mr President don’t do this please
John Bolton Remains Leading Candidate to Replace H. R. McMaster, my latest in @TheNatlInterest https://t.co/GJxgoMhRKu— Curt Mills (@CurtMills) January 29, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link
swimming in an inner orbit, eh
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 00:15 (six years ago) link
I feel like this memo bullshit s a new level of fucked up. But I can only assume it’s going to get so much worse.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:03 (six years ago) link
I’m assuming the minority memo will be leaked
― the late great, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:16 (six years ago) link
i can't for the life of me figure out why i'm supposed to care about this memo one way or the other
like i get that it's being played up as vindication for right wing fever dreams but what's the corollary will im not really following
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:35 (six years ago) link
"This memo is going to be a bunch of scary-sounding allegations that can't be debunked without leaking classified information. Fox News will run with it, Trump will fire Rosenstein, whoever replaces Rosenstein will fire Mueller (or, worse, will quietly kill/neuter Mueller's investigation), and the GOP will do nothing. And all the Dems will be able to do is complain about how they can't release the full story."
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:49 (six years ago) link
Whomp whomp
https://www.thedailybeast.com/julian-assange-thought-he-was-messaging-sean-hannity-when-he-offered-news-on-democrat-investigating-trump-russia/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:55 (six years ago) link
John Bolton at the UN would def either turn it all to Duck Soup or accelerate our doom. Maybe both!
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:02 (six years ago) link
Gee, my sympathies for you:
Spicer: I regret embarrassing myself and my family https://t.co/cIqZqZH4jn pic.twitter.com/5UwxVrgkr0— The Hill (@thehill) January 30, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:07 (six years ago) link
ned that hannity story is nuts!
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:29 (six years ago) link
To put it mildly.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:34 (six years ago) link
Just to refresh, the sanctions against Russia that the President refused to sign were passed in the senate 98-2 and in the house 419-3
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:46 (six years ago) link
yeah and we've already done enough damage to our relationship with our dear friend russia so it's time to just drop it, okay?
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:50 (six years ago) link
no to defend what is clearly Trump trying to delay something he doesn't want to do, but the actual legislation itself has an allowance for postponement written into it. It isn't quite the same as him refusing to obey the legislation. From the article on The Hill:
"The 2017 legislation allows President Trump to postpone imposing sanctions on people or entities if he determines they are largely scaling back their transactions with Russia's defense or intelligence sectors, as long as he notifies the appropriate congressional committees at least every 180 days that they are seeing such progress."
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:51 (six years ago) link
trump's gonna fire mueller during the state of the union tomorrow night, isn't he
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:03 (six years ago) link
I know it seems kind of reductive and sophomoric to say "oh, President of the United States is a Russian stooge" but for real the President of the United States is actually a Russian stooge. Like, this is really happening.
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:04 (six years ago) link
Can you say kompromat? I knew you could.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:05 (six years ago) link
this could be insane. i hope not.
WASHINGTON — Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee, disregarding Justice Department warnings that their actions would be “extraordinarily reckless,” voted Monday evening to release a contentious secret memorandum said to accuse the department and the F.B.I. of misusing their authority to obtain a secret surveillance order on a former Trump campaign associate.The vote, made along party lines, threw fuel on an already fiery partisan conflict over the investigations into Russia’s brazen meddling in the 2016 presidential election. Republicans invoked a power never before used by the secretive committee to effectively declassify the memo that they had compiled. It was an extraordinary maneuver, cheered on by President Trump, who has repeatedly dismissed the Russia investigation as a “witch hunt” and a sham.
The vote, made along party lines, threw fuel on an already fiery partisan conflict over the investigations into Russia’s brazen meddling in the 2016 presidential election. Republicans invoked a power never before used by the secretive committee to effectively declassify the memo that they had compiled. It was an extraordinary maneuver, cheered on by President Trump, who has repeatedly dismissed the Russia investigation as a “witch hunt” and a sham.
on the news sources most of us rely on, i'm guessing they'll just report on the memo and the fallout. but i don't really have a good sense of how it will go down on the right. part of me is stressed the fuck out that this is going to be #benghazi bullshit all over again
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:12 (six years ago) link
and not only is he really a russian stooge (for whatever reason: debt, kompromat, the kochs and tillerson worked out an oil deal with putin, who knows?), the republicans are using their congressional majority to cover up treason, while the russian stooge defies the conclusions of the FBI, the CIA, the dutch government, and whoever else, successfully delaying coming to terms with russia having meddled in our and other NATO countries' recent elections. we are in the upside down, the sunken place. joseph mccarthy must be spinning in his grave
xpost
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:13 (six years ago) link
karl, pierce as usual has sharp sight
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a15917140/will-trump-fire-mueller/
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:17 (six years ago) link
i mean,
There is no known precedent for the Republicans’ action. Though House rules allow the Intelligence Committee to vote to disclose classified information if it is deemed to be in the public interest, the rule is not thought to have ever been used. Typically, lawmakers wishing to make public secretive information classified by the executive branch spend months, if not years, fighting with the White House and the intelligence community over what they can release.
wtf
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:21 (six years ago) link
it's not trump that even worries me right now, it's the house republicans. they are all in on fighting for trump, and starting a war with the justice department and the fbi to do it
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:22 (six years ago) link
despite flat income my tax return seems lower this year! where is my little richernessneed to figure out some deductions over here
― mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:24 (six years ago) link
I'm having...trouble finishing that Hannity/Assange story, i.e. I'm sick to my stomach.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:24 (six years ago) link
Pierce ha
Carter Page, the Zelig of international ratfucking
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:32 (six years ago) link
"Russian spies gave up Carter Page while being bugged by the FBI. Page was a known Russian stooge. FBI warrants to watch him have been issued ever since by Rod Rosenstein. Now that Page is Trump's lackey, those warrants have ended, and the GOP is trying to get rid of the last man above Mueller, Rosenstein, by claiming 'He was watching our good man, Page! LOCK HIM UP', and the stooges eat it up.
"Meanwhile, our government has been compromised. Welcome to Amerika."
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:40 (six years ago) link
"trump's gonna fire mueller during the state of the union tomorrow night, isn't he"
Well I suppose it is the sweeps week version of The Presidential Apprentice, so I say it is possible.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 06:43 (six years ago) link
Today has a real "end of Empire Strikes Back" feel. A lot of awful stuff suggesting awful things happened yesterday, huh?
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:02 (six years ago) link
luv2see the needle on the authoritarianism thermometer edge ever-closer to 'outright fascism'
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:37 (six years ago) link
lol if the shutdown was still going, would the house intelligence committee even be able to meet? Gr8 stuff democrats, really getting goals accomplished there
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 11:13 (six years ago) link
Yam is going to trap Schumer in carbomite at the end of the speech tonight
The memo affair seems like a fun popcorn munch to me (Dems will surely leak their memo at some point)
qualmsley not only all in on Olbermannesque paranoia but quoted the year's most overrated movie
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:36 (six years ago) link
Maybe Trump will successfully halt the investigation. He’s very sloppy and careless and dumb but he seems also to get away with anything he wants.
― treeship 2, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:39 (six years ago) link
good mourning!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:39 (six years ago) link
in addition to all that the revelation that the Kochs are going to funnel insane amounts of their newfound tax cut cash into the RNC this year seems like a bad omen
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:46 (six years ago) link
NYTimes headline: "Supporters Fear Trump’s Speech Will Lack the Edge They Love."My headline: shut the fuck up
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:48 (six years ago) link
Has the NYTimes gone senile?
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:49 (six years ago) link
No, it's a Trump supporting paper
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:50 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:51 (six years ago) link
lol not that the one excludes the other, quite the reverse
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:51 (six years ago) link
It's just a bad look all around for the media (not just the Times) to propagate the preemptive charm offensive line that the speech will be more nicer and more inclusive, it's even worse to write a preemptive story about hardliners being disappointed it's not meaner. Because in either case, who the fuck cares? He'll tweet something shitty within hours.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:53 (six years ago) link
yea I'm getting ready for all the shit "is this the Trump we were hoping for?" takes by the likes of Fareed and Cilizza
New York Times is absolutely awful, they don't even try to hide their biases anymore
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:55 (six years ago) link
It's not that they're "biased" -- every paper is. But the editors write headlines and assign stories that want to be clicked on by rural voters (who won't read the NYT anyway).
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:57 (six years ago) link
IDK throwing in some different form of "lets give the white supremacists a platform" every week while virtually ignoring those who dislike the president or are hurt by his policies feels a bit like a bias to me
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:58 (six years ago) link
Whetstones, getcher whetstones here, perfect for sharpening those dull gilly blades, whetstones, getcher whetstones...
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:59 (six years ago) link
They're liberals biased toward people in power, i.e. Clinton types who nevertheless loathe HRC.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:59 (six years ago) link