bc you don't waste good (useful) people on this shit
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 04:03 (six years ago) link
never send your serious candidates for the SOTU followup i guess? xp lol
― Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 04:04 (six years ago) link
the presidential performance
description otm.
any speech is a performance to an audience. it has little connection to overall job performance, other than that part of the job of being president is performative (the bully pulpit). no matter how many cheers Trump evoked tonight, his job performance has been pretty shitty. that won't change, because he won't change. tomorrow it will all look as it did yesterday, other than a bunch of newspaper stories about this speech, with varying degrees of unmerited flattery.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 04:08 (six years ago) link
This was also a sleazy, manipulative speech that involved dark insinuations about North Korea and him taking sole credit for every positive trend in the economy.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 04:22 (six years ago) link
It wasn’t presidential
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/trumps-solution-to-americas-crisis-nationalism/2018/01/30/db5f15f4-062f-11e8-94e8-e8b8600ade23_story.html
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 04:28 (six years ago) link
only watched like 5 minutes but he sounded pilled out
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 05:03 (six years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/state-of-the-union-fact-check-trumps-address-analyzed
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 05:11 (six years ago) link
The #SOTU speech is really boring, slow, lethargic - very hard to watch!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 13, 2016
― Acanthonus armatus (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 05:49 (six years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/01/30/fact-checking-the-2018-state-of-the-union-address/?utm_term=.0b8891946c8f
Some of the same items as that Guardian one.
many dubious facts and figures. Many of these claims have been fact-checked repeatedly, yet the president persists in using them.
Here is a guide to 18 claims, in the order in which Trump made them
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 06:21 (six years ago) link
Many of these claims have been fact-checked repeatedly, yet the president persists in using them.
Here is a guide to 18 claims,
https://media.giphy.com/media/Dxb9vPUbXyYX6/giphy_s.gif
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 06:34 (six years ago) link
Are the Democrats attractive enough to get people motivated to vote for them in a way other than not being Trump.I thought one major factor in 2016 was apathy in getting people out to vote. Knowing that the Republican base is actually going to show up to actively vote, but staying home and thinking the vote would be carried the way it should be anyway.
Hoping the outrageous awfulness is enough motivation in itself is probably not enough. Do the Dems have enough of a pull factor.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 08:41 (six years ago) link
Man, the state of the union amirite?
"“one American family."
Think the fact checkers missed this one.
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 08:45 (six years ago) link
https://d2ffutrenqvap3.cloudfront.net/items/1m3Y0j0D0U3V1C061606/Are%20We.jpg
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 12:07 (six years ago) link
xxp AFAIK the Dems' whole platform is just "we're the adults in the room, who else are you going to vote for?" In other words they're still on their boss-level tepid uninspired bullshit that captures none of the zeitgeist, pretty much across the board. I still couldn't name a single exciting voice in the party except for Bernie, who's actually a democratic socialist. It's really fucking depressing.
― davey, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 12:46 (six years ago) link
Warren. Anyone could be an exciting voice by directly addressing the rampant inequality of all forms in our society and how it is enabled by the inappropriate influence of corporate power over policy. It’s really a one weird trick kind of situation.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 12:50 (six years ago) link
It’s important to remain disgusted by Trump and the norms he is ripping apart but that can’t be the center of the message. For one, Trump isn’t the root cause of any of Ameica’s ills. He was only able to be elected because our politics had become profoundly stupid to begin with.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 12:52 (six years ago) link
I agree with that
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 12:55 (six years ago) link
jersey strong
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/01/what_jersey_thinks_of_president_trump.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 13:10 (six years ago) link
so what you're saying is, Ironstache for President
― frogbs, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 13:13 (six years ago) link
I find the whole "it's fine that they put a wetmouthed loser kid up to do the SOTU response cause it doesn't matter and it's always lame" argument hilarious and telling. I submit that maybe if you have the attention of a shit-ton of people you should endeavor to rise above expectations?
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:06 (six years ago) link
Ehhh, if you make the mistake of raising expectations, people then expect you to live up to them. Which is haaaaaard, and booooooring, uggghhhh.
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:14 (six years ago) link
Quite a few people I know earnestly believe the Dem establishment doesn't really want to win and it's getting harder to argue with them
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:18 (six years ago) link
otoh Bernie can go get fucked
I am strongly supportive of sanctions on Russia and North Korea. However, I worry very much about President Trump’s approach to Iran.— Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) July 27, 2017
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link
Unfortunate because sanctions only really hurt the people, not the aristocracy, yes? I only have a vague sense of how that works, but so I've heard
― davey, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link
That, but mainly (for me) the whole needless antagonizing thing
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link
who/what is he antagonizing?
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 15:28 (six years ago) link
The states he mentioned. the rhetorical dick-measuring accomplishes nothing ("strongly supportive," oh fuck off) and is the last thing you need to counter an administration that's fond of saber rattling. just leave the subject alone or, heaven forbid, maybe express some solidarity or actual human interest with the citizens of those nations. (I don't actually expect that from bernie at all, but it would be nice.)
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/health/cdc-director-fitzgerald-resigns-bn/index.htmlCDC director had financial interest in tobacco industry... and had to resign for it???! outrageous!clearly the #deepstate #swamp has not been #drained. i hope the president launches an immediate investigation into how this got #leaked.
― Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link
xp I don't think advocating sanctions on Russia given the context is inflammatory.
I infer from the rest that he disapproves of the president's warmongering on NKorea (sanctions will do) and his bluster about scrapping the Iran nuclear deal?
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link
Great that the media coverage of the “Dean Scream” defines how we readily look at everything now.
“they put a wet mouthed loser kid up to to the SOTU response...”
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link
"settling" for / compromising down to sanctions as an alternative to outright warmongering is weak tea garbage and he consistently misses opportunities to put forward a truly alternative vision of foreign policy, something he's better placed than anyone else to do
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link
NP are you implying JK does not fit that description
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:02 (six years ago) link
I'm frankly agog that a member of the Trump administration has stepped down over a conflict of interest rather than flipping the American public off as hard as she could. What universe are we in again?
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:08 (six years ago) link
Well I think we have everything summarized nicely here
House GOP aide tells me the train carrying members to the GOP retreat hit a garbage truck, and members are fine.But there could be potentially serious injuries to the people who were inside the truck, per the aide.— Haley Byrd (@byrdinator) January 31, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link
Could be. We didn't really stop to check.
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
how could they distinguish the garbage truck from GOP members
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link
ah there it is again - the queasy, vertiginous feeling that reality is being orchestrated by writers of terrible, obvious satire
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link
Was the garbage truck on fire?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link
some reports saying everyone is fine, some saying someone is dead.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link
twats on twitter calling it false flag, for some reason
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link
gowdy not running for reelection
There is a time to come and a time to go. This is the right time, for me, to leave politics and return to the justice system. Full statement here → pic.twitter.com/7I8AApqvs1— Trey Gowdy (@TGowdySC) January 31, 2018
― marcos, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, January 31, 2018 9:10 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the former comes from the GOP, the latter from the civilian authorities maybe?
― omar little, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link
Wonder what story about Gowdy is about to break xpost
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link
The book of Ecclesiastes teaches us there is a time and a season for all things
p sure that was the Byrds, dude
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
DEVELOPING: Train carrying GOP lawmakers to retreat collides with trash truck https://t.co/l1iAPNzniZ pic.twitter.com/E8YsuJV1uV— NBC News (@NBCNews) January 31, 2018
― Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
gowdy did 9/11 xp
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
On the day of the blue-blood eclipse, the GOP train literally collides with a trash truck.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link
msnbc says one killed (and paul ryan unhurt)
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link
I wonder what connection the truck drivers had to Clinton
― Evan, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link