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After 3 years off the cigs I’ve been smoking again for the last 4 months. Started again as I got a new job and various life circumstances were stressing me. Any advice on quitting again?

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Monday, 23 April 2018 22:57 (six years ago) link

Lame as they are, my e-cig has been a huge help. I only use it at home, still smoke when I drink but that’s barely twice a month now and I figure I’m ready for the next step of eliminating that.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 23 April 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link

If it helps then down for it, thanks

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Monday, 23 April 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Smoked outside merge at the hospital and a robot intercom voice said “smoking is not permitted in hospital grounds. If you need help quitting dial 811”

Ross, Thursday, 10 May 2018 17:42 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

using the nicorette inhaler 4mg to quit smoking. used previously and it worked, basically i get nicotine fixes w/out smoke exhalation, better than the patch - doesn't offend anybody outside, win win

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:17 (six years ago) link

looks like i'm smoking the ocarina of time tho

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 01:17 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

French inhale to nostril exhale is my SOP

calstars, Thursday, 20 December 2018 02:04 (five years ago) link

it's so French isn't it?

I don't get it. I can go without smoking for like a whole day.. Even sometimes two days, and I don't even realise it sometimes. Three days, I can suddenly realise I've not smoked.
If I have a drink, I want to smoke. But yesterday I went on a date with a non-smoker and didn't even think to go outside and light up until the very end of the date. Then I realised I'd forgotten my rolling papers and figured it wasn't too much of a problem as I'd be home in a bit anyway.
And yet I do smoke; I am a smoker. I have been since my early 20s.
I don't like smoking in front of my family, who I'll be visiting in a few days for a week. Until recently they didn't really know I smoked. My colleagues too, are sometimes surprised on the rare occasion I go out for a midday cig break.
And yet, as I say, I am a smoker and I am addicted to cigarettes and always have been.
On an ordinary weekend night out, I'll be going out for breaks maybe once or twice an hour or more. Part of it is ritual, habit. A big part of it is an excuse to get a change of atmosphere, like if the indoors gets too crowded or noisy, it's an excuse to leave.

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 20 December 2018 11:00 (five years ago) link

Yeah smoking outside of pubs just created its own enjoyable rituals.

I don't smoke now except when I'm drinking but I think the massive nicotine spike is a big part of the dying element in my hangovers and I'm going to have to, unwillingly, try and cut it out

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 December 2018 11:05 (five years ago) link

yes definitely worse for hangovers.

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 20 December 2018 11:10 (five years ago) link

a friend of mine blames the public smoking ban on his brother's death. He suffered from schizophrenia and in the secure housing building he lived, the communal smoking room was his main social hub. Without it they all just smoked in their own rooms and he started drinking much more heavily on his own, till it took him.

calzino, Thursday, 20 December 2018 11:13 (five years ago) link

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(Sorry. So sorry.)

Loggins and Rogers and G are...K3NNY (Old Lunch), Thursday, 20 December 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link

I have like 10 packs of cigarettes at home from the times over the years when I've bought a pack, smoked a couple, then just forgot about it for awhile

calstars, Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

The kids don't smoke anymore! They vape or smoke weed.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

my gf and i both started vaping to stop smoking habits which were mainly connected to drinking, with the odd cigarette here or there at other times. kind of a mistake because of course it's way more tempting, in the vancouver winter, to have a pull on your vaporizer while nice and cozy indoors, than it ever was to go out the front of the building for a dart. there's also something about the feeling of smoking that vaping doesn't really replace. oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

yeah I'm not making the switch to juul specifically because I know I would consume more nicotine simply by being able to juul inside. feel good about smoking 4-5 analogs a day as is.

flappy bird, Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Are people smoking more now? Less? I'm smoking more. More free time, more need for small-but-satisfying pick-me-ups throughout the day.

My tobacco tale is one of gateway drug in reverse, because I smoked weed my whole life and hated cigarettes, but after a few trips to Europe and the realization that spliffs are awesome (and a far more sensible and grown-ass way to get high), I gradually began putting less and less weed in a spliff until 3 out of every four 'spliffs' was basically just a cig. I've only ever smoked ryo because it keeps me from smoking more (I average about 4-5 a day, skipping days here and there if I feel my throat getting dry or scratchy) and I find the rolling ritual very meditative.

Peter Stokkebye tobacco has spoiled me for all others. I used to just buy Bugler because it was cheap, and the light blue American Spirits when I was feeling spendy, but now I can't bear anything but the best. I'm all about the Stockholm Blend and the Turkish Export. Not so into the Danish Export or Amsterdam Shag, both of which I find a bit too moist, and I don't have the patience to dry out rolling tobacco.

So...more? Less?

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 4 May 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link

Initially, I found myself smoking more. Then I realised that the lack of many of the usual social triggers, coupled with the relative calmness of my particular lockdown life, made this an ideal time to stop. So I stopped. This is Day 8.

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 May 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link

Less but only bc I'm at home more, I like smoking cigarettes and walking. I very much believe in the David Hockney theory of between 1 and 5 cigarettes per day is actually good against the virus, given that it settles in the bottom of the lungs.

flappy bird, Monday, 4 May 2020 19:49 (four years ago) link

if you can't trust David Hockney who can you trust

silby, Monday, 4 May 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link

sayin

flappy bird, Monday, 4 May 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link

I have not heard this theory but I will look into it now, if only for an excuse to keep smoking

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 4 May 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link

I only smoke when I’m out drinking with friends so the last time I had a cigarette was a couple of months ago. I’m hoping it’ll stay that way even post-lockdown.

pomenitul, Monday, 4 May 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link

No smoking, no vaping since this shit kicked off

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 4 May 2020 20:38 (four years ago) link

Vaping more than ever. Working from home is the culprit.

There seems to be no indication that smokers are more susceptible- if you havent developed copd, emphysema etc. yet. Even anecdotal evidence that smokers are underrepresented in the figures

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 May 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link

well, David Hockney knew from bottoms

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 May 2020 20:55 (four years ago) link

It's probably dubious science but I did find something from last month that suggested smokers might actually be better protected against de-oxygenation because of higher levels of ACEs. And trying to find it, I stumbled over this newer source: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86144

A recently published study from France showed similar figures. Daily smokers accounted for 4.4% to 5.3% of all COVID-19 infections, which compares to 25.4% of the overall French population who smoke. That study also noted an increase in the proportion of smokers with severe illness. These authors did not mince words in their conclusion which "strongly suggests that daily smokers have a very much lower probability of developing symptomatic or severe SARS-CoV-2 infection as compared to the general population."

I'm still smoking, but less. I slowed myself down and I reduced the amt of time I spend in situations where I would normally smoke.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link

Me, I still one a day after dinner. I get disappointed when I crack and on my wine-with-lunch day (Friday usually) I light one. I like anticipatory vices.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:20 (four years ago) link

This is the best news

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 04:36 (four years ago) link

Well, huge respect for Hockney's medical knowledge, but (a) the virus enters via the *upper* respiratory tract (pharynx) which is why it spreads asymptomatically, and (b) tobacco smoke increases the chance of a viral infection by inflaming tissue and making the surface more permeable.
https://www.tobaccoinaustralia.org.au/chapter-3-health-effects/3-9-increased-susceptibility-to-infection-in-smoke
(it's literally the same argument as Trump's "can we get disinfectant into the body or the lungs?" by the way)

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 05:10 (four years ago) link

It's true, there's a lot we don't know

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 05:31 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

French inhalin’
nose exhalin’

calstars, Saturday, 2 January 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link

anybody else that moved mostly/entirely to working from home also inadvertently or otherwise quit smoking since March? a bonus I didn't even have to try for. Smoking without walking is not the same

flappy bird, Sunday, 3 January 2021 06:59 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

I was smoking a couple a day and sometimes much more for months now and was finding myself unable to concentrate and irritable which I'd attribute to a burgeoning nicotine addiction that wasn't being fed enough. So I have took up vaping now and am fair enjoying it. I'm quite surprised at how fast I've taken to blueberry flavoured smoke.

calzino, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

The deep freeze last week made me happy that I gave up smokes. The last time I tried smoking in single-digit temperatures on a trip to NY, it was absolutely not worth it.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link

shit now I'm a slave to an electric device that gives me nicotine. It has completely nullified my fiending for cigarettes but it feels like a backwards step compared to when I properly kicked the habit. Vaping is quite pleasurable though, but i just wish I hadn't been foolish enough to start the habit again.

calzino, Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

I’ve never smoked. Should I start? My partner would probably break up with me but people sure look cool when they do it.

Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link

i've been at it 30 years and my advice to you, silby, is no

sarahell, Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:38 (three years ago) link

That’s what everyone says and I’ve taken their advice so far

Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:39 (three years ago) link

silby, plz don't, thx.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:39 (three years ago) link

it's a lot easier to start than is to stop. I've stopped 3 times in the last 30 years and it gets harder each time!

calzino, Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:42 (three years ago) link

I’ve been meaning to start for at least 20 years now

calstars, Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:45 (three years ago) link

try it, it's cool

superdeep borehole (harbl), Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link

I still find it impossible to drink/party without lighting one up. It's not ideal by any means, but I haven't smoked on a daily basis since my mid-20s (a couple of brief summer vacations notwithstanding).

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:48 (three years ago) link

I don't understand how people can just have the odd leisure cigarette without the creeping addiction, but my partner has one cig a week or something and often docks it half smoked. For me it's always a slippery slope towards 20 a day.

calzino, Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:51 (three years ago) link

And by 'drink' I mean 'have more than 2-3 pints', otherwise I can abstain just fine.

xp

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:52 (three years ago) link

What 'helps' is that it automatically makes feel like shit. I can't cope with that for more than a few days at a time anymore.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link

If I'm drinking with friends, it's an 'ah, fuck it'-type scenario where I figure I might as well go the extra sacrificial mile, since I'm already messing up my liver. But otherwise it's all downsides for me.

pomenitul, Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:56 (three years ago) link

yeah when aren't a seasoned smoker it really does often make you feel like shit. But when addiction creeps in you are still counting the minutes till your next fix.

calzino, Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link

I weaned myself off cigarettes by vaping, then eventually quit

I had a hard time with cravings after I quit, but years later I don't think about it too much. there is an ongoing dull desire, but it's not very strong at this point

Dan S, Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link


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