I'm not sure I like measuring suffering in percentages. Surely it's the total number that is important?
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:32 (six years ago) link
I think those are very reasonable fears mordy. my hope is that we see some real-world models start to emerge and provide new strategies. (this is why I think every leftist, including me, is going to be completely insufferable whenever the next UK election gets triggered)
― Simon H., Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link
Great post, Mordy – mostly mirrors my own worries and scepticism.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:38 (six years ago) link
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:32 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/repugnant-conclusion/
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:42 (six years ago) link
I'm not a utilitarian, never mind a negative one.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link
I just mean that I don't see the good of 45% of people starving vs 50% (say) if it's a greater number of people starving.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link
Are they ours or theirs starving
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link
Mordy otm obv
Also inequality is a strange thing to measure on even if everyone agreed what we meant by inequality
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link
Oh boy, guess who got printed in the Independent for writing about this:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jordan-peterson-clinical-psychologist-canada-popularity-convincing-why-left-wing-alt-right-cathy-a8208301.html
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:00 (six years ago) link
(Hint: Lacan isn’t mentioned till the 4th paragraph in)
make it stop
With Russell Brand for tomorrow's podcast https://t.co/H7GLekceJz pic.twitter.com/ukXAdQXeov— Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) February 13, 2018
― soref, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link
smh @ both of these developments
― Simon H., Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:37 (six years ago) link
pwease save us youtube daddy
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:38 (six years ago) link
oh god
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:03 (six years ago) link
Russell Brand isn’t that bad
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:32 (six years ago) link
politically he seems mostly fine? I just find him incredibly annoying lmao
― Simon H., Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:33 (six years ago) link
Hes a vapid slapped with good vocabular momentum
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:35 (six years ago) link
slapper
Yeah. I kinda can’t help but empathize with his whole working-out-his-ideas in public thing though. Also he turned away like 20 million dollars he could have claimed after his divorce from Katy Perry.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link
Big fucking kudos for shagging Katy Perry for free that guy
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:37 (six years ago) link
I have a fairly low threshold for praising people
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:40 (six years ago) link
We may not have that in common
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:41 (six years ago) link
slapped with good vocabular momentum
I love this btw. Joycean.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:48 (six years ago) link
Yes, that's clear.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:57 (six years ago) link
Ok, you can’t just second my own self-deprecating comment like it’s your own insult. It’s in the FAQ.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:16 (six years ago) link
eh, brand is an idiot forever for that "you shouldn't vote" stuff from a few years back
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:19 (six years ago) link
xp treeship otm that shit is lower than sarcasm
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:21 (six years ago) link
I like Brand's podcast (despite him being occasionally annoying--which is really only when he tries to be funny) and think he's pretty sharp but doing this right after Sam Harris means I'm gonna have to take a pass on listening to it.
― ryan, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:29 (six years ago) link
i liked brand's amy winehouse eulogy
― maura, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 03:21 (six years ago) link
I think peterson just tweeted to a zizek parody account... calling for a duel. He pinned it. Unreal.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 04:58 (six years ago) link
Tbf mistaking a zizek parody for zizek is extremely relatable
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 09:29 (six years ago) link
I'm not a fan of Brand but he has quite an audience and I dunno why you would use that to introduce ppl to Peterson.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 09:43 (six years ago) link
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:32 (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You deserve to be FP'd to death for this.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 09:57 (six years ago) link
Love how Mordy looked into worker run enterprises and inferred a whole little dystopia out of it. Are you writing this shit up as a novel Mordy where can I buy it?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:11 (six years ago) link
Cut him some slack, the lad's feeling pessimistic :(
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:22 (six years ago) link
I'll try but I can't make any promises.
I didn't know Russell speaks big words fast = Joycean, but it's just another day on ilxor dot com.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:30 (six years ago) link
Can't quite parse the man-bun plus what looks like it might be an Alcoholics Anonymous hoodie.
― I'm walking on Sondheim (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:34 (six years ago) link
Russell BRAND amirite
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 11:47 (six years ago) link
he was pretty much the only person in the public eye trying to articulate this despite how common a view it is & I've yet to see a good counter argument. if miliband hadn't made the changes to the labour party that allowed for corbynism i wld still agree w him. ppl who are much less politically active or effective feel unselfconscious chiding him for his irresponsibility. this is often the case w brand, who more than most ppl just gets dismissed wholesale for a few moral failings or just bc he irks (& obv you can wonder what it says about the culture that a handsome, optimistic, peacocking, working class autodidact annoys so many)
― ogmor, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:11 (six years ago) link
I wasn't aware Mark E. Smith annoyed that many people tbf.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:15 (six years ago) link
oh you
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:18 (six years ago) link
ogmor otm
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:22 (six years ago) link
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:30 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I was saying that Dag’s post was Joycean, in its phrasing, because. The typos seemed like neologisms. “slapped with good vocabular momentum.”
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:26 (six years ago) link
I’m going to make Genius annotation pages for each of my posts from now on.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:29 (six years ago) link
He's completely fallen off my radar since the Miliband era tbh, now we've got Corbyn after all, so maybe he's really great now ...
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:31 (six years ago) link
i dunno he seems to be posing approvingly with an actual fascist dick upthread so maybe not
― "oh no my cheds" man had dark to black packet (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:32 (six years ago) link
'slapped' was a typo but 'good vocabular momentum' was excellent
― imago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:35 (six years ago) link
agenbrand of inwit
― I'm walking on Sondheim (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:35 (six years ago) link
darragh can turn a phrase
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 12:40 (six years ago) link