Avengers: Infinity War

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agreed on the serial narrative thread, mostly so I can complain about the idea Odysseus wasn't in a bunch of spinoffs and fan fic

mh, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link

canonicity is such a weird idea. these are all made up stories, yet some are "more real" than others. it's a weird concept, something inherent in mass media from the days when it was primarily religious in nature. apocryphal works, fan works, etc., there has always been this struggle to define some kind of objective mythical reality

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:18 (six years ago) link

i went in

Canon fodder: serial fiction and how it works

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:24 (six years ago) link

Dr. Who kind of faces the same problems, when every season involves universe-threatening monsters destroying all of time, yet you know the mains will always survive, somehow.

Sara Kingdom and Katarina can't come to the phone right now

chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link

they won't even turn out to be other kinds of crowd-pleasers like rom-coms or disaster movies or buddy cop movies (though they may have flavorings of all these things, waiting for fans to declare that, shocker, i've realized this one IS REALLY A whatever type movie).


Doctor Strange’s origin story could have been told as a remix of The Paper Chase, though.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 April 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link

Kinda hope at a point that they just start spinning a wheel to figure out their approach to these things. She-Hulk as Méliès silent film. Moon Knight as non-diagetic Malickian meditation. Alpha Flight as '70s porno flick.

Meet me at the dancin'! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 April 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link

SASQUATCH GENDER SWAP GOES HERE

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 April 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link

lol I meant to put “JOKE” in the middle of that but it works fine as the storyboard panel nobody was sure how to draw

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 April 2018 22:46 (six years ago) link

The only review you need:

https://youtu.be/tH2w6Oxx0kQ

latebloomer, Friday, 27 April 2018 03:40 (six years ago) link

so so so many plot holes and conveniences but if you grew up reading comic books the special effects and fight scenes are totally worth it

here is my question: why does billionaire tech giant tony stark have a flip phone?

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 27 April 2018 13:15 (six years ago) link

from the sound of things, this seems pretty cool. focuses mostly on galactic space monster? cool. fight scenes are just costumes superheros throwing colorful orbs of light at each other? im down for that.

i dont need every flick to move me on an emotional or intellectual level. usually Marvel has been pretty good at knowing what they are doing and being fine with that (DC in contrast is flailingly silly while screaming "Take us seriously!!!")

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 27 April 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link

I'd guess Tony Stark thinks that flip phones are cool? Though if the first movie is set in 2008, maybe Stark hates that fucker Jobs and everything he brought in?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 27 April 2018 13:41 (six years ago) link

he's been a playboy CEO for twenty years and iron man for ten, guy is into his IDGAF old dude swag phase.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 27 April 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link

between that and nick fury's old school 'captain marvel paging' blackberry something seems a little tricky with the timeline(s)

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 27 April 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link

A'ight, if the spoilers are starting in earnest I am outta here.

a REAL SCARIE robot!!!! (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 April 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link

me too, i'll be back in eight hours or so once i've seen it

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 April 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link

these aren't spoilers. micro-minor details that give zero away, promise

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 27 April 2018 15:04 (six years ago) link

Really enjoyed the film and looking forward to the 2nd part.

There is one post credits scene, thought there was a habit of there being like 3 interspersed with titles.
Saw it in 3D which i haven't done in a while.
Think I might go and see it again.

But way out of step with the comics. Did this tie in with a comic arc that is 27 years old or something?

Stevolende, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link

It was fun seeing lots of the team ups but possibly the darkest Marvel movie there's been.

Great that there was a real sense of all the previous MCU movies coming together to this point. (Although not really sure what was going on with Banner/Hulk but imagine that will be resolved in part 2).

Assuming Captain Marvel and the second Ant Man movie won't advance the plot any further so glad the next one's out in 12 months time.

groovypanda, Friday, 27 April 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

xp yeah but the Marvel Cinematic Universe is different enough that only the broad strokes are the same

Nhex, Friday, 27 April 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

Capt. Marvel is set in the 90s, I believe Ant Man 2 will be set before IW

this movie was great btw, man i love this shit i cannot lie

Nhex, Friday, 27 April 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link

There was a line somewhere about how Ant Man and the Wasp will be the movie most tied into Infinity War, but that might just be an attempt to drum up enthusiasm.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 27 April 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

I believe Ant Man 2 will be set before IW

I wondered about this. I'm curious to what extent they're going to import the more audience-antagonizing elements of DC & Marvel's narrative/revenue-generation strategies. It's already amusing seeing explainers about the prerequisites for a massive tentpole movie--are they going to embrace confusing/multiple timelines or giant continuity resets?

rob, Friday, 27 April 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link

very seldom do I see a scene, think “ah yes, perfect ending” and it actually ends up being the last

this movie breaks that trend

mh, Friday, 27 April 2018 17:49 (six years ago) link

Yeah, end scene was great.

It was noticeable that Ant Man wasn't in this movie so assume his will be maybe standalone with some Infinity War stuff in the last 15 minutes or so.

groovypanda, Friday, 27 April 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link

Flip phone stood out to me too, but I figured there was some in universe reason for it I was forgetting

Number None, Friday, 27 April 2018 18:18 (six years ago) link

Loved this but it broke my heart

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 April 2018 19:00 (six years ago) link

Steve Rogers didnt have a 555 number

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 April 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link

It's already amusing seeing explainers about the prerequisites for a massive tentpole movie...

― rob, Friday, April 27, 2018

sure, but the explainers exist not because they're needed but because a massive tentpole release offers the opportunity to coattail-ride for cheap clicks

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 27 April 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link

steve only accepts calls from specific burners

mh, Friday, 27 April 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

Really did not expect one of the six stones to be Dirk Diggler's cockring

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 April 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link

this was fun - did as good a job as it could have in moving a hell of a lot of pieces around the board and there are some awesome moments - but def felt like half a movie

no idea where they go from here tho which is great - feels like the next one will be the more satisfying story

one massive problem with thanos’ motivation: if he wants to kill half the universe only to save limited resources, why not er just use the reality stone to make more resources?

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 April 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link

half a movie my ass, my fave protagonist went through a lot of trials and great sacrifice to succeed despite everyone being against him

I support them just rolling with this as the new status quo

mh, Friday, 27 April 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link

did as good a job as it could have in moving a hell of a lot of pieces around the board and there are some awesome moments - but def felt like half a movie

this is funny/sad to read since they made a big deal out of not calling this and the fourth one "Infinity War Pt. I and II"

already seeing the "this movie promotes the overpopulation myth" take which honestly seems fair

Simon H., Friday, 27 April 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

eh fuck off with that because, as the baiting the ridiculous stoned guy conversations went with some friends, humans could grow much much larger! we use our planet’s resources inefficiently, could harness the power of the sun in a dyson sphere, make things better and continue growing

thanos doesn’t believe these things at a galactic scale, and that’s a different thing and I support his non-discriminatory quest

mh, Saturday, 28 April 2018 02:02 (six years ago) link

it’s like asking how many people he could provide for by dispersing his army and deciding not to have war machines. huge galaxy, no real impact

mh, Saturday, 28 April 2018 02:03 (six years ago) link

flip phone was the burner cap posts tony at the end of civil war

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 28 April 2018 02:56 (six years ago) link

tbc I do not support "the world is overpopulated" rhetoric at all

Simon H., Saturday, 28 April 2018 04:26 (six years ago) link

Couldn't see this last night as it was totally sold out near me.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 28 April 2018 07:54 (six years ago) link

world is overpopulated, QED

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 28 April 2018 08:35 (six years ago) link

Ain't lookin' at a word y'all have posted until after I see this in a few hours. One last prediction: movie ends with the 'SNAP!' from the comics and a whole lotta people die in one fell swoop. And those who die in this one will be resurrected in part 4, which means anyone who survives this movie is fair game for a legitimate death in the next.

Back in a bit to see how wrong I was!

a REAL SCARIE robot!!!! (Old Lunch), Saturday, 28 April 2018 11:36 (six years ago) link

i think the thing i appreciated most about this is how well it captured the vibe of that rarest of comic-book events: a giant crossover story that makes sense and is fun to read

also, having suffered through justice league a while back, it’s remarkable how well josh brolin’s performance is captured in an all-cg character when poor ciaran hinds ended up as such a videogame-cutscene level steppenwolf

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 28 April 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link

still not sure what I think about a certain character appearing during Thanos’s side trip to pick up a stone. unexpected but kind of intriguing

mh, Saturday, 28 April 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link

tied up a nice loose end, i thought, although his accent seemed less hilariously ott than it did in his first appearance

speaking of paying things off, i loved that rocket’s well-established fetish for stealing prosthetics got a practical resolution in this one

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 28 April 2018 14:29 (six years ago) link

raccoon and a wolf, who’d have thought

mh, Saturday, 28 April 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link

i asked rufus how he liked this and he said: "it was great. i only fell asleep once."

which is high praise from him. #teens #needmoresleep

scott seward, Saturday, 28 April 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link

kinda aggravated that I missed about 7 key minutes during my first viewing (seen twice now) because nature called (as it often does for me) with about 45 minutes to go. Went to the first men's room - yellow tape indicating it is closed for cleaning. Second (and only other) men's room - same thing (with guy visibly cleaning it!).

went back to the first one and just crawled under the tape and pissed anyway. I missed a pretty key moment that I fortunately got to see the second time.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 April 2018 17:36 (six years ago) link

peed after I reached the urinal first obv

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 April 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link

also loved the # of impalings in this movie

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 April 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

i was surprised by how gruesome the big strangling scene early on was - it was pretty graphic

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 28 April 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link


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