the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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XP yer honorary in either of the NI groups you like

Calz- the lunatic unionist fringe

Which is the majority like

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 March 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

xxp don’t forget the Irexit crew frantically astroturfing on twitter!

gyac, Saturday, 3 March 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link

Irexit is certainly an interesting little GS wormhole to go down. I was only recently made aware of it through a Horslips thread on ILM!

Luke O’Connor applauded and cheered with gusto and occasionally leapt to his feet during speeches at the Irexit conference for those opposed to Ireland’s membership of the European Union.

The 21-year-old Kilkenny student warmed to the praise lavished by former Ukip leader Nigel Farage on US president Donald Trump and the Brexit-like political earthquake he unleashed in 2016.

O’Connor wore a Trump-campaign “Make America Great Again” red baseball cap to the Saturday conference at the RDS in Dublin.

“I honestly get a great reaction. I would wear it on nights out,” he told The Irish Times.

calzino, Saturday, 3 March 2018 20:55 (six years ago) link

THE horslips thread iirc

mark s, Saturday, 3 March 2018 21:02 (six years ago) link

the one and only!

calzino, Saturday, 3 March 2018 21:05 (six years ago) link

gyac otm except htf do you categorise them

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 March 2018 21:32 (six years ago) link

The only way forward, (Heseltine) said, was for the issues to be put back to parliament, and then to an election or referendum. “The downsides are becoming more evident as time passes. We have had a serious devaluation of the currency. We have turned ourselves from the fastest growing to the slowest growing economy in Europe and we have made a complete Horlicks of the Irish border. I am totally with the view of Tony Blair and John Major that this matter has got to go back to parliament and possibly to a referendum or a general election.”

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 3 March 2018 23:22 (six years ago) link

a: horlicks is good not bad
b: heseltine major and blair ffs

mark s, Saturday, 3 March 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link

I like to keep my malt based drinks out of politics.

calzino, Saturday, 3 March 2018 23:32 (six years ago) link

And Horlicks is amazing not good!

calzino, Saturday, 3 March 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link

Just checked press only have ovaltine ffs

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 March 2018 23:36 (six years ago) link

Just walking past the Tetley Brewery in Leeds and getting that lovely malty aroma, which is far nicer than any of the piss they produce, gives me a massive horlicks craving.

calzino, Saturday, 3 March 2018 23:39 (six years ago) link

I'm the same with Guinness the drink -bogpiss- and the lovely toasty smell of the malting that covers most of d8 on a cool morning

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 March 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link

Anyways I'm on milk rationing thanks to our never forgetting the famine when a weather event comes up

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 March 2018 23:43 (six years ago) link

damn - 3:14 in "who spilled their Ovaltine over the weekend?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dS2McPYzEE

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 4 March 2018 00:24 (six years ago) link

All of this is fantastic. Tempted to spend the day in a Mark Leckey loop.

kim jong deal (suzy), Sunday, 4 March 2018 08:15 (six years ago) link

Take a drink every time T May uses the word 'ambitious' to describe her vision

koogs, Sunday, 4 March 2018 10:53 (six years ago) link

I can't face another Con party political broadcast on the BBC. I'll start getting bitter and asking for my tv license money refunding/wishing slow painful deaths on various ppl.

calzino, Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:07 (six years ago) link

LOL @ Theresa May now being presented as some kind of political genius for 'reuniting the Tory Party'.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:32 (six years ago) link

has her grand Machiavellian strategy been just to act like a fucking idiot all the time?

calzino, Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:44 (six years ago) link

"act"

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:50 (six years ago) link

I refer you to the "Baldrick" thread

Mark G, Sunday, 4 March 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link

wait, now I'm getting a flashback to a song that went "we are the Heselteeneys" from some satirical TV show in the 80s, probably Spitting image, but I can't find any mention of that online so maybe it's a false flashback.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 4 March 2018 13:54 (six years ago) link

no i remember that too, must be Spitting Image

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link

stop remembering spitting image, it was bad

mark s, Sunday, 4 March 2018 14:00 (six years ago) link

wasn't denying that, but it's a formative memory

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2018 14:02 (six years ago) link

for some reason I have very vivid memories of that "you'll never meet a nice South African" song spitting image did. It was probably bad, but when you are young and bad yourself, what do you know?

calzino, Sunday, 4 March 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link

we only had 3 channels

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2018 14:14 (six years ago) link

ok, it came back to me via another remembered line from the Heselteeney's song "why did you have to paint him red, you should have used blue paint instead" - Heseltine was sprayed with red paint at a Greenham Common protest, I think.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 4 March 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link

lol @ Paigon O'Neil, gritty radical brexiteer + Republic of Grime/Ireland spokesman denouncing Stormzy "has been co-opted by the chattering class". Absolute bellend.

calzino, Monday, 5 March 2018 09:54 (six years ago) link

he should know his place

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 March 2018 09:55 (six years ago) link

at least Sir Bradley Wiggins is having another bad day.

calzino, Monday, 5 March 2018 09:59 (six years ago) link

you mean drug cheat and car advert faux sentimentalist Lord Bradley Weller of PEDington?

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 March 2018 10:07 (six years ago) link

Need to strip those Golds away before he takes them to Cash Converters!

calzino, Monday, 5 March 2018 10:17 (six years ago) link

Most recent election results for European social democratic parties:

Fr: PS 7%
De: SPD 20.5%
Nl: PvDA 6%
Gr: PASOK 6%
Es: PSOE 22.6%
It: PD: 19%
At: SPÖ: 26.9%
Se: S 31%
Cz: ČSSD 7.3%
Dk: S 26.3%
Pt: PS 32.3%
Fi: SDP 16.5%
No: AP 27.4%
Ch: 18.8%
Is: S 12.1%

UK: LAB 40%

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) March 5, 2018

mark s, Monday, 5 March 2018 12:48 (six years ago) link

Need to bear in mind the split between FPTP and other systems there though.

nashwan, Monday, 5 March 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link

issue examined with in the responses

(unless this was the joke yr making)

mark s, Monday, 5 March 2018 12:58 (six years ago) link

How many of those have been in government/implementing austerity measures since 2008, just out of interest?

Matt DC, Monday, 5 March 2018 13:09 (six years ago) link

another masterpiece of set design for the tories

pic.twitter.com/mHjUT7wCLO

— Chris Mandle (@chris_mandle) March 5, 2018

bathed and ready for a snack (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 March 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link

haha

Google Atheist (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 5 March 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link

Paddy Power have moved JRM ahead of Corbyn as favourite to be next PM (4/1) - WilliamHill still going with Corbyn

Other main difference is WilliamHill have pushed 2022 election right out to 9/1 - Paddy Power have it as 7/4 favourite

Ominously both say (2022...or later)

anvil, Monday, 5 March 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link

what odds will they give me on corbyn being taken out by the deep state long before 2022

bathed and ready for a snack (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 March 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link

these odds just reflect where the (not always smart) money is going though innit? What I don't understand is why is it that the oddschecker Most Popular Bets pie-chart shows half the money has been staked on 2018 election, but yet it isn't the fav.

calzino, Monday, 5 March 2018 13:53 (six years ago) link

I am going to stop saying that JRM would be an unmitigated disaster if he ran, cos the fucking UK electorate.

calzino, Monday, 5 March 2018 13:55 (six years ago) link

i'd like to think that even the uk electorate would balk at electing lord snooty as prime minister but yeah since a majority also voted to leave the eu i guess anything is possible in our current hellscape

bathed and ready for a snack (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 March 2018 14:00 (six years ago) link

Political odds making is meaningless, its just advertising to the big bookies, its such an infinitessimally small part of their business they don't care about getting it wrong, just grabbing attention

(robot gives Mum a hot dirty slap) (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 5 March 2018 14:02 (six years ago) link

People walking off with those stubby biros is a bigger concern to bookmakers than political forecasting

(robot gives Mum a hot dirty slap) (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 5 March 2018 14:03 (six years ago) link

multiple xps - all this means is that the bookies rate a Tory leadership change as being more likely than another snap election. It’s flawed thinking because for JRM to get through to the last two, you’d need the parliamentary party to vote him in and I’m not convinced he wouldn’t be blocked well before that stage. He’s more of a stalking horse imo.

gyac, Monday, 5 March 2018 14:06 (six years ago) link


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