if only i were the sort of person to respond to all of these people with "yes it is ok" or "yes you may""go right ahead""permission granted"
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link
That is SO not okay to point out.
I often fall into the habit of appending "I think" to the front of posts. Declarative sentences feel too exposed.
― jmm, Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:21 (six years ago) link
*prepending? whatever
― jmm, Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link
"I think" is useful when you want to infer "This is my belief but feel free to disagree and I'm not stuck on it or anything"
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link
(As opposed to "My opinion is the literal truth, no other opinion counts.")
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link
"i think" is useful when you don't want to look like one of those ilmos who post like their personal opinions are coming straight from Mount Olympus
― hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link
i've noticed that men have started to "i think" and "i feel like"/ other softeners more than they used towe were advised to remove all hedging and softeners from our communications so we could sound more like men, more assertive, and look what happens next
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link
we could still carry on moving in opposite directions just to see how it works out
― hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link
i feel like that would be an interesting experiment
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link
i think you might be right
― hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:33 (six years ago) link
i hereby grant you permission from my perch atop mount olympus
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:41 (six years ago) link
pffffht. I rarely NEVER express my feelings. And if I did, nothing barring nature's stoic expanse would behold the majestic howlings of the lone wolf.
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link
what the fuck are "feelings"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link
it's for ppl whose esteem is based on pedantry and a self-congratulatory sense of correctness
this is absolutely true and unfortunately seems to describe most of my experience of the internet!
sorry if i have ever used sorry as a meaningless preface, but
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link
perhaps the most monstrous construction of our age is any patronising, pernickety, hectoring or aggressive comment prepended with "sorry"
it's for ppl whose esteem is based on pedantry and a self-congratulatory sense of correctness. i'm not sure what ppl think they mean when they write it (it's too obviously dickish to be common in spoken english), but it's amongst the most smug uses of ironic politeness going, but ofc it does at least serve the function of marking out its users as pure evil
― ogmor, Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:23 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I can't speak for anybody else but for me it generally means "I am trying to signal to you that I would prefer not to be yelled at for this"
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link
as in, the "patronizing" and "hectoring" part is editorializing; for me, it means "I disagree with you enough that I'm moved to say something, but really don't want to get into a fight about it [because I hate getting into fights]"
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:15 (six years ago) link
“That is a thing that happened”Surely mentioned somewhere upthread but I read it today and almost threw my phone out a window
― flappy bird, Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link
xp i'm moved to tell you that yr a terrible person but i don't want to get into a fight about it
― ogmor, Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:32 (six years ago) link
I mean the ideal outcome of any such comment would be "sorry, I didn't take that into account, I'll do better next time"
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
― jmm, Thursday, May 3, 2018 10:21 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark
yeah often this is necessary. people tend to take opinions in a very hostile way. if you offer up your view on a thread topic there is a 50% chance you didn't read the entire thread and somebody has decided there is a generally accepted narrative of discussion going on and now you are attacking it or somebody directly when in fact you just wanted to throw in your 2 cents.
statements made on the internet are opinions, this should be assumed for every post on the internet ever.
you do not have to both agree on the same opinion. two differing opinions can co-exist.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link
one man's thoughts
― mh, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link
the problem is that 'I think' is 4 characters longer than 'imo'; and 'imo' is an easier tell of someone posting their opinion than 'I think' which people might graze over ('imo' is more in your face and less prone to grazing.)
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link
I might of meant glazing
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link
i write imo a lotthe rest does waste space, i agreeif you're gonna add a disclaimer, do it efficiently for yourself & the message's recipients imo
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link
like if you read this message board and dont think just about everything is an opinion i rly dont think any1 can help u
― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:04 (six years ago) link
it's a tone thing
― brimstead, Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link
"i think"
i hate this thread so much
so is this but ppl still complain abt it and like to tell u 1 is better than the other:
"it it okay to point out"― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, May 3, 2018 7:13 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkall meaningless prefaces should be eliminated― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, May 3, 2018 7:14 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, May 3, 2018 7:13 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
all meaningless prefaces should be eliminated
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, May 3, 2018 7:14 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:16 (six years ago) link
Regadless of whether imo is shorter, language can be a plaything - obfuscation and meandering are worth something
― done and dusted (Ross), Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:16 (six years ago) link
This forum is not without posters who believe all of their opinions are pure objective, unarguable facts.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:27 (six years ago) link
Is that a fact?
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link
my posts are true facts stated
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:37 (six years ago) link
xp
In my humble opinion, I think it is
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:57 (six years ago) link
Everything’s radically subjective - can’t believe we’re still arguing about this
― done and dusted (Ross), Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link
I don't think that fewer keystrokes = better communication. Or more clarity.
All of this is a voluntary leisure activity. If I want to type "in my opinion" instead of "imo" it harms you in no way whatsoever.
― NO REGERTS (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:13 (six years ago) link
Well you can’t argue with the facts
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:21 (six years ago) link
Something being better because of fewer characters was a joke :/
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:22 (six years ago) link
ok
― NO REGERTS (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:23 (six years ago) link
(also a joke btw)
― NO REGERTS (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:24 (six years ago) link
But yeah, if you need extra clarity of whether or not you are saying an opinion it’s because your target audience might include slow folk.
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:27 (six years ago) link
all too common in a large forum or comment section
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link
Well this is disturbing https://t.co/TKbAQornkc pic.twitter.com/nTfyRQAftZ— Ben Smith (@BuzzFeedBen) May 2, 2018
― mh, Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link
I'm one of those awful people who reads it as honest, not humble
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:31 (six years ago) link
I thought maybe it was just people that read buzzfeed, wtf dude
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:32 (six years ago) link
My excuse is that I'm so old, I can't properly translate internet lingo
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:33 (six years ago) link
yeah often this is necessary. people tend to take opinions in a very hostile way.
Old ILX was awful about taking things personally unless you added imo more or whatever.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link
taking sides: ppl who describe themselves as honest vs ppl who describe themselves as humble
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:37 (six years ago) link
Humble is definitely the dud here
― done and dusted (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 00:06 (six years ago) link
Call yer self honest sure that sounds reasonable enough - but calling yourself humble? Whole other level of bullshit
― done and dusted (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link