Are you all on Woody's side or someting? :/
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 4 June 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
yeah... :/
― Nhex, Monday, 4 June 2018 22:03 (six years ago) link
I would never be on a side that would have someone like me on it
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 June 2018 22:15 (six years ago) link
I mean, who bloody cares? We're not defending a prodigy, and he's made illiterate stupid movies for years. Fuck'em.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 June 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link
He was not in a child custody case when he was accused by Dylan.
― Frederik B, Monday, 4 June 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link
my feeling is that mia and woody are prob both pretty terrible ppl, but i don't think you have to be "on woody's side" to find moses farrow's account as credible as dylan's.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 4 June 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link
ok but fuck woody allen for what he said in that linked piece
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 4 June 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
there are many, many reasons to say "fuck Woody Allen." I don't have any reasons to say "fuck Moses Farrow."
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Monday, 4 June 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
You can choose to believe an account over an other, but let's not pretend like it's less about personal politics than knowing what really happened.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 4 June 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link
Not even Dylan and Mia have said 'fuck Moses Farrow'.
― Frederik B, Monday, 4 June 2018 22:35 (six years ago) link
the moses account has definitely made me question stuff i thought already so i don't have a "side" - it seems strange to be capable of leveling the kind of vehement certainty about this awful, private situation that Fred does
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 June 2018 23:43 (six years ago) link
Woody Allen has only ever been a poster boy for himself.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:00 (six years ago) link
Things we know with 100% certainty about this case: Woody slept with Mias daughter, treated their daughter Dylan weirdly (though the details will remain murky) then began smear campaign against Mia. These are objective facts, with numbers of witness statements and a ruling from a judge. Don't muddy the case more than it is.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 07:04 (six years ago) link
ok boss
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 07:05 (six years ago) link
I mean we can dunk on a director saying he should be "the poster boy for the MeToo movement" just because he hasn't harassed female actors he worked with regardless of what his crimes may be.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 10:13 (six years ago) link
'i didn't harass my female leads, i just made movies where fortysomething comedians date teenagers, nbd'
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 10:32 (six years ago) link
yeah let's all be on celebrity "sides" where nobody knows what the fuck happened
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 11:35 (six years ago) link
hey Fred, is it a smear campaign when you don't know how much of it is true?
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 11:39 (six years ago) link
If this thread has taught me anything, it's to assume that most public figures are human garbage and to be pleasantly surprised on the rare occasion when that isn't the case.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 12:11 (six years ago) link
A friend of mine recently remarked that Jim Henson died too young, and in the back of my mind I'm like "did he?"
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 12:41 (six years ago) link
...
waht
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 12:45 (six years ago) link
I'm still glad that the most scandalous thing to come out about him was that he and his wife were just keeping up the appearance of marriage for a number of years (and that he was dating Daryl Hannah at the time of his death, apparently?).
If any bombshells ever drop about Fred Rogers, I'm officially done with humanity.
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 12:46 (six years ago) link
Old Lunch is right.
My thought-flash was somewhere between "possibly best to refrain from idolizing celebrities, lest they disappoint you," a more pessimistic "some dirt always comes out about even the most beloved public figures, it's only a matter of time" and the deeply cynical black-hearted thought of "exit the stage while you're still a saint; death can be a great career move." I'm not proud of it but the thought did occur to me. I mean, Kevin Clash went from globally admired to nonexistent in like a month.
― emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 12:52 (six years ago) link
Even when it isn't mired in scandal, the inglorious fall of a beloved children's entertainer is a helluva blow (see: David from Sesame Street, or don't if you're still blissfully ignorant).
― On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:04 (six years ago) link
lambchop might have some dark secrets but i doubt it
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link
im still not over those pics of grover shooting up
― laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:13 (six years ago) link
^you joke but those pics of the dad from Alf doing that came pretty close to feeling as bad for inner childhood me as if it had been Grover
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:17 (six years ago) link
correct i joke
i dont feel particularly responsible for the correlation in yr head btwn grover and another person fyi
― laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link
my post wasn't intended to make you feel like you should!
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:38 (six years ago) link
the whole thing is a sorry mess *shakes muppets head*
― laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link
some celebrities make it easier than others to believe the worst about them, re: Woody
― Nhex, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link
California judge Aaron Persky, who in 2016 sentenced former Stanford swimmer Brock Turner to only six months in prison after he was convicted on three counts of felony sexual assault, was recalled from office after Californians voted Tuesday to remove him from the bench. He is the first California judge to be recalled since 1932, and the first in the United States since 1977.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/06/us/politics/judge-persky-brock-turner-recall.html
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link
Wow.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:24 (six years ago) link
hell yeah
― and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link
✊🏼
― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link
Solid. F yeah fellow California voters.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 7 June 2018 05:04 (six years ago) link
this story about the case and the recall is pretty intense
https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/brock-turner-michele-dauber
― mookieproof, Thursday, 7 June 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link
whoa wtf with david from sesame st. I didn't know about any of that. I'm shocked they kept him on the show after he beat a woman with an iron rod.
― akm, Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link
also, Bill Clinton, ladies & gentlemen! (should not do any more interviews, or "write" novels)
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link
to wit:
https://splinternews.com/how-is-bill-clinton-allowed-to-keep-saying-things-1826734797
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link
That event uninviting Monica Lewinsky because Bill Clinton was going to be there was wild.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 09:37 (six years ago) link
i heard clinton on NPR the other week and he sounded so incredibly old and doddering, they should not truck him out for anything at this point.
― akm, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
Off topic but there must be like a million podcasts hatereading that novel by now right
― U. K. Le Garage (wins), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link
Remarkable how much worse Bill Clinton sounds & looks compared to Jimmy Carter, who is 20 years older and survived brain cancer.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link
i wonder if a couple decades of being conspiracied by the right wing hasn't taken its toll, i bet that dude sometimes wishes he'd just pondered a run in 1992 and then decided to retire into some kind of private endeavor.
― omar little, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link
but then he thinks of all the bombing he may have missed.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link
he also lost a lot of weight very quickly on some vegan diet, which can really drew-carey a mfer up
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link
i bet that dude sometimes wishes he'd just pondered a run in 1992 and then decided to retire into some kind of private endeavor.
nooooooooooooooo way
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link
p sure he's stoked he received the most famous bj in American history
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link
There's an alternate universe where he was manager of the most successful Walmart in Little Rock.
― emotional support legume (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link