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hi it's me, jim fucking galloway

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link

Just got back from early voting for Abrams.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link

And Emily's List, which is about as establishment Democratic as you can get, endorses Stacey Evans in the Georgia gubernatorial primary over Stacey Abrams

Ya mixed up your Staceys. Abrams got the endorsement.

Stacey Evans is basically a wet noodle of a candidate, white or not.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link

It’s cute that her divorced parents have started dating each other because of the campaign, though. That would be solid gold rom-com material back when Michael Douglas was in everything.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 12 May 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

then the ex/new wife would accuse him of rape

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

Yeah I too got confused by the two Staceys, sorry, I said the exact opposite of what I meant. Emily's List endorsed Abrams.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link

maple cocaine is owed royalties at this point

.@SenGillibrand talking up importance of women in power at CAP conference: “If it wasn’t Lehman Brothers but Lehman Sisters we might not have had the financial collapse."

— Cameron Joseph (@cam_joseph) May 15, 2018

Simon H., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

As we all know, women are never greedy or unscrupulous.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link

I know it's just a line and not a policy plank or anything but man that does not inspire confidence

Simon H., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link

Because she’s not owning up to the fact that capitalist speculation inexorably leads to boom-bust cycles and ruined lives? Or just because it sounds lame?

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link

Lehwoman Sisters

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link

Because she’s not owning up to the fact that capitalist speculation inexorably leads to boom-bust cycles and ruined lives? Or just because it sounds lame?

Both of those, but also the whole idea that hiring women CEOs/execs is any kind of structural fix to much of anything is pretty popular and also wrong

Simon H., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

It’s just a corny women’s solidarity joke. It’s weird that so many people complete the process of posting the Maple Cocaine” callback and don’t stop when they how cringey and embarrassing it is.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link

*when they realize how

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link

Regardless of its jokeness, a lot of people earnestly think along these lines and they really don't need to be validated

Simon H., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:52 (six years ago) link

no nerdstrom, she is actually suggesting that the financial sector would be less fucked if there were more women execs. this is the height of neoliberal diversity inanity which is so well parodied in the maple cocaine tweet

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:54 (six years ago) link

i donated to greg edwards (pa-7, running against a centrist and a ... non-populist borderline republican). he seems good.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link

lol at Gillibrand, jesus fucking christ

"It's A Corny Women's Solidarity Joke, Relax" will be the campaign slogan of course

sciatica, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:39 (six years ago) link

She didn't say the financial sector would be less fucked up with more women execs. She said "we might not have had the financial collapse." That's a specific outcome she is linking to gender. Which is what makes it very shaky suggestion at best.

I'm perfectly happy with the idea of more women execs, because women deserve the same opportunities to succeed or to screw up that men are given, but I don't think women have some moral ascendancy over men or a discernibly greater level of competence at executive decision making.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:45 (six years ago) link

okay, dudes

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:46 (six years ago) link

sorry that was last part was unnecessary. I don't know how to express the fact that a lot of liberal gender-speak doesn't translate to electoral viability, especially in its more obviously superficial pandering form

sciatica, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:46 (six years ago) link

Sotosyn pandering, and he's not even married

Gillibrand is a bullshitter, but y'know it goes with the job

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:58 (six years ago) link

at least she didnt congratulate Yam on Jerusalem like her colleague Schmucko

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:17 (six years ago) link

Sotosyn pandering, and he's not even married

well, yeah, I wanna a bunch of bros explaining as if it were a novelty that women can pander.

Gillibrand's been pretty good on many questions; she and the competition should be as vocal and omnipresent as Ted Cruz and Rand Paul were in 2013-2014.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link

I agree she's been mostly good for a Dem, which is why this rankled

Simon H., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link

Can’t you find something else to be rankled about

How much rankling do you try to get in every day

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 01:18 (six years ago) link

What can I say, it's rank out there

Simon H., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 01:24 (six years ago) link

in other news, a couple of DSA folks (Summer Lee and Sara Innamorato) won their Philly state rep primaries

Simon H., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:02 (six years ago) link

If Kristen Gillibrand is on the ballot in November 2020, I will vote for her without half a second's hesitation. It is true, moreover, that she has distinguished herself in her opposition to Trump, her advocacy on sexual assault, and all the rest.

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) January 5, 2018


That said, I do not think it is dumb or bad to point out, for instance, that her positions on immigration in the House were basically Trumpism. https://t.co/YxRmBHoZMu pic.twitter.com/oVSxLbeZbG

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) January 5, 2018


It is nonsense to say that switching positions makes her non-viable and it is likely true that women get more scrutiny for this than men. That said, I think there are sensible reasons to scrutinize Kirsten Gillibrand, which I wrote about late last year. https://t.co/2PZog0zBWy

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) January 5, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link

scrutiny is what separates us from the animals I guess

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:13 (six years ago) link

two big dsa wins in Pitt, Lazio winning, Fetterman winning, seems like a good night. Is there a guide somewhere to the entire set of primaries/what other races have unusually left candidates in them?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:17 (six years ago) link

Worth reviewing key policies of @SummerForPA, who won D primary near Pittsburgh:

-- Abolish cash bail
-- Moratorium on all prison building
-- Create a millionaire's tax
-- Single payer in PA w/ zero copays
-- Universal free pre-k
-- 100% renewable energyhttps://t.co/bSwQjUld6U

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) May 16, 2018

Simon H., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 12:05 (six years ago) link

Sounds good to me

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 12:13 (six years ago) link

in b4 sic

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valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link

All this hand-wringing about the electability of Dems who hold wildly-popular positions (pot decriminalization, background checks for gun purchases) makes me nuts. It would be so lovely if these "far-left" candidates kicked ass in November.

DJI, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link

Some of em probably will, weed and Medicare are both crossover winners I think.

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link

winning in November is the only metric that matters. The handwringers w/in the party are mostly worried strictly about where to best pour resources/money - if these folks don't poll well/look like they don't have a shot, that money/support is going to flow elsewhere where the races are closer.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link

but yeah I don't think the weed + medicare positions are much of a threat. gun measures are a little harder to predict in somewhere like PA.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link

This WaPo article is a masterpiece of received thinking and stale framing.

Tuesday was a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day for Democratic moderates.

and

- Statewide, John Fetterman — a small-town mayor with a bristly beard and tattoos on both of his arms — toppled Pennsylvania’s incumbent lieutenant governor, Mike Stack, thanks in part to the strong endorsement of Bernie Sanders,

why not call him a beatnik too?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link

The handwringing will only make it sweeter when they kick ass in November :)

Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

I think all of the DSA-backed candidates won their races? A good day, in any case.

Simon H., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link

huge if true

<3 silby

chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link

Before the Fetterman thing, I had no idea that 18 states elect the governor and lieutenant governor separately. Fuckin' weirdos.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

Virginia elects its governor, lt. governor, and attorney general separately; they can be from different parties (and often are).

it's a leaf that the nomads chew (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link

xp Georgia too

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link

John Fetterman’s home is A+ real estate porn if you’re into that. He and his wife converted an old car dealership in the town he’s mayor of.

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 23:46 (six years ago) link


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