Full Frontal with Samantha Bee is amazing

Everyone should chill on chastising her for apologizing. She has a family

She has to pay bills

Estimated net worth of $7 million. She'll be fine.

I probably have said this before but the key reason why hypocrisy arguments, while completely valid, do not work is because they don't take offense to calling someone a bad word (or racist comments, or anything else), they take offense to calling someone a bad word whom they don't think deserves it.

Oh fuck Simon. Okay reset

I cried when she says at the end thank you, I love you.

Wrong thread sorry

way to go Sally Field, you have more balls than Bee

sally field does not have a career to jeopardize anymore. it's one of the perks of getting old that it's easier to say whatever the fuck you feel like saying. as an oldster, I appreciate having this freedom. it's liberating.

So why does Bee do what she does? Just for the cash? And how mean is she allowed to be, and to whom? John Oliver (and HBO) stood up to a defamation suit for insulting an angry billionaire coal baron. Bee backed down after calling the in the public employee grifter daughter of a dickhead a bad word.

TBS barely knows what to do with Full Frontal in the first place. Last Week Tonight is one of HBO's anchor series at this point.

I would guess that Bee does what she does for a complex set of reasons, among which is earning a living, but only as one motive in a fairly long list. What Sally Field does these days is whatever she pleases. She has a lot less on the line than Bee, which makes it much easier for her. It's like playing with the House's money.

I don’t think she should have apologized but the fascist president trying to get a tv show off the air for having criticized his administration seems like the way worse part of this whole thing, regardless of the host’s net worth imo.

The only thing worse than a fascist president trying to get a show off the air, or stop the NFL from kneeling, or virtually anything else he wants to do, is allowing him to do it. Far more expensive and watched shows like Brooklyn Whatever and The Expanse were canceled but then picked up by others. If TBS does not have her back, like HBO has Oliver's, then she is doomed anyway and should be working on her resume.

Agreed they shouldn’t cave.

I don’t think she should have apologized but the fascist president trying to get a tv show off the air for having criticized his administration seems like the way worse part of this whole thing, regardless of the host’s net worth imo.

Well, yeah.

I watch Samantha Bee every week since it started. It's informative and does political/women focused pieces that no one else is doing consistently. She has a very very diverse writing staff as well. (in answer to why she does what she does). She's "mean" on the show but none of her targets in general are undeserving. News is moving so fast it's becoming impossibleto rely on any one news source or viewpoint. No one is ever going to get it 100% without messing up and it's probably bad to think they can, and I guess that's the point of all of this Trump vomit.

I don’t think she should have apologized but the fascist president trying to get a tv show off the air for having criticized his administration seems like the way worse part of this whole thing, regardless of the host’s net worth imo.

"Never apologize to a right-winger for anything" seems like a good approach at least through 2020 and probably into the indefinite future.

Never apologize to anyone affiliated with the Trump admin or family because they’ll never apologize to you, and then they’ll do it to you twice as bad.

none of her targets in general are undeserving

Apparently Ivanka Trump is undeserving.

i saw this moment live and loved it. didnt think us tv had that much of a clear runway. pity i was right.

xpost basically what katherine says above.

the one bad thing though is that all sorts of male maga mouthbreathers now think it's cool to call all women they don't like cunts. Which they already thought it was great before, but now it's really bad.

I generally hate the #resistance habit of thinking cursing = really dropping the mic. It just comes off as frustrated and petty.

Everyone swears (maybe I should check on the swearing thread to see how much people swear). I am wondering a little if her British writer was the one that dropped the cunt in, since it was scripted.

Yeah, but to quote Tom of the Trillbillies, "They don't know how to cuss good"

pettiness is good

I thought feckless cunt had a pop. And who in the world was the first one that started riling people up about it. Like, no one even watches the show.

^ I was wondering the same thing! They should ride their notoriety all the way to the bank

This is all my fault

I thought the right wing issue was not omg potty mouth but how dare she insult Ivanka with the most horrible of words, this is like Rosanne times 100, she should kill herself on TV but apologize directly to everyone forever first. All bets should be off for this bunch of Trump cunts.

I am wondering a little if her British writer was the one that dropped the cunt in, since it was scripted.

I thought we'd established on the other thread that the word is eqaully as offensive when applied to a woman in the UK as it it in the US.

we can all agree that the c word is used more liberally in dear old blighty, tom

I missed that thread. I feel like it's has different value when a woman says it about another woman.

Was that the swearing thread? I only glanced at the top poll.

The word's been discussed in three different threads today! I admit, being a man, I don't know much about woman-on-woman use of the word in either the UK or the US.

If a man called me that, I would think insulting, misogynist, gross, abusive. If a woman of equal or lesser power than me called me that I would think insulting, hmmm maybe I have been a bit cunty.

my partner got some shit from the school recently because she posted something innocuous and friendly on their twitter, but her twitter nom is lazy cunt is what the problem was! The family liaison manager from the school advised her she shouldn't post anything else until she picks a more SFW nom (on deaf ears!).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a man can get away with calling a man that word, and by and large a woman can get away with calling a woman that name. But a man can't really call a woman that word, and I'm not sure a woman would call a man that word.

everything's regional ye aul cunts

i used to call my dog a cunt fwiw

As much as I hate apologizing to these fucks, this was a self-own. You can’t use the c, n, or r word on corporate tv and expect no blowback. You guys can’t be serious.

yep

Her show isn’t live, is it? Seems odd that in between her saying it in front of an audience and all the post-production work and handoff to the network, no one said anything

Really this whole thing is like geological layers of shittiness

But fuck conservatives for equating this with racism
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But Samantha Bee sucks and also saying cunt was a dumb move
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But Ivanka actually is a cunt for enabling this administration's evil
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But Ivanka is not a cunt for tweeting a photo of herself with her son
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The reason this whole thing started is BABIES ARE BEING TORN FROM THEIR MOTHERS

Pretty much. I'd add that it mostly sucked cause there was just no universe where it was funny, though I know being funny is usually secondary to raging out when it comes to "political TV comedy" or w/ever

Like it's part of this awful twitter/media condition we have now where we are addicted to getting outraged about the peripheral while avoiding addressing the core because it affords easier opportunity for owns.

Also I just find the raging out extremely pathetic and indirect, perhaps for the same reason.

Pretty much. I'd add that it mostly sucked cause there was just no universe where it was funny

i mean does anyone here really disagree that ivanka trump is a feckless cunt

though I know being funny is usually secondary to raging out when it comes to "political TV comedy" or w/ever

this is the real problem here imo. the left/liberals have trump derangement syndrome and their comedy is shit.

idk i can't stand almost any political tv comedy shows and bee's is often really well written