Hawaii classic or dud

6.9 around an hour ago

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/us/kilauea-volcano-hawaii-earthquakes/index.html

"It has now become unnerving," resident Carol Shepard told KHON.

otm

6.9 around an hour ago

It was felt in Honolulu, ~250 miles away!

I can only remember this volcano's name because it sounds like killer whale :-/

hang in there

https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/LIB3445AQMZFNDBWTBVTM6FQ3Q.jpg

lost in a hawaiian wilderness of pain

whoops

https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/LIB3445AQMZFNDBWTBVTM6FQ3Q.jpg

You shouldn't be smoking outside.

Holy crap. I didn't realize they felt it in Oahu. This with the false missile alert and the floods. Ugh.

called in sick to work yesterday, arrived today to find that the backup projectionist had not seen the note (addressed to me) warning me to remove the ad slide for our upcoming "comedy ERUPTION!" event, thus causing complaints at last night's movie-- which was the death of stalin, so i'm not rly sure i'm willing to take the offended seriously.

Are you the person that used to work at Turtle Bay?

We had at very close 5.1 a couple of days ago. It was loud. I have been in an 8 point something before. These things suck even knowing to expect them or to wake up to shaking in the middle of the night.

nah we've had/still have a few hawaii-based ilxors (was that gr80?)-- i just tech at a theatre in hilo.

and yeah standards are low here but notgonnalie that 6.9 was scary.

not at all nice.

insane:
https://jalopnik.com/watch-lava-from-the-kilauea-volcano-swallow-a-ford-must-1825822759

saw that this morning, it just eats right through it

Terrifying yet gorgeous all the same.

Is that R2D2, just waiting there, watching his car burn?

It's a p nice touch, that.

http://www.scifimoviezone.com/imagestarwars/starwars5script764.jpg

okay what is it about this thread that makes me do that

o well shouldn't have hotlinked anyway.

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180507223102-cm-101-hawaii-volcano-0507-exlarge-169.jpg

I think I found the guy who owned the R2D2

he's doing that thing eleven does with her hands

it's true, she does do that a lot

new thread idea

Other Hawaii news: This is the cloudiest year I have ever seen here and Honolulu feels like I'm living in a warmer Minneapolis (which is overcast all the time). Not complaining, I love this weather.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/05/how-to-look-at-hawaiis-lava/559988/

USGS alert increased from orange to red?

We no sked 'em

couldn't find the right screencap of the construction foreman in majora's mask: "cowards! let it fall!"

after that plume yesterday even the town smells like sulfur

Kilauea is erupting:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hawaii-volcano-kilauea-eruption-update-today-2018-05-17-live-stream-updates/

at this point i think we'd prefer a big trad eruption at halemaumau to these constant random explosions elsewhere in the system / constant subliminal earthquakes / constant air degradation / constant people wanting to tell you exactly how high the apocalyptic wave would be if the east rift zone went. taking these last two big ash plumes as a good sign? the mountain seems to need to clear its throat. nb i don't know anything about anything.

i keep thinking whoever i'm with farted

They may have though

That photo of 30s dudes playing golf in the shadow of the ash is fake, right?

bummer how much stuff we've routinely visited on the Big Island is getting destroyed - RIP Ahalanui Warm Water Pond, Kapoho tide pools :(

pele teaches us life is change

the boiling sunset-red clouds over pahoa, lit from below in otherwise pitch-dark night skies, are something else, btw

pele teaches us life is change

― difficult listening hour, Thursday, July 12, 2018 3:19 PM (three hours ago)

pele otm

heading to dry side of the Big Island tomorrow morning

! how long for? i need an excuse for go kona cuz i have store credit to clear at the island's single remaining medium-sized bookstore

Til the 11th, currently stuck on the tarmac tho >:(

hope they're serving pog

Fuckin United, so no

dlh - sorry I missed ya, looks like we cross-ilx e-mailed each other lol. in any event, trip was fraught with intruding unforeseen circumstances, both kids got sick in succession (fevers, etc.) and then as soon as they were better I promptly injured myself at the beach and had to go to urgent care in Waimea so um yeah. Island is still beautiful though!

Haunani-Kay Trask on the word "haole" — so classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LYLc2gIFOE

Kapaemahu's probably classic as well. (And very different from the above.) It's a gorgeous animated short that gives insight into Hawaiian concepts of healing and gender, narrated in 100% Hawaii ʻōlelo.

Can watch 'em here: https://www.kapaemahu.com/

I like that they specified that it was Ni'ihau Hawaiian, probably to account for the dialectical differences compared to Hawaiian that is institutionally taught throughout the rest of the state. I appreciate that the website quotes Kamakau and emphasizes the importance of Hawaiian history as told by Hawaiians. Kumu Hina is doing some very important work as far as Hawaiian history, culture, and identity. I never learned māhū as a bad word, and I didn't realize that it had those connotations to people until I was in high school, when I saw people take offense.

Also that Trask video (among others) were very popular in my HS/College days. The argument for/against the use of the word "haole" has always been interesting to me, similiarly to above, because I never understood what was wrong with it. Growing up, I didn't initially learn it as a pejorative. It was always just a descriptor, akin to "kanaka" unless another adjective was added to it.

I always find it interesting to find out the perspectives of Hawaiian history/culture from those who are not from Hawai'i. History of the Hawaiian monarchy is compulsory here, in elementary, intermediate, AND high school, though it might have been more emphasized in my high school than others.

4-year UH programs (and maybe community colleges?) also require a Hawaiian studies course in all programs, which I very much appreciated. I moved here as a middle-school kid, and I had some courses thru high school, but I wish I would've had more.

My partner Jasmine was recently expressing the outrageousness of the fact that ʻōlelo is not offered as a foreign language option in public schools. And she's absolutely correct. It's an official language of the state FFS!

HKT's breakdown is unassailable. I'm forgetting whether she mentions it in that video, but I think part of it is that white is the default race on the continent, and the use of the Hawaiian name instead of wypipo is a frequent reminder they're not the default here. That they are settlers makes it a little more awkward, especially given the fact that the overthrow of the Haw'n government was illegal and they're all occupying stolen land.

It is very revealing to talk to transplants about those politics. Military families are notorious for backward views about US sovereignty over Hawaii. Plenty of civilians I've met never get over the culture shock, and leave after a year or two. And plenty do lots of reading and get a well-rounded understanding of local history and politics. (There's a TON of great Hawaiiana literature available, and it makes me proud when I think about how many good writers have struggled to stay here and contribute to that body of work.)

South Park's Hawaii episode nailed a common settler haole type pretty well, ya? The deeper psychology is kind of hard to explain... There's a clinging-on to notions of paradise and, and I think that settlers who believe they truly belong here necessarily must disavow (or just remain ignorant of) the darker parts of this place's history and their problematic part in it. They latch on to an outrigger paddling team or (cooler IMO) hālau hula, and overidentify with these "tribes" in search of authentic belonging. Or they don't, and function shittily as permanent tourists who drink chi-chis day and night until they eventually croak.

Classic: Polynesian acceptance of a liminal gender (māhū), aikāne relationships that "held no stigmatism to the persons ʻano (one's nature or character)"

Dud: Christian missionaries began arriving in Hawaii in the 19th century, soon enacted strict sodomy laws