That's crazy. I can't imagine not doing at least 10 minutes of cardio before lifting. My brother was pretty sw0le but he also had a heart attack (he's alive) at 38 (I think he was doing steroids though or way too many supplements/protein powder). He was also a cop and I can't even visualize him running for more than 2 minutes.
― Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link
I am now reading up on all this no cardio thing.
― Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link
a lot of lifters like to push the sled
― sprout god (lag∞n), Monday, 28 May 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link
heart problems are common among lifters
i had some heart problems but decided to stop using protein powder and just eat natural and healthy and my heart feels fine now
i can eat a lot of junk food in one sitting and i don't feel full or get fat, granted i continue my exercise routine, but my heart definitely feels it (cholesterol/blood pressure/etc). that's when i know i have to eat cleaner for a while or do cardio -- cardio helps the most for me
w/r/t roids, maybe three years ago in this thread i posted about my little 17 year old cousin who got testicular cancer bc he was taking them. froze his sperm bc he can't have kids anymore
― F# A# (∞), Monday, 28 May 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
I just ate 1.5 medium pizzas. I am going to be burping on the erg in a second.
― Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link
i'm a no cardio bro, mainly to save time at the gym. i do about 10 mins warmup stretches tho.i justify it by telling myself i don't have a car, so i walk everywhere..? kinda lame thothere is a thing about the intensity of the lifts working your system similarly to HIIT but that's always seemed a leeeetle bit sophistic tbh
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 28 May 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link
I love HIIT workouts. It's like the Kimmy Schmidt show where she says "you can stand anything for 10 seconds" (or insert whatever amount of time for the workout.
When I had to go to physical therapy for my knees it was mandatory that I do 10 minutes of cardio before I started the muscle exercises. I stuck with that.
― Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link
i am a big dude and all my joints are fucked from years of jiu jitsu so i try not to run too much but i get on the elliptical for 20-30 minutes every lifting day. i crank the resistance to the max and try and keep my heart rate (per the weird hand monitor things) in the 130s for that time. i know there are more effective things (the rower, the bike, etc) but that's about as much cardio effort as i am willing to put in.
had to bail on a squat today for the first time. i set a PR and then got greedy and added 10 more pounds. got halfway up and nope. went back down, rested the bar on the safeties and ducked out. felt like a total dork but nothing ventured nothing gained right.
― adam, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:54 (six years ago) link
VENTURZGAINZ
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 28 May 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link
Sometimes when I don't want to do cardio I just pretend I am Trump and believe that we have a finite amount of energy and exercise just depletes it.
― Yerac, Monday, 28 May 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link
a few weeks ago i went down with a front squat, light weight, and just totally lost my balance out of the blue, fell backwards. luckily the safety bars were in.
i'm basically always trying to find a balance between these four things: lifting, yoga, running, rest & recovery. i'm almost always adding more of one then consequently doing less of something else than doing more of that thing etc
― you bet, nancy (map), Monday, 28 May 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link
my diet lately is pretty loose, it could use some improvement i guess. i've never felt the need to get totally ripped. though if i'm eating more and i don't run for a few days i want to get out there and burn some calories. running is a mental health drug for me, lifting is kind of a libidinal obsession, yoga makes me feel refreshed / restored.
― you bet, nancy (map), Monday, 28 May 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link
I switched from running to lifting a few months back. Was trying to incorporate a 10 minute cardio warm-up but my lunch hour's only an hour and I decided that a few minutes of active stretching was probably enough.
But last week I decided to try HIIT for the first time. It was on Friday where it was like 90 and humid as fuck here in Maryland. So I decided to do a mile run before that to warm up. What was weird was that when I was jogging three or four times a week, I still struggled to run a mile often (I just started all this shit two or three years ago). But on Friday I did a mile without stopping at all after not running at all since January or February. I'm putting that down to the leg excercises I've been doing (goblet squats, dumbbell deadlifts) and maybe just general overall fitness improvements from lifting?
The sprints after that killed me in the heat and I had to pack it in after a few minutes of it, but I'm going to try to work this in once a week now.
― how's life, Monday, 28 May 2018 23:41 (six years ago) link
Lifting definitely made running noticeably easier for me. Remember that compound lifts like squats and deadlifts are not really just leg exercises, they work most of your body and train it to work as a whole.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 28 May 2018 23:53 (six years ago) link
well yeah, I was simplifying though because that's really the main exercises I've been doing for leg day so far.
― how's life, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 00:44 (six years ago) link
do you guys do like yoga classes or do you have some youtube yogi that you follow or what?
― adam, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 01:02 (six years ago) link
I used to go to yoga classesBut it’s kind of a rip offMy ex had one of those 300+ hour yoga teaching certificates so she taught me the posesNow i sometimes just use youtubeBut once you learn them you can mostly do them by yourself, unless you really want the ambience/guidance/social aspect of it
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 01:11 (six years ago) link
we have a finite amount of energy and exercise just depletes it.
this is why i walk and do nothing else
(ok a few barbell lifts when i remember i have them)
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 01:16 (six years ago) link
But once you learn them you can mostly do them by yourself, unless you really want the ambience/guidance/social aspect of it
― F# A# (∞), Monday, May 28, 2018 9:11 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i like doing yoga on my own better cause i can focus on what i need, which is actually the traditional way to do it and makes a lot of sense when u think about it
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 04:59 (six years ago) link
i went to one teacher's loosely ashtanga-oriented flow classes for a few years and took a few poses from that that i like to do for 20-30 counts at a time, 15-20 minutes or so total before i lift. i hear youtube is pretty good for learning but i haven't checked it out yet.
― you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 05:06 (six years ago) link
it's kind of fun doing yoga in the ab area, all the sw0le bros look at you funny, then you go heavier than they do on squats hehe
― you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 05:09 (six years ago) link
i've had some good / fun experiences in yoga classes but more often than not the "stuff white people like" cultural aspect of it gets on my nerves.
i'm in a small sort of redneck town right now and the gym regulars are mostly big truck types. but it's also a big outdoor recreation destination so i occasionally see climbers and mountain bikers doing the stuff they do. i've seen this one guy do hardcore ashtanga here, like seriously impressive stuff. it's awesome to see someone just doing that on their own at the gym. my last gym in a bigger city was a crossfit type place that i didn't like as much, felt too homogenous and culty.
― you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 05:39 (six years ago) link
The only yoga I find good to do in classes is Bikram. Besides needing a heated room, being in the class is the only way I would do 90 minutes of that torture. It's a little addictive.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link
the current 30 for 30 podcast series is entirely about bikram yoga
i'm sort of morbidly curious about it
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link
I tried to do 30 classes in 30 days and I couldn't do it. It's such a commitment because classes are 90 minutes but you really should get there 10-15 in advance to acclimate to the room. And they really don't want you to leave the room at all during. You really really have to make sure you eat and drink right beforehand or you will be miserable. But as far as stretch, balance and core strength it's super good.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link
its such an intense workout doing it every single day is prob not actually the best
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link
It's been a thing though, the 30 classes in 30 days challenge. I could see doing it, if I wasn't working or drinking and it was winter.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:47 (six years ago) link
Was able to squat 225 x 5 with good form relatively easily yesterday, felt good to see the progress.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:08 (six years ago) link
yeah i know its their thing and im sure itd overall be beneficial (if you didnt get injured) but i bet doing it 5 days a week wld be even better xp
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link
also my daughter's friend told me I have a baby in my belly
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:24 (six years ago) link
lol
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link
you don't really need that much protein
― Brad C., Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link
I responded, "Yeah? And how much can you deadlift, huh?"
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link
the real question is how much can the fetus deadlift, dont want to be giving birth to a spindly twerp
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:30 (six years ago) link
i like to get super high and do yoga its nice i really get into it then maybe lift after
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link
xpost, yeah I could only ever get up to 20 times a month. Real life takes over. I feel like I never even came close to injury and my posture was banging.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:08 (six years ago) link
For some weird reason I always thought that dudes that lift and don't do cardio look like Alex Jones. I now see I am wrong.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:09 (six years ago) link
sixpacks are made in the kitchen, but I don't know the recipe
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:36 (six years ago) link
VENTURZ
GAINZ
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, May 28, 2018 10:01 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:16 (six years ago) link
I've added some mass and lost some inches, I'm feelin good and clear
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link
― adam, Monday, May 28, 2018 9:02 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I used to go to yoga classes
But it’s kind of a rip off
My ex had one of those 300+ hour yoga teaching certificates so she taught me the poses
Now i sometimes just use youtube
― F# A# (∞), Monday, May 28, 2018 9:11 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya if you want to get started w yoga wld recommend going to as many classes as you can until you get a feel for it, then if you want to do it on yr own u can, using a video at home is def a heavier lift for beginning
― sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link
feel like yoga and lifting are similar where the entry level understanding is getting the form right but then a more intermediate level is how to actually engage yr muscles within that form
― sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 15:38 (six years ago) link
I have definitely told people more than once "lifting is a lot more like yoga than you would expect" because so much of it is about form, breathing, concentration and engagement of your muscles in a specific way
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link
Also I have found through trial and error that taking a meditative approach is more effective than trying to get aggro/hyped up
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link
I've been back at the gym for 2-3 months at this point and have been v disciplined abt being consistent and not making excuses to skip days, and proactively rescheduling gym days on nights I wanna do stuff. My weight is the same, which I expected more or less, but I def feel like parts of my body are getting meatier. It also feels really good to do things with ease that I could barely complete 2 months ago with 5-10 lbs less weight. It's still laughably small stuff (like, I'm benching 85, shoulder pressing 30, deadlifting 85) but it feels cool to notice improvements and I'm also happy that after doing this for several years I've become confident in what I do and no longer insecure abt, like, "will ppl notice i'm doing this incorrectly or with too little weight"
I think my goal next is going to be being much more mindful abt my diet, like eating more nutritious things, maybe tracking calories and protein instead of just winging it with making a vague effort to eat more meat and having a 25g protein shake after each workout
― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link
That’s awesome!
Fwiw I never ever judge anyone for using low weight bc everyone starts low. I do sometimes judge people for form just because either they are not getting benefit from the way they are doing it or they are risking injury.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link
I think low weights are pretty acceptable now too because of some people being into high reps/low weights and also who gives a shit ( no one knows your life). I like during my boot camp type of classes that almost every swole dude having to drop their weights in the middle of an interval because they just can't finish.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:40 (six years ago) link
Keep going Stevie! I'm also a guy starting with relatively little muscle, but I've been working very steadily the past few months and noticing the changes.
― how's life, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:52 (six years ago) link
Also you never know if someone is working up to a higher weight. I had a weirdo get snobby working in with me on bench press because I was only at like tens on each side. But that was my warmup and I was doing a gradual ramp. My last set was more than his (in spite of him having prettier and more defined muscles), and he was doing like half range of motion.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:54 (six years ago) link
the absolute number of weight doesnt matter just as long as its heavy to you, then lift it with perfect form, also if you want to gain weight the easiest way is to eat a bunch of pizza and ice cream unfortunately, or so ive heard ive never been in the position to want to gain weight, tho i have eaten a lot of pizza and ice cream and can attest to its efficacy
― sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:57 (six years ago) link