the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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This lovely person is the tory candidate for my ward

Got an advert for the @Conservatives through the door today. Checked out the twitter feed of one of the candidates, and, oh... (thread) pic.twitter.com/5I75gOd8pW

— Pete Wilson (@peterkwilson) April 25, 2018

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 27 April 2018 08:52 (six years ago) link

Lest we forget Jared O'Mara stepped down for having an equally as offensive/unpleasant social media record, but different rules or something.

calzino, Friday, 27 April 2018 09:01 (six years ago) link

the craziest thing about that is he sounds like a bitter 50-year-old divorcee but he was.... 18 when he tweeted all that????

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 April 2018 09:02 (six years ago) link

Apparently this is yesterday's news, and they've found tweets calling a 12-year-old mother a "dirty slag", defending Ian Watkins and, yes, attacking Jared O'Mara for bad tweeting, and now he's been suspended from the party.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 27 April 2018 09:05 (six years ago) link

One of my local candidates is the co-chairwoman of controversial group Jewish Voice For Labour. She's been in the papers recently for antisemitic comments, obviously she is Jewish herself but I wouldn't be comfortable with some of the things she's said if they came from someone who wasn't Jewish. "Jews are often agents of exploitation" isn't differentiating Jews from the actions of Israel imo. That's if that quote is accurate I suppose, it's from the Times and the article is paywalled so you can only see that bit.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 27 April 2018 09:06 (six years ago) link

jesus, I didn't realise those Labour Harbouring Holocaust Deniers vans in London was a thing.

calzino, Friday, 27 April 2018 09:24 (six years ago) link

We're gonna need a longer van.

nashwan, Friday, 27 April 2018 09:29 (six years ago) link

I'd propose sending out some "Fuck Ken Livingstone, the absolute fucking clown" vans out there, but it might be counterproductive.

calzino, Friday, 27 April 2018 09:40 (six years ago) link

Meanwhile QT invites the likes of this guy to the audience:

#bbcqt gave Johnathan Jennings a reserved seat (he was in place before the audience was let in) and a guaranteed question with Racist undertones.

Jennings is now on Bail awaiting Trial for 10 (Ten) Racial Hatred Offences.#bbcqt - You no longer have integrity or relevancy. pic.twitter.com/QKXKHIsyZc

— Far Right Watch (@Far_Right_Watch) April 26, 2018

Thread says he wasn’t on last night but recently. Anyone see him?

gyac, Friday, 27 April 2018 09:47 (six years ago) link

the royal baby is named louis arthur charles

naming your kid after the guy on the throne during the french revolution is a bold move, it's like they want us to storm the palace and lead the entire royal family to the guillotines

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 April 2018 10:09 (six years ago) link

are they all called arthur or is it me?

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 April 2018 10:11 (six years ago) link

cockney rhyming slang?

calzino, Friday, 27 April 2018 10:15 (six years ago) link

what a bunch of J Arthur's

calzino, Friday, 27 April 2018 10:17 (six years ago) link

there have only ever been about four names for european kings, regardless of country

charles
philip
louis
henry

in england you can add in james and george

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 April 2018 10:25 (six years ago) link

yeah, it's not just the gene pool that's shallow

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 April 2018 10:28 (six years ago) link

Abbott says no to a long-term illegal immigrant amnesty but doesn't really explain why, beyond wanting to downplay that as it's not the issue re Windrush.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-43920554/question-time-should-there-be-amnesty-for-illegal-immigrants

But puzzled as to why Dimbleby raised it at all as AFAIK Johnson has not renewed his (phony) call for it from ten years ago, or has he?

nashwan, Friday, 27 April 2018 10:41 (six years ago) link

probably trying to set a trap.

calzino, Friday, 27 April 2018 10:44 (six years ago) link

Labour has absolutely nothing to lose and a lot to gain by purging anyone making antisemitic comments from the party and it doesn't make sense that seemingly no one has been after nearly a month.

Matt DC, Friday, 27 April 2018 11:12 (six years ago) link

Yeah, that fills me with dread.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 27 April 2018 11:17 (six years ago) link

Anyway, first comment hall of fame.

Anybody any good at making placards? Asking for a friend. https://t.co/dUAamyBT8s

— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) April 26, 2018

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 27 April 2018 11:17 (six years ago) link

how do we really know which louis the new royal was named after

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 11:22 (six years ago) link

it's happened now, Matt - Marc Wadsworth is out

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 April 2018 11:44 (six years ago) link

and it doesn't make sense that seemingly no one has been after nearly a month.

The disciplinary process seems incredibly bureaucratic and hopefully this is something Formby can change.

They probably have to follow procedure to avoid the risk of legal challenges esp in cases like this where they don’t want things dragging on and on.

gyac, Friday, 27 April 2018 11:47 (six years ago) link

*blinks* pic.twitter.com/4ZEpAN3RfF

— taisie (@TaisieT) April 27, 2018


the Lolico brain whirrs into action again, oh dear!

calzino, Friday, 27 April 2018 12:24 (six years ago) link

'i've never seen a study of this effect'

jings, i wonder why

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 April 2018 12:31 (six years ago) link

lolico getting into race science via jordan peterson is... something i guess

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 April 2018 12:32 (six years ago) link

I'm sorry for bringing that cursed name to this thread, but it is sure something!

calzino, Friday, 27 April 2018 12:37 (six years ago) link

Hello, please have this GIF of Peter Hitchens losing an award to Matthew Parris pic.twitter.com/uRNPhy5Pr8

— Thomas Colson (@tpgcolson) April 26, 2018

nashwan, Friday, 27 April 2018 12:51 (six years ago) link

tfw the other bald man wins the comb

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 April 2018 13:02 (six years ago) link

Wadsworth being charged with bringing the party into disrepute rather than antisemitism directly. Clear as mud.

nashwan, Friday, 27 April 2018 13:11 (six years ago) link

His outburst pretty much ruined a launch event and ensured hostile media talked about that and not the Chakrabati Report. He could have made all the same points and observations afterward (it is not antisemitic to say an MP appears to be a contact of a Telegraph reporter) without starting a row that did bring Labour into disrepute.

suzy, Friday, 27 April 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link

Chris Williamson is a total idiot + liability and it is only matter of time before he says something idiotic on RT or summat. Somebody put a muzzle on him at least until May 3rd has passed.

calzino, Friday, 27 April 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link

Amber Rudd's bad fortnight continues
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/27/amber-rudd-was-told-about-migrant-removal-targets-leak-reveals

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 27 April 2018 13:52 (six years ago) link

is there a full transcript online anywhere of what Wadsworth actually said at the Chakrabarti Inquiry event? There's a clip of some of it here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHv3D7g4RH4

this is the description on Wadsworth's wiki page

At a launch, to which the media were invited, on 30 June 2016 for the publication of the Chakrabarti Inquiry report into allegations of antisemitism and racism in the Labour Party, Daily Telegraph journalist Kate McCann questioned Jeremy Corbyn about a "Momentum member" handing out a "leaflet" calling for the deselection of anti-Corbyn MPs. Wadsworth had earlier given McCann a copy of his "press release" at her request. In response to the question about him, Wadsworth responded by publicly stating that he saw the Telegraph journalist handing a copy of the press release to Labour MP Ruth Smeeth, and thus claimed to have spotted who was "working hand in hand", a reference to anti-Corbyn Labour MPs colluding with the right-wing press.

Most of Wadsworth's brief comments, captured on a minute-long widely publicised video, were about the under-representation of Africans, Caribbeans and Asians at the launch, about which Corbyn told the meeting he agreed.

handing out leaflets at this event calling for deselection probably not helpful, but it seems unfair to characterise this as an 'outburst' - I think Wadsworth is entitled to reply to the comments made by McCann, and entitled to make the point about the lack of black people at the event, given that the terms of reference for the Chakrabarti Inquiry were explicitly to look at all forms of racism, not just anti-semitism. imo setting the inquiry up this was a mistake, and as many ppl said at the time Corbyn should have set up a report looking exclusively at anti-semitism in Labour, extending the brief to all forms of racism just looked like an attempt to muddy the waters, but given that he didn't Wadsworth had every right to make the points he did. Unless there's something that I'm missing, it seems like Wadsworth has been treated in a pretty shabby fasion here? (are there other examples of him saying or doing anything problematic apart from this incident at the report launch)

soref, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link

there seems to be something dubious and implicitly racist about the way a number of accounts of this describe Wadsworth as behaving in an 'aggressive' or 'threatening' manner, which don't really seem to be borne out by the evidence

soref, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

xp should say "imo setting the inquiry up this WAY was a mistake"

soref, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:33 (six years ago) link

there have only ever been about four names for european kings, regardless of country

charles
philip
louis
henry

in england you can add in james and george

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), 27. april 2018 12:25 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

come on!

Frederik B, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link

lol

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:23 (six years ago) link

i'm not counting the palatinate dawg

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link

So what price Rudd resigning and being replaced by a returning...Patel? Too soon? Can't go on "holiday" abroad if you're the Home Sec! /smartguyjpeg

nashwan, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DburcEqX4AA2GGT.jpg

plax (ico), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link

Much too soon, I’d guess.

iirc she misled May as well as the press initially, or that was the line they took.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 27 April 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link

In my defence it legit feels like several years have passed since Patel agreed to resign.

nashwan, Friday, 27 April 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

It really does.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 27 April 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link

being talked up as a future Tory leader prospect is almost a guarantee your political career is fucked these days!

calzino, Friday, 27 April 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

Whitehall source: “Permanent Secretary at home office speaking with senior officials. Likely changing of the guard.”

— Lucy Fisher (@LOS_Fisher) April 27, 2018

calzino, Friday, 27 April 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link

There isn't much bench strength right now is there? Unless she's going to promote Javid or Esther McV. Or (fucking hell) Gove or Hunt.

Matt DC, Friday, 27 April 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

I don't think Esther will be moving anywhere else soon, not while the DWP has become the Zone Rouge of departments that nobody wants and if you are already completely toxic like her, there is no rep to protect.

Javid sounds credible.

calzino, Friday, 27 April 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link

2/4 I wasn't aware of specific removal targets. I accept I should have been and I'm sorry that I wasn't.

— Amber Rudd MP (@AmberRuddHR) April 27, 2018

Add “thread tweets” to the list of things Rudd is incapable of.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link


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