US Politics, May 2018: How Broke Is He?

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That's great news.

O'Keefe. He's another one I hope to live long enough to see lashed to a raft and pushed out to sea.

My Favorte People Call Me Dad Soft Toddler (Old Lunch), Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link

Can you undo a pardon? If delivered for corrupt reasons or anything?
Or is the process of pardoning non-reversible.
& would that further hinge on being able to impeach the person doing the pardoning.

― Stevolende

you want to know if there's a precedent? sure. there's tons of precedents. here's one:

1642 – From this date all honors granted by Charles I of England are retroactively annulled by Parliament.

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link

Why would any American want a car from a shithole loser country like Germany Alabama anyway

― the salmon mousse (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 1 June 2018 3:54 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link

Andrew McCarthy:

The selective, politicized prosecution of conservative author, producer, and activist Dinesh D’Souza was an exercise in gratuitous severity. President Trump’s pardon of D’Souza, announced today, is the remedy the Framers had in mind.

D’Souza was (and is) a strident anti-Obama critic. He committed a trivial campaign-finance violation. This is not to excuse the conduct; it is to reaffirm the principle that the punishment should fit the crime, and to observe that the conduct at issue is typically not treated as a crime at all. Routinely, misconduct of the kind engaged in by D’Souza is settled by payment of an administrative fine to the Federal Election Commission. In stark contrast, the Obama Justice Department not only selectively prosecuted D’Souza; prosecutors turned the case into a multiple felony indictment.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link

Saw a comment somewhere that at least he was a non-violent offender who already did time (right?). Someone like Joe Arpaio, that's much more stomach-churning.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link

Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” This seems increasingly true.

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) May 31, 2018

Simon H., Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link

increasingly

My Favorte People Call Me Dad Soft Toddler (Old Lunch), Thursday, 31 May 2018 22:04 (six years ago) link

it was always true

Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 May 2018 22:04 (six years ago) link

it is to reaffirm the principle that the punishment should fit the crime
i hope he agrees with this for all those black men in prison over a piddlepuff of weed then?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 31 May 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link

gonna stack some avocados

Van Horn Street, Friday, 1 June 2018 00:18 (five years ago) link

why do presidential pardons exist

Van Horn Street, Friday, 1 June 2018 02:51 (five years ago) link

fear of bureaucracy -- but faith in the decisions of the elite electorate -- in the constitutional religion

mookieproof, Friday, 1 June 2018 02:54 (five years ago) link

Pardons For Everyone At The Goat Rodeo!

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 June 2018 03:16 (five years ago) link

We’re all stars in the dope rodeo

i believe that some of these things happened as described, and i believe that some of these things some did not happen as described


“What if we were wrong?” he asked aides riding with him in the armored presidential limousine.

“Maybe we pushed too far,” Mr. Obama said. “Maybe people just want to fall back into their tribe.”

“Sometimes I wonder whether I was 10 or 20 years too early,” he said.

“I feel like Michael Corleone. I almost got out.”

When they parted for the final time, Ms. Merkel had a single tear in her eye. “She’s all alone,” Mr. Obama noted.

“What else did you expect from McConnell?” he asked. “He won’t even give us a hearing on Merrick Garland.”

“I talk about it every time I’m asked,” he responded. “What else are we going to do? We’ve warned folks.” [about Russia]

He noted that Mr. Trump was already claiming that the election would be manipulated if Hillary Clinton won. “If I speak out more, he’ll just say it’s rigged,” Mr. Obama said.

The next day, Mr. Obama focused on cheering up his despondent staff. At one point, he sent a message to Mr. Rhodes saying, “There are more stars in the sky than grains of sand on the earth.”

“I don’t know,” he told aides. “Maybe this is what people want. I’ve got the economy set up well for him. No facts. No consequences. They can just have a cartoon.”

He added that “we’re about to find out just how resilient our institutions are, at home and around the world.”

Afterward, Mr. Obama called a few aides to the Oval Office to ruminate on the encounter. “I’m trying to place him in American history,” he said.

“He peddles” bull, Mr. Rhodes answered. “That character has always been part of the American story. You can see it right back to some of the characters in Huckleberry Finn.”

“Maybe,” Mr. Obama answered, “that’s the best we can hope for.”

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 June 2018 04:08 (five years ago) link

June thread.

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 1 June 2018 07:58 (five years ago) link


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