That everyone sucks.
― Ross, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link
What the word "feckless" means.
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 1 June 2018 04:02 (five years ago) link
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NLnPU2wMsg0/UOuZgcXlfmI/AAAAAAAAAHk/B-VBYbj7v-A/s1600/riversedgefeck.jpg
― mookieproof, Friday, 1 June 2018 04:28 (five years ago) link
mag wheels were called mag wheels because they were... made from magnesium
LOL ok I didnt know this either and it seems so obvious now I do.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 1 June 2018 05:41 (five years ago) link
Obviously not a reader of right wing UK rags or habitue of Tory Party conferences.
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Friday, 1 June 2018 07:25 (five years ago) link
That "indicted" is actually the same as the word that's pronounced "in-DITE-ed".
Thanks, The Good Fight!
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 1 June 2018 11:01 (five years ago) link
OHHH
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 June 2018 12:06 (five years ago) link
Now I feel bad for the verb 'indite'
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 June 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link
And yet 'interdict' is pronounced 'enter-DICKED'. Whoever invented English (Thomas Edison, I think?) really should've tried a little harder.
― My Favorte People Call Me Dad Soft Toddler (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 12:20 (five years ago) link
First time I noticed the word feckless was on roisin Murphy’s song “hairless toys”
“Wreckless, feckless, careless talk”
― Ross, Friday, 1 June 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link
What do Americans use instead of feckless, or are there no feckless Americans?
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link
Some of us use feckless. There are plenty of Americans with a marked deficiency of feck.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:12 (five years ago) link
I’m Canadian but I would probably use irresponsible, weak or futile
― Ross, Friday, 1 June 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link
Talking of which, I used to think it was less bad to call someone a cunt in America than here (Scotland not included) but now I don't know any more.
I feel like maybe the word gets used against women more in the US, but this may be based mostly on this latest case and that Curb episode.
― Alba, Friday, 1 June 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link
There is nowhere it is less bad to call a woman that than in America afaict
― valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link
I mean more bad. It is very bad here.
The word is almost exclusively used against women in the US and therefore has a much more misogynistic connotation over here.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link
Yes, I think that's the difference.
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link
p sure i was mixing up "feckless" & "guileless" well into my 30s
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link
re thread subject: Old Whites would prefer the world burn to a crisp with their grandkids on it than modify their lifestyles or beliefs one iota.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link
(xp| Can I throw gormless into the mix?
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link
ha yep
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 1 June 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link
yeah 'cunt' is a 'bad word' in the UK but depending on the situation and location it can get thrown around a lot, more usually to describe a man I'd say
― My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link
i've always used feckless to mean lazy or idle. is that wrong?
― Toto Cuomo (NickB), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link
Similar to calling a man a pussy here in the US. Which is still sexist btw (if you stop for a second to think about the implications), just not as bad as calling a woman a cunt. We generally wouldn't call a woman a pussy, in the "grow a pair" sense.
I'd be okay with all these usages dying out.
― the salmon mousse (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link
It's not similar to calling a man a pussy at all, that has implications of weakness and unmanliness doesn't it?
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link
I prefer to just call everybody an asshole. We all have one of those.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link
(Still trying to popularize 'nipple' as a pejorative but can't seem to get off the runway with that one.)
I worry about Americans visiting the UK and thinking that they can freely use the word 'cunt'. You can't, and its still the strongest swear word. It can be used in different ways among friends, but calling someonw a cunt (especially in anger) is still offensive.
Not to mention that either way it's still a misogynistic slur - from women being reduced to their genitals, to men being insulted by being called the word for a woman, it's a gendered word, whether people will admit it or not.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link
speak for yourself buddy, i have previously established on ilx that i had a cloaca installed a while back and i'm v happy with it xxp
― capybaras are friend shaped (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link
xxps dunno.. i get what you mean but calling someone a 'cunt' in the UK is just that. in towns like Glasgow it's used so often it's a borderline term of endearment. it's become so removed from the original meaning (like 'fuck or whatever) that I don't really think it has the same implication as 'pussy', which is definitely sexually implicit
― My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link
And a man callng another man a 'cunt' is very different from calling a women that. xp
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link
The way it's used in Scotland is sort of ridiculous, but it's by no means a term of endearment, it's more neutral:
Alan McGee: "How did the last album sell?"Boaby Gillespite: "Shite. Nae cunt boaght it."
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link
like, saying 'that guy's a cunt', 'that guy's a dick' 'that guy's an arsehole' or a twat or anything like that - depending on the context and intention pretty much denotes that the subject is either a silly or insalubrious person as opposed to literally a body part.
― My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link
... I mean it's neutral when used as above, I wouldn't recommend slapping someone heartily on the shoulder in a bar in Glasgow and saying, "How the hell are you, you cunt."
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link
And you shouldn't hit on a woman by saying 'Hey, cunt - do you want a drink?'. The gendered nature of it persists.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link
And the reason it's used as a term of endearment is because of it's offensiveness, not because it's a neutral term.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link
It's very commonly used in construction site speak, and often not meant with offensive intent eg "ask that cunt over there, he knows".
― calzino, Friday, 1 June 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link
But not in anger, and not to women.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
i've hardly ever heard it used to describe a woman, unless it's by another woman. it sounds a bit weird. the first time i came across it used by US people was the episode of Curb where Larry accidentally spits it out and offends everyone at the dinner party; later it's explained that it's a term to describe someone who is effeminate, which is not the UK reading at all
― My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link
(or else it resumses it's offensive state) xp
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
darragh's going to get very cross at us as soon as he gets home from wrok
― valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IfoUM6a4bA
― Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link
(I'm really just annoyed by people elsewhere who defend attacking women with that word by saying that it's not offensive in Scotland or Australia, when it is. Was especially common during the gamergate harassment period)
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
It's generally a safe bet to trust the utterer's opinion as to whether or not their gendered pejorative of choice is offensive. They tend to be pretty impartial about it, I find.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link
Possibly interesting to compare perception of misogyny, harshness/taboo of insult of cunt compared to twat, is there an etymological reason for that? Don't think I've ever heard anyone complain about twat being misogynistic.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 1 June 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link
Thinking of the gendered aspect, curiously I think it feels more manly to be called a cunt than a prick. Not that I want to be called either.
― Alba, Friday, 1 June 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
I called the woman I work for a cunt while talking to our HR woman last week during a moment of extreme anger. Was very happy when I realized that she hadn't heard me.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 1 June 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link
annoyed by people elsewhere who defend attacking women with that word by saying that it's not offensive in Scotland or Australia, when it is.
fuck up cunce
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 1 June 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link
It's a strong insult but when you're dealing with a really reprehensible asshole sometimes it is the most fitting and effective choice and yes obv it's gendered but for me that isn't really an issue when it's used by a woman describing another woman etc.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 1 June 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link