Riddle me this, Batman: How come everybody found it so acceptable to make fun of Terri Schiavo?

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kirby can't see very well, but he ain't brain dead.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:16 (nineteen years ago) link

if she'd been married to kirby this whole thing would've been over a long time ago.

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:31 (nineteen years ago) link

PuckThePolice, indeed.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Remy OTM

amon (eman), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:52 (nineteen years ago) link

so, like, when Jerry Falwell finally snuffs it, we can unload full tilt on his corpse, right?

kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:04 (nineteen years ago) link


survey says...YES!

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:09 (nineteen years ago) link

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kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:10 (nineteen years ago) link

The impulse was obviously a reaction to the cynical appropriation of "Terri" for assorted political and religious ends -- she wasn't a person in that context, she was a symbol, the same way the same crowd uses fetuses. I didn't like the jokes, but I understand that they weren't about Theresa Marie Schiavo the person who lived a real life, they were about Terri the symbol. I don't know how that stacks up morally -- if it makes it "OK" in some sense -- but I think it's kind of inevitable.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:12 (nineteen years ago) link

o god stence thank you for reminding me of that site

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:17 (nineteen years ago) link

tears, streaming down my face

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:25 (nineteen years ago) link

omg there's one where darryl strawberry imitates the crackhead from gta: san andreas

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:27 (nineteen years ago) link

WHAT IS UP, DOC?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:28 (nineteen years ago) link

GO JAYS

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:33 (nineteen years ago) link

if only the REAL jim thome were that cool ...

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:35 (nineteen years ago) link

YOU HAVE GOTTEN MORE CHANCES THAN THE MAN WHO INVENTED THE ABSTRACT IDEA OF CHANCE HIMSELF.

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:38 (nineteen years ago) link

ROFFLE

bro jackson (he knows) (deangulberry), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:39 (nineteen years ago) link

do steroids

bro jackson (he knows) (deangulberry), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:39 (nineteen years ago) link

honestly, at first i thought the shit was funny, then the thought of her starving to death creeped me out. they could have killed her in an easier fashion, couldn't they?

apparently starving to death is virtually painless, the only discomfort being dry mouth (in the state she was in, she probably didn't even feel that), which can be alleviated by sucking on ice.

()ops (()()ps), Friday, 1 April 2005 07:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, I hadn't seen/heared any at all.

Then, I saw the "Thread Connections Chunka Chunka" thread...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 1 April 2005 07:54 (nineteen years ago) link

apparently starving to death is virtually painless, the only discomfort being dry mouth

being totally on the pipe helps too. are you kidding?

N_RQ, Friday, 1 April 2005 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

But I've not been offended by any of the jokes / photoshoppings / what-have-yous, just irked. They seem exceptionally cruel.

I thought so too, but I feel like I'm oversensitive to things like that so I usually don't say anything.

Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

so, like, when Jerry Falwell finally snuffs it, we can unload full tilt on his corpse, right?

I really shouldn't read this thread.

The Ghost of SOGGY FALWELL (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe I'm a heartless bitch, but I don't quite get the "respect for the dead" thing. The act of dieing doesn't suddenly turn humans into saints. I've known jerks who died and then everybody was supposed to forget about their faults in life. I realise that it's good to be sensitive towards the loved ones of the deceased, but, frankly, the loved ones of Terry Schiavo brought all this attention on themselves. Any full-blown media circus is fair game for derision. They turned it into a tragedy, and tragedy begs for comedy.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

the loved ones of Terry Schiavo brought all this attention on themselves

her husband?

N_RQ, Friday, 1 April 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Any full-blown media circus is fair game for derision. They turned it into a tragedy, and tragedy begs for comedy.

I think this sums it up nicely, though I agree with most of the posters that most of my derision has been directed toward the protesters, not Terri herself. It sucks what happened to her, but, ya know, it sucks that people die.

sugarpants: kind of blurry, kind of double (sugarpants), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I have to fess up that I don't know the details, because I tried to remain oblivious until I couldn't anymore. Maybe her family or husband didn't bring the attention on themselves, but it didn't seem like they tried to stay out of the limelight either.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link

"Maybe I'm a heartless bitch, but I don't quite get the "respect for the dead" thing."

dude, did you read my post up above? no wonder we are married in real life. we are heartless lovebirds!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

MARIA GET A LIVING WILL

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I have been guilty of this.

"It's occured to me that a lot of the nastiness might be as a distancing mechanism." I think that this is pretty much OTM.

At the risk of sounding callous, and since I don't know any of her family personally and cannot directly cause them grief, I don't think it's all that terrible. It certainly isn't unforeseeable. When I think of the thousands of people here who are going through similar family tragedies, seeing out their Alzheimer's stricken parents or their car crash battered children, when I think of the countless people slowly deterioating from AIDS and other diseases, when I think of the latest Indonesian quake victims or the victims in Darfur, it occurs to me that coping with death is something we all have to face (or ignore) in our own ways, with as much dignity and good humor as we can muster, and that a single death is but a drop in the bucket of our planet's woes.

I was not present when my grandfather died but there was a brief viewing before he was cremated, and I was shocked to find that I went through many different emotions during the breif period we had to say goodbye. At one point, though, we were all laughing as we recalled his many foibles and some of his better bon mots.

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link

BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TOM DELAY OR PEOPLE LIKE NAIRN ACCUSE YOU OF BEING A MONSTER AND CALLING FOR YOUR DEATH ON NATIONAL TV 24/7 DURING THE PROCESS

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

If I did, I think I would take the opportunity to say on national TV that "Tom Delay is a motherfucking cunt. No further comment."

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

being totally on the pipe helps too. are you kidding?

I don't get it.

()ops (()()ps), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

The respect for the dead thing is a red herring, I think - the irksome thing about the photoshopping isn't that she was dying while it happened, it was that she was a person in pain that hadn't actually done *anything at all* to deserve mocking.

I am sort of puzzled that she's this Holy Symbold for the wingnut crowd, but not for its opponents: clearly she should matter just as much to you (symbolically speaking) if you're on her husband's side?

(double xpost)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree wholly, Daniel.

Remy Ulysses Fitzgerald (x Jeremy), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Yesterday, I actually thought for a moment about her husband and parents. Politics aside, her death has to be full of emotions for all of them. I wonder how Michael Schiavo's kids are taking all of this?

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Remy, thanks for this thread.

Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

i hope that michael schiavo sues the LIVING FUCK out of the schindlers for defamation. and though i have ZERO chance of having the opportunity to do so, i would be HONORED to represent him in such a case.

thank you.

Eisbär, Esq. (llamasfur), Friday, 1 April 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

The suggestions that he actually abused/put in a coma Terri were some of the lowest things I have seen in political 'discourse' recently.

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 1 April 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link

are our two choices either bandwagon or high horse? just askin'.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 1 April 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link

being mean can be funny. that's pretty much all there is to it. the basis of 99% of humor is "bad things happening to other people". (the other 1% being ridiculous/surrealistic/dadaist humor a la Monty Python or whoever)

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 1 April 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

That's really a crock of shit, I'm sorry to say.

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Friday, 1 April 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link

prove me wrong then.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 1 April 2005 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Isn't the line, "Humor is tragedy plus time' or something like that?

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 1 April 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

dick jokes and racial jokes. jerry seinfeld. george carlin. eddie murphy.
i could go on.

()ops (()()ps), Friday, 1 April 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I really can't "prove you wrong", prove your statement right. I guess I just don't find that kind of shit as incredibly hilarious as it is v. obvious the rest of ILX does recently. (xpost, thanks oops, add most stand-up comedians, owen wilson buddy flix, TMBG though it's questionable as to whether that's actually funny, etc)

Humor/remembering good things/a joke or two /= the kind of bullshit that's been on this board recently. TERRI SMASH. Uh, yeah, v. funny, genius, hurrah.

BTW those of you using the "this is how I deal with death excuse": uh in what way do you have to "deal" with the deaths of people you don't care about, are not personally acquainted with, don't know v. much about, etc?

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Friday, 1 April 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

my only point is that all comedy is based fundamentally on 1) suffering or 2) total nonsense. Terry Schiavo jokes are no exception. Therefore, getting upset about it (ie, "it isn't funny to laugh at pain!") is essentially saying "humor is not funny!" Ergo, it is a meaningless complaint.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 1 April 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry, I actually wasn't going to weigh in on this debate but after clicking on 4 different threads today (so far) featuring charming rips on people's deaths/illnesses/whathaveyou I'm kind of like at wit's end.

How many of you have a dead relative? Wanna post some pictures of them? Cos I'd like to photoshop their heads into compromising, awful positions, and laugh and laugh and laugh. That'd be really funny, right? That's how I deal with their death. That person, you know, that you care about and I don't know anything about other than they exist and hey, that's funny!

xpost not a meaningless complaint. Maybe the complaint is more like "ACTUALLY BE FUNNY"

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Friday, 1 April 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Isn't the line, "Humor is tragedy plus time' or something like that?

Tragedy + 0 time = 0 humor

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 1 April 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link


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