Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

the only real cliffhanger I can think of is leo with a nest of tarantulas dangling from his tooth

tbh the only bit of the finale I enjoyed was when laura palmer did the backwards clicking bit

you aren't wondering if audrey is dead, huh

Why have the Wyndham Earl plot at all, it was so half-arsed.

Windom Earle sucks, but he works pretty well as a conduit for drawing Cooper to the Black Lodge, and imparting personal stakes on his journey there, so it's not just "detective goes to mysterious place seeking answers." He's worth it just for that amazing S2 finale imo, and the long return from the Lodge is narratively the best thing about S3.

plax hates a lot of stuff but, like me, he's a sweetheart

Feels like you're conflating stuff pretty much everybody hates (Audrey's plots in late s2, Donna paternity, miss twin peaks) with the finale which is rightly unconcerned with all those

also, kudos for just writing james entirely out with a postcard ("I'm in san francisco, its awesome")

Feels like you're conflating stuff pretty much everybody hates (Audrey's plots in late s2, Donna paternity, miss twin peaks) with the finale which is rightly unconcerned with all those

― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:31 AM (thirteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

exactly

THESE ARE ALL IN THE FINALE

I literally watched it last night

Also "Bob is in Cooper now and Coop is trapped in the Black Lodge for 25 years and everything is fucked" is probably the greatest cliffhanger any series finale has ever given us

but i guess sheryl lee screaming and strobe lights aren't for everyone

Outrageous attempt at innocence by association from morbs!

Also the fucking drawing being a map. Of course its a map. IT LOOKS LIKE A MAP. My god. Ultimately why I hated what happened to this series is that the genuinely eerie atmosphere of the first series just evaporates and instead there's all this Indiana Jones crap in the woods. Remember when they went to the log lady's house for tea and the log gave them a message. That was genuinely unsettling. The last ten minutes are mostly just people going "woooooh"

THESE ARE ALL IN THE FINALE

― plax (ico), Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:32 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I literally watched it last night

― plax (ico), Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:32 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

1. ok, yeah, donna's paternity does feature in the finale, but lynch truncates it to a very intense scene between ben and the hayward family, it's one of my favorite scenes in the whole series despite the dumb ideas that engineered the whole plot. like, doc hayward screaming over ben horne's unconscious body doesn't... do anything for you?

No, because its just like "ok lets tie up these loose ends, how about a... confrontation?"

i had other points but i'm not really convinced you watched it

Yeah there is the barest continuity between the Donna/Audrey scenes in the last ep and the ones leading up to them. And the pageant is simply not in the finale.

also, kudos for just writing james entirely out with a postcard ("I'm in san francisco, its awesome")

one thing you have to understand about james, though - he's cool. he's always been cool.

james is not remotely cool are you joking? james is such a boring guy you would avoid at parties when you were a teenager. Do not let him have any of my weed. jesus

he doesn't talk much these days. but he's cool.

he's cool

just you

and i

*swaay*

best bit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohV3_9mgNGY

James's song is legit top 5 scene in first two seasons (although yes comes below mairzy doats)

also jerry horne's wardrobe

James's song is legit top 5 scene in first two seasons (although yes comes below mairzy doats)

― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:40 AM (twenty-five seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all in sheryl lee's and lara flynn boyle's expressions

tbh if you don't like the finale episode you should prob stop punishing yourself now & skip s3

yeah, exactly. when people ask about the return i usually say that if they liked the finale and fire walk with me, they'll love the return

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, January 31, 2018 9:28 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i liked the finale (although i agree with plenty of plaxico's criticisms of it) and fire walk with me and disliked the return ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Its also so disappointing that the show finally runs away from its most troubling intimations (that the family is an institution that allows abuse and violence to be perpetuated) towards something really trite (the woods are haunted).

it's both

Like what is this show ultimately about? That the FBI and the military are here to keep us safe from evil?

Yeah the one stands in for the other (for lynch, anyway - I agree that this escapes the other writers in the latter part of s2) xp

xpost

there's an answer to that, but it's classified at the blue rose level

Like what is this show ultimately about? That the FBI and the military are here to keep us safe from evil?

― plax (ico), Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:48 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is this the conclusion you drew from the end of the finale or what

Truman, Cooper and the Major. Good decent guys from the protective arm of the state, enveloping us in warm enlightened vibes from Tibet, etc.

The show's reimagining of the Feds as a spiritual chivalric order shouldn't be taken literally imo but also like, they're completely impotent and clueless and fail all the time?

Too bad there's all this ahistorical evil out there making us rape our daughters in train carriages

^^^^

i was agreeing with wins not with plax

you people are going to get me sick of this show before I watch The Return.

thanks morbs, i hope you do

I would skip it entirely. Maybe just read the wikipedia summary or something and then watch something better.

There is a level on which Cooper and esp Cole are, well, clowns.

btwn this show and X-Files I think '90s TV cultists have a misshapen concept of how often the feds deal with the paranormal. (UFOs, that's another matter.)

too late, plax, i got the Bluray for Christmas!

Twin Peaks is about the story of abuse itself
Twin Peaks is about dualities and opposing forces
Twin Peaks is about the absence of Laura Palmer in a quaint little town that gets uglier and more violent as the layers come off
Twin Peaks is about as serious as a Tom & Jerry cartoon
Twin Peaks is about entering a world, falling in love with it, working within it, and letting it talk to you.
Twin Peaks is about healing
Twin Peaks is about how a small American town reacts to a murder mystery
Twin Peaks is about the masks people wear
Twin Peaks is about a lot of things, but basically, it is the mystery of who killed Laura Palmer
Twin Peaks is about the battle between good and evil
Twin Peaks is about the ugly frisson between public personas and private perversions
Twin Peaks is about the endlessly seductive idea of "mystery," of the ways human beings find to deal with the unknown
Twin Peaks is about the complexity, beauty, and horror of our choices
Twin Peaks is about you, because YOU'RE THE MAN
Twin Peaks is about wrestling with the nature of evil
Twin Peaks is about good and bad, about why people cling into certain myths and ideologies, about how far evilness can get into the bloodstreams of our society unrecognized
Twin Peaks is about watching sports and beautiful girls
Twin Peaks is about Baby Boomer shame
Twin Peaks is about a town of people whose lives criss-cross back and forth and they all knew Laura
TWIN PEAKS is about CONSPIRACIES - SECRETS MYSTERIES HUMAN NATURE AND HUMAN FAILINGS
Twin Peaks is about darkness and light, beauty and violence, and the endless yearning for more than real life.
Twin Peaks is about sex

plax why is it important to you that other people don't enjoy twin peaks

twin peaks is about healing

why do you think this is important to me?