*didn't want to screw over
― evol j, Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link
The only justification. Maybe she should've just kept it safe and went redux: Aunt Coulter.
― Yerac, Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link
If the network threatened to cancel her show and she relented, then she's stupid, because they're just going to do it again if they don't do it anyway.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:40 (six years ago) link
Should've gone with "feckless...wherever..."
― nashwan, Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:43 (six years ago) link
kinda wish bee had doubled down on her right to say this word or at least accompanied her apology by noting that what she said was not even in the same galaxy as roseanne's remark, but we live in a deeply fucking stupid country that elected donald fucking trump so
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:43 (six years ago) link
Yeah would think it was a precedent one didn't want to set if one is a satire show. JUst wondering if that devalues her doing the show.But then I'm used to the word cunt in English usage and heard it was harder in U.S. usage. But still it is true of the whole family so can a defamation charge be brought against it? Thought that was one of the hinge points.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link
Ivanka is complete and utter trash of course but I'm not happy that SB is just tossing a gift to the perpetually outraged right like this
― frogbs, Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link
But who the fuck cares about them? They're perpetually outraged! You think they're going to just shut up now that they smell blood and want a body of their own?
Just wondering if that devalues her doing the show.
Yes. Because who knows what they are nixing behind the scenes. If you back down for a generic insult under pressure from the White House, what else will you back off?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link
i agree, apologizing does nothing, which is why it's an idiotic move on TBS' part (I'm assuming it wasn't Bee's idea). nothing short of cancellation will appease the chuds.
― evol j, Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link
Michelle Wolff had the right idea, don't back down, double down.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, May 31, 2018 3:33 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think Samantha Bee just might? I mean it's a pretty traditional comedy trope to walk back the blunt phrasing and then twist the knife back in...
I'm not reading her apology so maybe there's less room for that but idk I don't think of SB as being of weaker moral character than MW or any other comic
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 31 May 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link
Her apology is totally weak.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link
I would like to sincerely apologize to Ivanka Trump and to my viewers for using an expletive on my show to describe her last night. It was inappropriate and inexcusable. I crossed a line, and I deeply regret it.— Samantha Bee (@iamsambee) May 31, 2018
What a wuss.
I like Samantha Bee a lot, but she is flat wrong to call Ivanka a cunt. Cunts are powerful, beautiful, nurturing and honest.— Sally Field (@sally_field) May 31, 2018
― suzy, Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link
Yeah, way to go Sally Field, you have more balls than Bee.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link
At least the apology was for the use of an expletive and not the content. All these people embracing being a deplorable are all of a sudden super hyped on "civility."
― Yerac, Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
Civility is the new Personal Responsibility.
Look what happened to annoying Kathy Griffin, who took a hundred hits, backed down, ended up in a worse position, and then immediately regretted it, because the president and his entire family are huge pieces of shits.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
Civility Under Non-Negotiable Threat.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link
Everyone is living in a fucking migraine.
― Yerac, Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link
does a double n make it more powerful?
― Stevolende, Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link
i didn't care for how everyone started acting all pearl-clutchy about "cunt" a few years ago
i can think of few ppl on earth who deserve the designation more than SHS
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link
It's because oeople in the US stopped watching Guy Ritchie movies.
― Yerac, Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link
lol
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:15 (six years ago) link
I instinctively recoil from the insult tbh
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link
That's probably why it was the right word for her to use.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link
oh wait Ivanka, not SHS.
well, anyway.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:29 (six years ago) link
too early to know how this plays out, but most of the ways i see this going are not going to be good for tbs. i don't see how their attempt at "moderation" and "civility" doesn't wind up with their looking like government lapdogs.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link
something something something samantha bee fake outrage something pic.twitter.com/5bc5PPBGOK— Oliver Willis (@owillis) May 31, 2018
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:36 (six years ago) link
i would guess after a hard afternoon's thought samantha bee will come to regret it, and that in the end she will end up doing a segment on it that will end with her proudly calling ivanka every other possible name that you can say on TBS, and it will be funny and feel good to watch but in the end hardly anyone will see it
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 31 May 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link
regret apologizing, i mean
Those blowhard right-wingers who say they’re having nothing to do with TBS never watched it to begin with.
― suzy, Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link
Michelle Wolf is awesome. Her new show isn’t great but she’s easy to admire
― Ross, Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link
Also sally field is a total class act
― Ross, Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link
we really like her!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link
The right uses asymmetrical, dirty warfare while liberals line up in single line formation waiting for a battle of manners no one cares about.— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) May 31, 2018
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 June 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link
But norms! And mores! And traditions! And ... yeah, lining up like red coats.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 June 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link
perhaps predictably, the new episode isn't on youtube.
― koogs, Friday, 1 June 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link
I watched it last night, but on one of the streaming sites. She always swears a lot on her show. It really is the responsibility of TBS who let it go to air. And seriously fuck any person who is "outraged".
― Yerac, Friday, 1 June 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
xpost, it used to be on youtube because that's where I saw it.
― oder doch?, Friday, 1 June 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link
ugh she apologized?? come on!
― flappy bird, Friday, 1 June 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link
Everyone should chill on chastising her for apologizing. She has a family
― synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link
She has to pay bills
Estimated net worth of $7 million. She'll be fine.
― Simon H., Friday, 1 June 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link
I probably have said this before but the key reason why hypocrisy arguments, while completely valid, do not work is because they don't take offense to calling someone a bad word (or racist comments, or anything else), they take offense to calling someone a bad word whom they don't think deserves it.
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link
Oh fuck Simon. Okay reset
― synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link
I cried when she says at the end thank you, I love you.
― synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link
Wrong thread sorry
way to go Sally Field, you have more balls than Bee
sally field does not have a career to jeopardize anymore. it's one of the perks of getting old that it's easier to say whatever the fuck you feel like saying. as an oldster, I appreciate having this freedom. it's liberating.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link
So why does Bee do what she does? Just for the cash? And how mean is she allowed to be, and to whom? John Oliver (and HBO) stood up to a defamation suit for insulting an angry billionaire coal baron. Bee backed down after calling the in the public employee grifter daughter of a dickhead a bad word.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 June 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
TBS barely knows what to do with Full Frontal in the first place. Last Week Tonight is one of HBO's anchor series at this point.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 1 June 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link