Avengers: Infinity War

the Threads of superhero films

.,..if you knew Threads 2: Still Threadin' was coming in 12 months to undo most of the radiation poisoning, sure.

Things I liked:

- that it spent time with the characters before throwing them into action, unlike the last Avengers ie Ultron which was like “lala party oh hey a new robot aaand GO”

- Gamora/Ultron story was v affecting imo. Not so much the Ultron part but Gamora’s. esp with the Nebula scene

- Spidey’s Prototype 17A spacesuit was p dope

- “Kick names. Take ass.”

Am on the fence about:

- the tone of the Guardians or maybe just Starlord in particular felt a little sleazy or something, it wasn’t quite right. Minor quibble tho.

Things I didn’t like:

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P. sure my wife is suffering PTSD from this movie.

Nebula as a Damien Hirst installation was extremely O_O

I managed to make it til tonight more or less totally blind (aside from reading the original comics), so everything beyond what was in the trailer (and expectations from the original comics) came as total surprise to me. Ergo, I thought this was pretty great, more or less what I've been hoping for from a lot of these movies, which is something closer to what I remember as a kid reading this stories, crossover issues and limited series and melodrama and dramatic deaths and all. Faked out more than a few times, too. I know I wasn't the only one expecting Death only to get that other character.

I like how some characters have powers so limitless even they don't know their limits. Though there are still a couple characters in this MCU whose powers remain kind of vague to me.

here is my question: why does billionaire tech giant tony stark have a flip phone?

I thought this was pretty clearly an ironic billionaire tech giant has old flip phone joke? I mean, I chuckled.

it’s a burner, have you guys never seen a crime show

you buy a bunch, then program their numbers into each other. no one knows where or when you bought them and you use them one time, and only to call the other burners. you never turn it on before you use it, so no tracking

even with Stark’s tech it’d be hard to track, and he probably wouldn’t due to honor. the government/registration act types had none of them

yeah it’s like the least interesting thing in the movie! watch a Wire once in awhile :D

i didnt know before this that Bruce & Hulk talked to each other

imo hulk’s prob burned out from 24/7 hulking out on Planet Jeff Goldblum in Ragnarok. i get it buddy

Guys, Captain America mailed Stark the burner at the end of Civil War after they had their big rasslin' match. I'm really embarrassed that you can't remember a minor plot point from a two-year-old movie.

also this ^

(NB, I rewatched Civil War like a week ago, and I otherwise never would have remembered that plot point.)

Hulk performance anxiety were funny. Lots of jokes in this were funny.

needed more Carrie Coon

I love her, but I think we got enough of her.

v glad to see her getting that MCU $$$

They pulled so much stuff off with this movie that I don't put anything past them at this point, but ... are they planning to introduce Captain Marvel *and* Adam Warlock in the next movie? My only guess is that they will sort of combine Marvel and Warlock, for convenience sake, even though they've hinted at Warlock in previous MCU movies. The fact that they got rid (as expected) of some of the more abstract cosmic stuff (like Death, or Mephisto, or Infinity, et al.) shows they have no problem focusing the scope/scale a little tighter, and they've said outright that Captain Marvel will be the most powerful being introduced in the movies to date, which inflates her already considerable powers in the comics, right?

Warlock will happen but not until Guardians 3 (the only hint of his arrival/existence thus far was a shot of his cocoon and a mention of his name in the post-credits scene of GotG 2). There's only room enough for one superhero ex machina in the next Avengers film, so it'll have to be the one who has her own feature-length proof of concept on the way.

I know it feels wrong for Warlock to be MIA given how integral he (not to mention the equally-absent Silver Surfer) is to the comic version of the story, but I've learned to roll with the MCU's alternate take on things at this point. Besides, we're gonna need some folks to keep WATCH over those INFINITY gems once this is all over (wink wink), so I'm sure there will be a place for him.

It only occurred to me for the first time yesterday that, personality-wise, Rocket is kind of a Pip stand-in in the MCU (if those in the know feel like making predictions about what happens to all those magical glove Skittles).

Oh btw i really enjoyed Dinklage <3

most personal wtf moment in this was the scene with wanda and the vision in scotland cuz i bought the first issue of infinity war in 1991 at deadhead comics, just around the corner from where that scene was filmed in edinburgh

also lol at the visible 'we will deep-fry your kebab' notice in a shop window in one shot - truly a flavour of the real scotland right there

Oh btw i really enjoyed Dinklage <3

― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 April 2018 05:03 (four hours ago)

that voice! im not sure if it was meant to be intentionally funny or not but i did chuckle a few times at it

dinklage and hemworth scenes did threaten to descend into battle of the unconvincing cod-english accents but yeah he was good value

i bet whoever thought to cast dinklage as a giant dwarf was very pleased with themselves when they came up with the idea

Yeah, that was actually genius. I thought he would be Pip.

Thanos should totally win the Nobel Peace Prize for reuniting the Avengers.

imo hulk’s prob burned out from 24/7 hulking out on Planet Jeff Goldblum in Ragnarok. i get it buddy

Plus he got his ass good and thoroughly kicked for the first time ever by Thanos and probably wasn't eager to try a second time.

yeah, the little whimper the hulk lets out after thanos cracks him in the jaw for the first time was surprisingly affecting!

speaking of the opening scene, are we to assume that valkyrie and korg and miek and the rest of the crew of thor's ship are all dead now after it blew up?

the tone of the Guardians or maybe just Starlord in particular felt a little sleazy or something, it wasn’t quite right. Minor quibble tho.

veg otm about this btw, something about chris pratt really rubbed me the wrong way in this one - maybe it's just his shtick is getting thin or maybe it's the moustache, but he was definitely more on the wrong end of the loveable rogue - cocky dipshit spectrum this time out

drax remains a delight, tho - dave bautista is such a great deadpan weirdo

I assume so, if Heimdahl is dead it seems the rest of them are as well. Which is one of the darkest things the MCU has done! That makes Thor literally the only surviving Asgardian.

Hulk in the last Thor movie is so Hulk he doesn't want to be Banner ever again. It takes work, but they finally convince Banner to come out again. Then when they need Hulk they need Banner to become Hulk, but there is the express concern that Hulk might be permanent. I forget whether the movie ends with Hulk Hulk or Banner, but clearly he is Banner again by this movie. Maybe Hulk is just sick of the constant indecision? Be Hulk! Don't be Hulk! No, be Hulk again! And Hulk is all, I'm getting too old for this shit.

holy shit xxxpost I don't remember hearing it but I read elsewhere that there was a line about Thanos killing half the people on the ship (as is his wont) so I'd wager that some of them managed to escape. Almost certain they wouldn't have killed the heroes from two movies ago offscreen.

One of my many predictions is that (at least some of) the Asgardians are going to be resurrected and New Asgard will be on earth where Odin died immediately after being all 'hey sons, check this place out, pretty sweet huh, hint hint'.

well, as someone else pointed out itt, any deaths in this one are likely to be wiped out next time around - it's the deaths in the sequel which are likely to stick

(That was me.)

new asgard seems real likely, yeah

my wife pointed out that doc strange's willingness to give up the time gem, and his justification that this was the way it had to be, must be because when he looked into the divergent timelines this is what happened in the only timeline where the heroes win

woulda been a lot less hassle for everyone if you'd just outright said that tho, doc, c'mon

you otm xp

Yeah, Doc Strange knows how this ends, but he's mum on spoilers.

There are a few deaths that seem permanent in this one. There are a few (like Loki) that get an asterisk because he's been "dead" before (like Red Skull). Gamora, she's clearly existing in soul world or whatever, so she can be freed.

I told me daughter after the movie that the comics have all been going on for so long that virtually every permutation has occurred. Everyone's dead! Everyone's back! Multiple people have been Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, Spider-man, etc. Multiple universes! Multiple dimensions! That's what I sort of appreciate about the never ending stream of Marvel movies. Like, of course it's never ending! There have been thousands and thousands of issues and stories and sidelines and characters etc. It never ends!

peter parker's exit is still haunting me :(

It's pretty sad. Black Panther shocked several people near me. I mean, that movie is still in theaters!

Strange can't hip Thanos to his plan, man! He's gotta keep it to himself for now.

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I think Heimdall is gone (if only because I believe Eldra has been a kinda begrudging participant in the MCU), but the Warriors Three were dispatched just way too easily in Ragnarok so they'll be back. Where the eff is Sif even at, come to think of it?

Gamora has taken up residence in the Soul Gem a la Warlock (and, tbf, a la Gamora in the comics). Vision gonna get fixed and turn white. Loki? Who knows. Probably back, but not for a while.

Cap and/or Stark are toast in the next one.

And as I hinted upthread, upon a second viewing of the first Captain America movie, it became clear that Red Skull didn't die. He was 'disintegrated' by the Tesseract but in a totally different way than the people who'd been obliterated by the Tesseract beforehand. I knew he was coming back eventually (and, given Weaving's vocal lack of interest in reprising the role, that he's be recast).

Re: Stark, they've been playing up his PTSD since the first Avengers, but I forget - did he see something specific that sort of bonded him with Thanos? Why does Thanos know who he but apparently no one else? I guess he knows of Thor and Loki already, right?

Also, friends and I have been guessing that the reason Marvel is mum on much past the next couple of movies is the at least distinct possibility that they will get the rights to Fantastic Four/Doom/Silver Surfer, X-Men, et al. Gotta leave some wiggle room.

Vision gonna get fixed and turn white

when he died i was convinced his corpse was gonna be white

when he does go full returned-gandalf they're not gonna need to use makeup on paul bettany's face and hands because he is the pastiest motherfucker who ever lived

cap is definitely a goner in the next one, i think, probably seconds after mending fences with tony. but who will be cap next - bucky or sam?

did he see something specific that sort of bonded him with Thanos? Why does Thanos know who he but apparently no one else?

tony has a weird dream / flash-forward during age of ultron where he sees all his teammates dead on a ruined planet out in space, which kinda foreshadows his first meeting with thanos in this one

presumably thanos knows him from when he singlehandedly shut down the chiaturi invasion at the end of avengers

One of my biggest personal disappointments (which I'm sure is disappointing to only me and maybe like three other people on the planet): I was really hoping for at least a cursory acknowledgment of the TV side of the MCU. I'd been hoping the schism was a long-term fake-out and everything would come together now. Like, spend a grand total of four seconds of time showing the small-screen dudes and dudettes TCB-ing it in the midst of chaos. But nah. And on Agents of SHIELD this week we got one passing mention from Jake Busey about crazy stuff going down in NYC (and I'm guessing half the team won't have mysteriously disappeared by next week's episode). Thanks, Loeb.

yeah, that was a bit of a bummer, although it did occur to me that the avengers still (iirc) think coulson's dead so i dunno if they could spare a few minutes of screen time to get everyone back up to speed

but clark gregg's gonna be in captain marvel tho right?

Is that official?! It makes sense that he might be but I hadn't heard anything about that.

Avengers 4 would be a good time for Coulson to go public again, right after half of the supposedly-dead population of the universe is resurrected. And just play it off like that's the reason he's alive again.