"He has condemned it" where "he" = Justin Trudeau and "it" = separation of undocumented adults and children travelling together into the US
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link
As usual with him, just fuckin' words. I'd be surprised if any concrete steps were ever taken.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link
Justin is a great advocate for any refugees who don't come to Canada
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link
He's barely even that tbf.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:30 (five years ago) link
Lol @
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said today the Trump administration's policy of separating illegal migrants from their children is "wrong," just hours before the U.S. president signalled he's prepared to change course and end the practice.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-trump-children-separated-1.4713984
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/peter-khill-not-guilty-in-shotgun-shooting-of-jon-styres-1.4723854?cmp=FB_Post_News
Another travesty. The First Nations' life seen by our judicial system as basically worthless.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
Kind of interesting to remember when a 20something female bartender became an MP in an upset election and the Canadian press mostly loled.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 23:22 (five years ago) link
(I'll acknowledge that it was a little different in that she didn't campaign and didn't visit her riding during the election.)
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link
God, that feels like a million years ago.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 23:32 (five years ago) link
None of it surprising, but the swiftness with which Ford is repealing education bills (infrastructure, sex-ed, and native-related curriculum) is, um, impressive. Glad I won't be there (I hope--he moves fast) when he moves on to teachers.
― clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link
I'm mad about it as it is; can't imagine how livid I'd be if I was raising a kid here.
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 July 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link
The similar dedication to reversing 15 years of environmental progress (cap and trade, Green Ontario fund, an almost-complete wind farm) in a month's time has honestly been so stunning that I've been too demoralized to even, like, post on the Internet about it.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 July 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link
It's just such naked revanchism. I've never seen anything like it in Canadian politics - not this blatant, not this swift.
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 July 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-deceit-that-was-the-bc-liberals-case-for-power/
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Saturday, 14 July 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link
Hearing that the TO anti-Ford rally this past weekend was kind of a bust in terms of attendance, both I suspect due to delays (it was originally supposed to happen two weeks back) and general demoralization. Also heard via other activists that some organizers were recommending that members of "privileged groups" consider not attending, which is just spectacularly wrongheaded in my opinion.
― Simon H., Monday, 16 July 2018 13:49 (five years ago) link
Have to say I didn't expect the Tories to roll over so quickly on this: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-sex-ed-changes-1.4748650
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 00:55 (five years ago) link
Unsurprising but still infuriating and exhausting how fast they do this: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-government-cancels-758-renewable-energy-contracts-1.4012449#_gus&_gucid=&_gup=Facebook&_gsc=4ipXTEh
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 21 July 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
FUCK.
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/07/22/toronto-danforth-pape-shooting-injures-several-people_a_23487321/?utm_hp_ref=ca-homepage
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 23 July 2018 03:32 (five years ago) link
Hoping all the ilx Torontonians are safe and sound.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 23 July 2018 03:56 (five years ago) link
CBC says police confirmed shooter is dead.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 23 July 2018 03:57 (five years ago) link
Some people I met recently live v close to that intersection and I'm trying to get in touch
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 23 July 2018 03:58 (five years ago) link
God, I hope the child is going to be fine.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 23 July 2018 04:04 (five years ago) link
Moved the discussion to a new thread: Mass Shooting in Toronto
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 23 July 2018 04:18 (five years ago) link
Any takes from ilx Torontonians on the Doug Ford cuts to the Toronto Council? Seems absolutely nuts to me and don't know how he has such a mandate.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 28 July 2018 01:19 (five years ago) link
Exactly what I posted on Facebook today. Sund4r says that city councils are indeed the domain of Queen's Park.
Isn't that insane? I can see where they'd have some oversight, if one side started gerrymandering in a really obvious way, but cities ought to be able to organize themselves as they choose. Ford's motivations aren't hard to figure out.
― clemenza, Saturday, 28 July 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link
I am beyond enraged over this.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 28 July 2018 01:44 (five years ago) link
It's horrible and it's going to work.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 28 July 2018 02:09 (five years ago) link
I honestly don’t see how this is do-able without pushing the election back. The province still needs to vote on it and then that leaves very little time to basically reorganize a massive bureaucracy. People - who have already started campaigning and taking donations, will be out that money and everyone will have to re-register etc. the timing alone makes the logistics impossible - and I’m sure if it comes to it, a court might have to weigh in.
Then there’s the fact these new boundaries contravene a recent Supreme Court rulling that Toronto has to have even representation (ford’s plan would skew too heavily to the suburbs). So even long term, his thing could get killed before ford is voted out of office.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 28 July 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link
Do you have a link about that Supreme Court ruling?
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 28 July 2018 02:30 (five years ago) link
i can't seem to find anything, sorry.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 28 July 2018 04:51 (five years ago) link
I think it's time we revisit the governmental dichotomy of province/federation and let cities decide a little more for themselves.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 28 July 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link
Also I felt that was otm:
https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/the-secret-no-government-wants-you-to-know-no-leader-has-a-mandate/
Whether the leaders’ ideas are good or bad in these cases is moot—it’s the mechanisms by which powerful politicians turn their ideas into policies that is troubling. Citing a mandate and leaving it at that is simply inconsistent with how we do democracy, which is why mandates are sneaky tools for manipulation. Governments should be accountable and responsive to all the people they serve. Merely citing a mandate chosen by some mythical voter runs counter to this democratic imperative. Instead of offering an open, responsive, inclusive politics, when a politician like Ford cites a “mandate,” he is preparing to steamroll through some policy or law by citing some fabricated moral authority. As voters, if we dislike what the premier and his cabinet are doing, we can protest. We can write scathing opinion pieces. We can write to our representatives to voice our displeasure. We can launch court challenges. We can run for office ourselves. We can vote for another party in the next election. We can dedicate ourselves to reforming the system. That is what we can do. And before we start, we can understand how our system works so that we are prepared to counter the sophistry or ignorance of cynical or lazy politicians who dare wield the wobbly sword of the “mandate.”
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 28 July 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link
If anything, this should be a case--clearly Ford's driven by personal vindictiveness on two or three different fronts--where the federal government steps in and says, "Whoa--back it up, guy."
― clemenza, Saturday, 28 July 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link
Section 92 of the 1867 Constitution Act:
EXCLUSIVE POWERS OF PROVINCIAL LEGISLATURESSubjects of exclusive Provincial Legislation 92. In each Province the Legislature may exclusively make Laws in relation to Matters coming within the Classes of Subjects next hereinafter enumerated; that is to say,...8. Municipal Institutions in the Province.
EXCLUSIVE POWERS OF PROVINCIAL LEGISLATURES
Subjects of exclusive Provincial Legislation 92. In each Province the Legislature may exclusively make Laws in relation to Matters coming within the Classes of Subjects next hereinafter enumerated; that is to say,...8. Municipal Institutions in the Province.
So if there was a SCC ruling concerning municipal-level representation of Toronto city districts, that seems like it would be U&K.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 28 July 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link
(It's a terrible idea that should be fought, though, tbc.)
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 28 July 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link
I just read the Moscrop piece from Maclean's, which is very good and summarizes my point about the constitution, I see now.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 28 July 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link
Don't think I've ever done this, don't think I'll ever do it again, but a link to NOW
http://nowtoronto.com/news/doug-ford-toronto-council/
Disallowance, that's the way to go.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 00:42 (five years ago) link
Trudeau would never have the balls use it. he'd get destroyed the next election for "meddling" despite the epic amount of irony, in that he would be stepping in to stop anti-democratic meddling.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link
http://pressprogress.ca/doug-fords-north-korean-style-news-broadcasts-are-being-funded-with-your-tax-dollars/
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link
I watched that last night! We've got our very own Kayleigh McEnany in Lyndsey Vanstone.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link
Are taxpayer dollars funding naked propaganda?
http://pressprogress.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/vanstone-dougtv.jpg
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Friday, 3 August 2018 02:15 (five years ago) link
Finally read that and, wow, that's infuriating.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link
So apparently we're in a diplomatic battle and trade war with Saudi Arabia over Freeland's criticisms of their punishment of political activisits, which was itself somewhat half-assed but at least a step in the direction. Funniest consequence so far: https://newrepublic.com/minutes/150408/saudi-arabia-threatens-support-quebecs-secession-canada . They might need to take some trolling tips from the Russians.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link
SA threatening to do 9/11 Pt. 2 to Canada is the funniest thing to happen in a long time.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:43 (five years ago) link
This is actually kind of nuts: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-saudi-arabia-to-withdraw-all-saudi-students-studying-at-canadian/
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link
I liked the explanation for this whole thing here https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-saudi-arabias-bold-move-has-nothing-to-do-with-canada/
The timing of the Saudi announcement is also meant to deflect public and regional criticism from another of the Crown Prince’s foreign policy blunders: Jerusalem and the so-called Kushner peace plan. A few weeks ago, the Saudis signalled that they might support Donald Trump’s son in-law Jared Kushner’s so-called Israeli-Palestinian peace plan, which included recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. Reportedly, Mr. Kushner and the Crown Prince have an amicable relationship, and the Saudis were using their economic and political muscle in the region to push the proposal through with reluctant Arab governments, particularly that of Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas. While the Crown Prince has had a long leash from his father, King Salman, the regional and public heat was apparently too much for the older monarch, and in an unexpected move, the King overturned his son’s foreign policy proposal and reaffirmed the long-standing Saudi position on the matter.For a leader who is used to the nationalist support of his young and energized followers, it was time for Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to get the Saudi people riled up again. Enter Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland – a woman, no less. Ms. Freeland’s tweet was easy fodder for the macho Saudi Twittersphere. The resulting poke to the eye of the feminist Trudeau government is a perceived win in the Saudi foreign policy community and a helpful distraction from a few weeks of domestic embarrassment for the Crown Prince over his father’s rebuke.
For a leader who is used to the nationalist support of his young and energized followers, it was time for Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to get the Saudi people riled up again. Enter Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland – a woman, no less. Ms. Freeland’s tweet was easy fodder for the macho Saudi Twittersphere. The resulting poke to the eye of the feminist Trudeau government is a perceived win in the Saudi foreign policy community and a helpful distraction from a few weeks of domestic embarrassment for the Crown Prince over his father’s rebuke.
This is basically the same kind of thing as Trump distracting the media by making a big deal out of the NFL players taking a knee during the national anthem.
― silverfish, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link
disrupting your students' educations to own the libs
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
They might need to take some trolling tips from the Russians.
Looks like they have, at least if we assume that the Russian and 4chan schools of trolling are one and the same: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/saudi-arabia-canada-toronto-cn-tower-9-11-photo-apology
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link
Spent 1-2 hours in the car today, and it was buck-a-beer, buck-a-beer all over 680. Utterly ridiculous.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 03:56 (five years ago) link
Lol
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 03:59 (five years ago) link