rolling trump-russian collusion

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"The U.S. official in charge of protecting American elections from hacking" is a stretch but I guess we'll take it

El Tomboto, Thursday, 8 February 2018 01:25 (six years ago) link

i hope the scorpions record a sequel to "winds of change" celebrating relations between former soviet bloc countries and the west thawing to such an extent that team america is more concerned about mexican immigration than russian election interference

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 8 February 2018 04:05 (six years ago) link

i'll see your ground zero mosque, and raise you

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-and-large-russian-delegation-attend-national-prayer-breakfast-801195

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link

lol of course the putin opponent who was invited is 'russia's paris hilton.' this fuckin clown car

maura, Friday, 9 February 2018 12:34 (six years ago) link

i'm told this is big

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/09/donald-trump-russia-election-nsa

mookieproof, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:27 (six years ago) link

whoa if true

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:37 (six years ago) link

seems too good to be true, i've been told on this board that Putin runs the Intercept

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 February 2018 22:47 (six years ago) link

The stolen docs had the only copy of mrs fields delish chocolate chip cookies, and the original copy of recipe here was lost. Nsa had to get those back. At any cost.

Hunt3r, Friday, 9 February 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link

i confess that i'm a little confused by why the nsa would want to buy the stolen documents back from russia. sorry if i'm being naive but wouldn't the russians just make a copy of the documents? or it's some sort of special document that cannot be copied? or...the americans never made a copy in the first place so lost the original, only copy they had? "it was a goof"

Karl Malone, Friday, 9 February 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link

i won't be surprise if once the dust settles the russians are all like, 'look, we were just as appalled by trump as you yanks'

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 9 February 2018 23:56 (six years ago) link

xp i imagine that nsa doesn't know exactly what's been stolen from them and therefore doesn't know what all it needs to scrap/rework

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:12 (six years ago) link

I can’t follow that story at all. Unnamed sources have said that unnamed sources were interested in anonymous pronouns nationality Shadow Brokers Trump money Dan Coats Mueller. Berlin.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:32 (six years ago) link

OK lol @ gross incompetence of sigint people trying to do a humint job - but also sad

El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:48 (six years ago) link

Unnamed sources have said that unnamed sources were interested in anonymous pronouns nationality Shadow Brokers Trump money Dan Coats Mueller. Berlin.

I think you misspelled "Benghazi" there bro

I will finish what I (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:27 (six years ago) link

damning review

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-russia-isnt-about-the-cover-up-its-about-the-crime

One tip-off was in Michael Flynn’s December 1 “allocution”—his signed submission to the court as part of his guilty plea to making false statements to the FBI on January 24, 2017. It received almost no media attention but suggested the nature of the criminal conspiracy that would likely be at the heart of Mueller’s prosecution.

Flynn didn’t just vaguely admit he lied. The law doesn’t allow that. He admitted in writing that his lie “had a material impact” on the FBI’s probe “into the existence of any links or coordination between individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and Russia’s efforts to intervene in the 2016 election.”

hurry up, mr. mueller!

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 10 February 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

What the hell is up with this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQZr2NgKPiU

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link

boy I really hope that guy doesn't mysteriously wind up dead

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 14:18 (six years ago) link

we need to get this guy on the case. american IC is more and more "compromised" by trump m.mulvaney-ing the FBI / CIA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U28FY1H8sbY

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link

It would be nice to think that Navalny has been allowed to persist because his profile in the West has risen too much....seems more like Putin has calculated that the public is now so inured to these crimes that he poses no real threat. New normals everywhere.

A couple months before that boat trip (June 2016) Victoria Nuland was asking congress for billion$ "to deploy an additional rotational Armored Brigade Combat Team (ABCT) to Central and Eastern Europe; the prepositioning of combat equipment; as well as additional trainings and exercises in Europe."

https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/060716_Nuland_Testimony.pdf

Entrepreneurial Jism Unshackler (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link

the escort's instagram is wild. she's claiming that oleg is suing her to remove the photos and that it's an end-run around blocking youtube and instagram in russia?

https://www.instagram.com/nastya_rybka.ru/?hl=en

maura, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:32 (six years ago) link

Some knucklehead at the IC testimony today asked smugly if the Steele Dossier is still considered "salacious and unverified." IC guy paused then said he would have to address that in closed session (!).

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link

Same dude asked first if Steele had been employed by Oleg.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link

The escort is also threatening to sue Deripaska for rape if he doesn’t agree to marry her and led a partially-clothed street protest / publicity stunt in favour of Harvey Weinstein a few months ago. She’s a colourful character.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

Yeah, that Weinstein protest was in the video. Looks like she stuck sparklers in her butt.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link

The column he quotes... How can anyone write shit like this with a straight face?

There has long been a fringe on the far right that believes the Clintons are responsible for murdering dozens of people in order to silence them. Sometimes, people who thought that way were in the mainstream, as evidenced by the leading role played by the Wall Street Journal editorial page in pushing the theory that Hillary Clinton had former White House attorney Vince Foster murdered.

But those people have been largely scorned and relegated to obscurity. The new conspiracy theorists — the ones who casually suggest that when a plane crashes, it is really a secret attempt by Putin and Trump to silence one of the passengers (who wasn’t even a passenger) — are found not on far right websites, but on MSNBC and at Harvard Law School, with constantly growing social media followings and increasingly viral tweets.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link

Seth Rich anyone?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link

Is the Seth Rich theory "in the mainstream"?

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link

As in has anyone published anything regarding it in publications comparable to the WSJ?

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link

The more outré Russia conspiracy theories are definitely more mainstream/visible than the Seth Rich thing imo

Simon H., Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link

xp. Well given that Louise Mensch had an op-ed in the NYT I would say so.

oh, ok, fox covered it. i guess it's mainstream in terms of visibility and viewership.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link

Sean Hannity devoted several nights to Seth Rich, wtf?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link

Fox News is obviously a bit of an outlier in terms of the fact that it is a huge network but is batshit insane

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link

And you should really read the column, the whole thing is about a weirdo dude on twitter. Not exactly a great example if the point is mainstream acceptance.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link

Also, try and google 'Breitbart Seth Rich' and 'Infowars Seth Rich'. Conspiracy hustling IS the right wing media mainstream.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link

yeah but fox news is also very much in the public sphere in a lot of parts of the country.

maura, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link

The politicization of the DoJ at the hands of a far-right AG, amid an attempted purge of employees deemed insufficiently loyal, is never described as McCarthyism, but the idea that the "deep state" is full of secret leftists, here protecting their traitorous queen....

— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) December 21, 2017

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link

Does Greenwald still talk about Louise Mensch? That may indicate some degree of desperation on his part if he’s done that say in the past year.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link

What the hell is up with this?

"allegedly" oleg deripaska, sergei pridhodko, and paul manafort were the go-betweens between mr. putin and mr. trump?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/world/europe/russia-youtube-instagram-navalny.html

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:27 (six years ago) link

*prikhodko

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link

not sure re Mensch but bear in mind the NYT gave her a byline less than a year ago, only a couple months before it was broadly agreed she was certifiable

Simon H., Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link

Yes, that is in the Chait piece.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:47 (six years ago) link

have yet to read, was responding to NP regarding the acceptable Mensch burn window

Simon H., Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:50 (six years ago) link

yes there is certainly no lunatic fringe today on RussiaRussiaRussia

I am so confused-- now it's RUSSIA that is spreading the real/fake stories about Russian influence over Trump?! pic.twitter.com/6oHyoleI9x

— Peter Hart (@peterfhart) February 13, 2018

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:23 (six years ago) link

Yeah sure but that’s not a good example probably.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link

I find that plausible: that it's as much about sowing chaos as it is about guaranteeing a specific result.

I'm walking on Sondheim (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:27 (six years ago) link

Why would Russia not be spreading misinformation about Russia’s activities?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:01 (six years ago) link

What is this kindergarten playbook people think that foreign intelligence services are reading from

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:02 (six years ago) link


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