really? real estate hopping? I laughed but it didn't make any of my organs sing.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 March 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link
I'll take that.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 5 March 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link
can we discuss again how beautifully staged and acted the Danny/Lady Bird coming out sequences are?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link
I recall Lady Bird spitting out “you’re gay” as an attack, her face softening as she realizes what she knows and what it means for her friend
― valorous wokelord (silby), Monday, 5 March 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link
open house gawking is a classic activity in smaller cities and I did that with my mom!
― mh, Monday, 5 March 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
I'd forgotten what the after school activity was. I suppose it may have meant nothing to me as neither I nor most of my classmates grew up primarily in a single family house, and have never really desired to live in one.
― Moo Vaughn, Monday, 5 March 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link
open houses are almost entirely a sunday afternoon thing
― mh, Monday, 5 March 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
Tim: it's always good to ... 'Reflect on Rye'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDmgbvGQeF4
― the pinefox, Monday, 5 March 2018 18:27 (six years ago) link
I'm grateful to Moo Vaughn for being the only person apart from Tim who agrees with me and I would like to read his or her thoughts on the film (which are apparently on another thread).
Yes let's keep the Lady Bird opinions confined to non-Lady Bird threads, only discussion about God Is Not Dead 3 itt
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 5 March 2018 20:32 (six years ago) link
God: still not dead yet
― mh, Monday, 5 March 2018 20:33 (six years ago) link
Happy coincidence - just read this entry from Anthony Powell's Journals, 19.5.82:
"When I was young, and people used to say - as they often did - what an awful place Rye was, with its tarted up antique shops, bogus bohemians, horses brasses, and lesbians, there was always someone to add that Rye was nothing, in some respects, to Winchelsea, which was far worse."
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 5 March 2018 21:02 (six years ago) link
I like both.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 11:38 (six years ago) link
'Reflect on Winchelsea'.
Ford Madox Ford did - he lived there - as you probably know, Ward.
But there IS a beautiful place in Sussex called Rye which is near to the SEA yay!Seriously, yeah that sounded tragically like a parody. The article Elton wrote in the Daily Mail about how all modern pop was rubbish and Queen were the greatest band of all time sealed his fate for me.― Robin Carmody, Monday, May 13, 2002 Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkum, isn't it Rhye?I'll get me studded vest.― Mark C, Monday, May 13, 2002 Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkRye sucks.― Graham, Monday, May 13, 2002 Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkB-but Henry James' house is in Rye!― Andrew L, Tuesday, May 14, 2002 Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkTHE MASTER!― mark s, Tuesday, May 14, 2002 Bookmark
― Robin Carmody, Monday, May 13, 2002 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
um, isn't it Rhye?I'll get me studded vest.
― Mark C, Monday, May 13, 2002 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Rye sucks.― Graham, Monday, May 13, 2002 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
B-but Henry James' house is in Rye!― Andrew L, Tuesday, May 14, 2002 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
THE MASTER!― mark s, Tuesday, May 14, 2002 Bookmark
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 11:40 (six years ago) link
This is the thread where Graham complained about Rye and Tim said it was actually OK.
Of course I was incorrect to say that Tim explicitly said he wanted to live in Rye. But he was positive about it - as I would be.
I now think that this thread genuinely articulates the issues discussed from LADY BIRD (2017) on ILX in 2002.
How am I going to stay sane for the next 3 months?
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 11:44 (six years ago) link
I did know that Pinefox, yes. You may also know of Miranda Seymour's book A Ring of Conspirators, which is a good guide to Henry James' literary circle in and around Rye, including Ford, Kipling, Crane and Wells.
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 11:55 (six years ago) link
I don't think I can do, but I can offer this in response:
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/05/30/books/neighbors-friends-collaborators-enemies.html?pagewanted=all
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 12:26 (six years ago) link
They sound like very similar books!
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 12:30 (six years ago) link
I am glad that we have found a thread on which to discuss Rye.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 13:10 (six years ago) link
OK, this was about 3 degrees less irritating than the Garden State/Adventureland/Little Miss Sunshine axis wtf is wrong with everyone.
― two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916), Saturday, 21 April 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link
Idk maybe we all have a soul
― valorous wokelord (silby), Saturday, 21 April 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link
It’s possible
― two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916), Saturday, 21 April 2018 18:27 (six years ago) link
the jokes are funnier than Adventureland, c'mon
haven't subjected myself to the other two
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 April 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link
― two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916)
That formulation makes as much sense as Bush's Axis of Evil.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 April 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link
yeah this movie was much much more genuine than either of those three, none of which featured characters as deep as the gym teacher-turned-drama teacher who shows up for two scenes, let alone any of the core family members.
― don't make me wait (with Shaggy) (voodoo chili), Saturday, 21 April 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link
like where does Garden State come from? that movie was basically overwrought pathos-by-numbers. this was a much more believable, lived-in universe.
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 April 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link
It is more deeply felt and a cut above those films, but there’s a shared aesthetic (really is it hard to fathom that grouping?) and it’s not one I can stomach so easily in 2018.Expectations tainted by uninhibited praise from all corners I guess. It’s a better version of a thing I hate.
― two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916), Saturday, 21 April 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link
Unpack the grouping
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 April 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link
I can see that, it's a thin line, I understand the criticism & dislike, I hate all that shit too. But it never crossed my mind watching Lady Bird. But I understand it
― flappy bird, Saturday, 21 April 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
OK, this was about 3 degrees less irritating than the Garden State/Adventureland/Little Miss Sunshine axis wtf is wrong with everyone.― two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916)
Idk maybe we all have a soul― valorous wokelord (silby)
It’s possible― two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916)
Like Lady Bird, love Adventureland, but I love that exchange.
― clemenza, Saturday, 21 April 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
there’s a shared aesthetic
what is it?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link
youth?
― mh, Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link
Whiteness. Let’s be honest.
― Uppercase (Eric H.), Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link
Let's say I'd love for Gerwig to have directed Garden State to see how she would have dealt with those tiresome tropes.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link
films about people that are annoyed all the time?
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link
i haven't seen Ladybird fwiw but it seemed like one of those from the trailer.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link
― Heavy Messages (jed_),
teenagers?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link
ILXers on the politics threads?
I haven’t seen Little Miss Sunshine but nothing makes me think it belongs in the same category as Ladybird
fwiw she was definitely not annoyed all the time. thought she took the genuine frustrations in stride, which is an actual complaint from some parties who didn’t find a conflict in the movie
― mh, Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:34 (six years ago) link
IMO the trailer made it seem like a much worse movie than it is.
I don't even object to circa1916's characterization of this as three degrees less annoying than Garden State et. al. It just turns out that's a winning formula for a lot of people, myself included.
― JRN, Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link
Although I've actually never actually seen Garden State. But Adventureland, sure.
― JRN, Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link
um I’m in a movie theater about to see I feel pretty alone and greta gerwig just walked in and sat down in front of me— jaye hunt (@hayejunt) May 9, 2018
― j., Thursday, 10 May 2018 05:27 (six years ago) link
lmao
― flappy bird, Thursday, 10 May 2018 05:42 (six years ago) link
Queen of my heart
― valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 10 May 2018 05:52 (six years ago) link
amy schumer: “when we’re little girls–“greta: “HEEEERE WE GO”— jaye hunt (@hayejunt) May 9, 2018
i'm dying, don't even care if that twitter person made this all up, it's hilarious
― mh, Thursday, 10 May 2018 13:52 (six years ago) link
um I’m in a movie theater about to see Annihilation alone and I just walked in and sat down in front of me— yaye (@danvasmoon) May 13, 2018
― flappy bird, Sunday, 13 May 2018 06:29 (six years ago) link
Finally saw this. At first I thought I was disappointed by it, and there are still some writing choices that annoy me: I think Gerwig repeatedly emphasizes the family's (relative) poverty a bit too much; Lady Bird making a crack about "the wrong side of the tracks" and passing off her (boy)friend's grandma's house as her own are enough that we don't need the mother constantly reminding her (and us) how poor they all are. Also, the bit about the coach directing the play was funny until Gerwig decides to hammer the joke home a bit too much; I found his discomfort with making the switch from football to theatre a lot funnier before he started mapping out plays and barking out cheers. I took both of these things as a lack of confidence in the material that is likely the result of being a first time director, but they annoyed me all the same. I also didn't find the conclusion as moving as I expect I was meant to, and I wish the movie had found a way to end without the New York stuff, and particularly the phone call.
But the stuff that's good is very good: pretty much all of the performances (Tracy Letts is kind of a secret weapon here), the dimensions afforded to Metcalf's character, the way that the whole prom episode plays out, and the line about attention = love (truthfully, it was these last two that finally bumped me from a strong 6/10 to a more enthusiastic-with-reservations 7/10). At least two bigs laughs for me, as well: I'm thinking of Ronan's response to Chalamet's posturing about Iraq--"Different things can be sad, it's just war!"--and her later bafflement over what's wrong with Greatest Hits albums--"but they're the greatest."
― Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Friday, 20 July 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link
Also, I am embarrassed about how I keep failing to recognize Lois Smith, who was very good both here and in Marjorie Prime and, now that I look her up, has been in a bunch of other things I've seen.
― Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Friday, 20 July 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link
i liked the coach and felt the joke wasn't too laboured. i disliked the ending, just didn't work that well for me, though i liked that she decided to stop calling herself lady bird at least.
overall this was decent, a lot better than whatever crap baumbach shits out these days for sure, but also just sort of middling and ok, a 6 out of 10 maybe if i were to quantify it. feel like "old man shouts at cloud" but the movies these days that get hyped as films of the year are generally pretty good and nothing more.
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 20 July 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link