Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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Can't we deport the Manic Street Preachers there pls? I was just surprised the British government was still referring to it as New Holland in official correspondences almost a century after they had claimed the continent.

it's been 200 years for NSW but I'm still keen for a better name

as long as they don't name it after one of the current conga line of apparently invincible right wing fuckholes i don't care what they call it tbh

New South Brexitlandia

New South Fucking Milton Keynes of Death!

I get places like "New England" or "New York/New Amsterdam", but I never got "New South Wales".

I understand there's a region called South Wales, but why not have just named the state "New Wales"? It'd be akin to some guy from Nebraska landing on Mars and calling the area "New Midwest America".

The people of New Rees-Mogg expressed surprise when, after dynamiting the links to the nearby landmass, they did not start to float away off.

In his original journal covering the survey, in triplicate to satisfy Admiralty Orders, Cook first named the land New Wales, however, in the copy held by the Admiralty, he revised the wording to New South Wales.

Christ, who would want to live in New Wales, the old one is bad enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYQb3FtJfm0

Vase is one I heard both ways growing up, although the ahhh version I heard as more a snooty Kennedyism as opposed to an attempt at a French pronunciation. Same people who would say take a bahhhth.

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The weird Kennedy New England accent is still something that I'm not used to even after living in Boston for so long.

Bahhhth is the weirdest one to me. I remember the first time I heard someone up here say that. So weird.

Even growing up around it was weird. It was jarring when I'd hear a grandparent pronounce it that way.

mag wheels were called mag wheels because they were... made from magnesium

Background to the garbage strike that King delivered the I Have a dream speech to an audience in.
Black garbage men couldn't shelter from the rain anywhere in Memphis so climbed into their compactor and the broom they were using to keep the thing open shifted meaning they got crushed.

Only heard it this afternoon.
Think I'd heard about the speech being during the garbage man strike a few years ago

That everyone sucks.

What the word "feckless" means.

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mag wheels were called mag wheels because they were... made from magnesium

LOL ok I didnt know this either and it seems so obvious now I do.

What the word "feckless" means.

Obviously not a reader of right wing UK rags or habitue of Tory Party conferences.

That "indicted" is actually the same as the word that's pronounced "in-DITE-ed".

Thanks, The Good Fight!

OHHH

Now I feel bad for the verb 'indite'

And yet 'interdict' is pronounced 'enter-DICKED'. Whoever invented English (Thomas Edison, I think?) really should've tried a little harder.

First time I noticed the word feckless was on roisin Murphy’s song “hairless toys”

“Wreckless, feckless, careless talk”

What do Americans use instead of feckless, or are there no feckless Americans?

Some of us use feckless. There are plenty of Americans with a marked deficiency of feck.

I’m Canadian but I would probably use irresponsible, weak or futile

Talking of which, I used to think it was less bad to call someone a cunt in America than here (Scotland not included) but now I don't know any more.

I feel like maybe the word gets used against women more in the US, but this may be based mostly on this latest case and that Curb episode.

There is nowhere it is less bad to call a woman that than in America afaict

I mean more bad. It is very bad here.

The word is almost exclusively used against women in the US and therefore has a much more misogynistic connotation over here.

Yes, I think that's the difference.

p sure i was mixing up "feckless" & "guileless" well into my 30s

re thread subject: Old Whites would prefer the world burn to a crisp with their grandkids on it than modify their lifestyles or beliefs one iota.

(xp| Can I throw gormless into the mix?

ha yep

yeah 'cunt' is a 'bad word' in the UK but depending on the situation and location it can get thrown around a lot, more usually to describe a man I'd say

i've always used feckless to mean lazy or idle. is that wrong?

yeah 'cunt' is a 'bad word' in the UK but depending on the situation and location it can get thrown around a lot, more usually to describe a man I'd say

Similar to calling a man a pussy here in the US. Which is still sexist btw (if you stop for a second to think about the implications), just not as bad as calling a woman a cunt. We generally wouldn't call a woman a pussy, in the "grow a pair" sense.

I'd be okay with all these usages dying out.

It's not similar to calling a man a pussy at all, that has implications of weakness and unmanliness doesn't it?

I prefer to just call everybody an asshole. We all have one of those.

(Still trying to popularize 'nipple' as a pejorative but can't seem to get off the runway with that one.)

I worry about Americans visiting the UK and thinking that they can freely use the word 'cunt'. You can't, and its still the strongest swear word. It can be used in different ways among friends, but calling someonw a cunt (especially in anger) is still offensive.

Not to mention that either way it's still a misogynistic slur - from women being reduced to their genitals, to men being insulted by being called the word for a woman, it's a gendered word, whether people will admit it or not.

speak for yourself buddy, i have previously established on ilx that i had a cloaca installed a while back and i'm v happy with it xxp

xxps dunno.. i get what you mean but calling someone a 'cunt' in the UK is just that. in towns like Glasgow it's used so often it's a borderline term of endearment. it's become so removed from the original meaning (like 'fuck or whatever) that I don't really think it has the same implication as 'pussy', which is definitely sexually implicit

And a man callng another man a 'cunt' is very different from calling a women that. xp

The way it's used in Scotland is sort of ridiculous, but it's by no means a term of endearment, it's more neutral:

Alan McGee: "How did the last album sell?"
Boaby Gillespite: "Shite. Nae cunt boaght it."

like, saying 'that guy's a cunt', 'that guy's a dick' 'that guy's an arsehole' or a twat or anything like that - depending on the context and intention pretty much denotes that the subject is either a silly or insalubrious person as opposed to literally a body part.

... I mean it's neutral when used as above, I wouldn't recommend slapping someone heartily on the shoulder in a bar in Glasgow and saying, "How the hell are you, you cunt."

And you shouldn't hit on a woman by saying 'Hey, cunt - do you want a drink?'. The gendered nature of it persists.