Yes KJL
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 28 June 2018 01:38 (six years ago) link
http://bwog.com/2016/12/18/senior-wisdom-daniella-greenbaum/
― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 28 June 2018 02:01 (six years ago) link
How can Dems be the party of Bloomberg if he's a Republican
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Thursday, 28 June 2018 02:43 (six years ago) link
Maybe it's a fool's errand to even respond, but yes, if corruption and political suppression enabled by and in the service of white nationalism completely takes over the GOP, then yes, the Democrats can and will be both the party of Mike Bloomberg and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, I don't even see why this is supposed to be a problem.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 28 June 2018 02:58 (six years ago) link
yeah, like I said above I'd compare it a bit to a tea party/eric cantor situation where the incumbent might just be so complacent that he is vulnerable to a blindside attack. Also, I hate for this to seem a bit cynical, but Crowley is in a pretty tight spot as a white guy representing the Queens of yore against a young and exceedingly likeable latina woman, like it's just going to be hard for him to find any way to go negative on her without seeming like a POS.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, June 14, 2018 8:17 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Is there any polling in the district? I think if you're relying on such a big and dirty machine flush with cash getting 'overwhelmed by surprise', then you're in for a tough surprise.
― Frederik B, Thursday, June 14, 2018 8:21 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 28 June 2018 03:18 (six years ago) link
Sry just need to bask in it a little longer
I mean, I'll paraphrase that, and say that if you want to build a movement to change things, the Intercept are the kind of people you should avoid like the plague. Ocasio-Cortez to me kinda seems like another candidate who confuses virality for movement-building, and I don't know, but they don't seem to have the biggest success rate on the ground.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:31 AM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 28 June 2018 03:23 (six years ago) link
slow-motion instant replay
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 03:23 (six years ago) link
The review room in secaucus says it was a mansplain 1. Yeah, look at that right there, it’s clear from that angle.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 28 June 2018 03:27 (six years ago) link
i am shocked that some hack for Business Insider turns her lonely eyes to Bloomwhine
at least we'd have our second (or third) gay prez tho
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 June 2018 04:34 (six years ago) link
If the rumours are true, a gay prez is but a cheeseburger heart attack/indictment without pardon away from the current prez.
― suzy, Thursday, 28 June 2018 07:42 (six years ago) link
xpost so many barnard fans. Ha, that was the only thing I read about the columnist so I ran with it.
― Yerac, Thursday, 28 June 2018 07:59 (six years ago) link
xp just remember virality (something quickly becoming immensely popular via word of mouth) is somehow a bad thing for elections
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:27 (six years ago) link
cheeseburgerit's just a shot away
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:37 (six years ago) link
lol
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:28 (six years ago) link
― This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link
it may seem like Fred has been oddly quiet since Tuesday, but tbf he often had long gaps in his ilx activity back when he was posting as JoeCrow**KING-OF-QUEENS**
― This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:48 (six years ago) link
There's a little more behind-the-scenes stuff coming out now.
For all the talk of "expanding the electorate" and reviving the Obama coalition in places like Georgia, @Ocasio2018 appears to be the most air-tight proof of concept for it so far. It was a deliberate part of her strategy, and how she defied Crowley poll showing him up by 36. pic.twitter.com/gPegMCkZGk— Daniel Marans (@danielmarans) June 28, 2018
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:42 (six years ago) link
Daniella Greenbaum would just like to point out that she has been otm in this thread
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link
good point to pause and note that 42 percent of eligible voters being entirely ignored and is up for grabs. you can win when you quit ignoring this vast untapped resource.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link
I think there are aspects of her campaign that are and aren’t transferrable to other districts. Abolish ICE isn’t going to be a winner everywhere the way it is in an immigrant heavy district that has been targeted for ICE raids. But finding progressive issues that less likely voters really care about, knocking on their doors, talking to them about it in a clear way, and getting out the vote are what every left-leaning candidate should be doing. And having a good candidate is invaluable.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:27 (six years ago) link
agreed on all that. any time someone starts in on me about how we have to appeal to Trump voters my answer is don't bother trying, get other voters.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link
I think if video and audio of crying and confined children keep coming out, Abolish ICE could well become a solid rallying cry just about everywhere
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link
im rooting for Julia Salazar (FKA Julia Carmel on twitter) next
― flopson, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link
I'm into the trend of objectively hot young relatively-far-left candidates getting run tbh (I also include Kaniela Ing in this). it never hurts!
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link
i know you guys like DSA and stuff but the one thing that makes me uneasy about these candidates is the self-ID ing as 'socialist'. i know ppl think there's a latent socialist majority out there but... idk seems risky to identify that way in america esp if the policies you're running on are not socialism but like, abolishing a govt agency that was didn't exist 15 years ago and having the same healthcare system as Canada. maybe im wrong idk
― flopson, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link
tbf many of them also support nationalizing industries and whatnot, it's just not a big part of the platform for obvious reasons.
getting people comfortable with socialism as a concept is part of the longer-term strategy of normalizing gulags
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link
identifying with socialism is fine in my book, my hesitation is the -- I don't want to say "rampant," but the not infrequent sexual harassment issues that have come up
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link
idk seems risky to identify that way in america
not really so much anymore, as practically demonstrated by Bernie almost winning
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:00 (six years ago) link
an unfortunate side effect of getting a huge influx of young men joining over an extremely short period of time. I don't consider it an institutional problem (more of an individual-chapter issue) but it's definitely been a jaor hindrance in some cities (xp)
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
*major hindrance
still makes me anxious
― flopson, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
bernie almosta won
― under a mand'rin tsar (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link
"socialism" absolutely not the effective scare tactic it once was and AOC normalizing it is going to be a bigger deal than I anticipated at first
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link
I don't like to drop off the "democratic" in democratic socialism. It should be looked at fresh.
― Yerac, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link
cmon now xp
nothing has been normalised
― under a mand'rin tsar (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link
no normal is the new normal
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:07 (six years ago) link
this was two years ago
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2016/02/05/millennials-have-a-higher-opinion-of-socialism-than-of-capitalism/
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:08 (six years ago) link
millenials will have money soon enough
― under a mand'rin tsar (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link
the choice is either move left or move right. best to move left, you're not going to beat the right at their own game.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link
xp that is easily disproven
― sleeve, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link
i think it still has the potential to scare; not as much as race obv but i think it’s still p salient. you’re discounting away the counter-factual where BS won the primary and got slimed for being a socialist. we don’t know how effective that would’ve been. imo, very effective. and like i get calling yourself socialist if you’re doing socialism, but idk isn’t social democrat what these policies are called in most countries? and doesn’t have the baggage. i mean i get why some prefer socialist, has more muscle or something. the word ‘socialist’ kind of stuck out in ocasio’s ad, to me. but i think all the other elements of it were terrific and seem like an awesome model for the new direction of the Democratic (Party)
― flopson, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link
I would qualify pretty much everyone DSA is endorsing as a social democrat, but I don't think that term means anything to the vast majority of Americans. Embracing "socialist" as a label is a handy way to make clear you've got a different strategy and set of priorities, and I'm still not convinced it succeeds in scaring a significant portion of the population.
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link
just seems like an added risk with no reward thing. ive unfollowed most Actual Socialists on twitter but i got the impression they hate nu-DSA
― flopson, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link
that ad is so good. the couple who made its phones must’ve been flying off the hook yesterday lol
― flopson, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link
I'm still not convinced it succeeds in scaring a significant portion of the population.
It got the NRA up in arms. (See what I did there?) And any candidate riling up the NRA is okay in my book.
― Get aboard the flappy bird, departing gate 19 (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link
― flopson, Thursday, June 28, 2018 2:17 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ah yes, nothing like a socialism purity test so that radical left politics REALLY takes off this time
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
re: the ad producers, they're DSA members who call themselves The Means of Production lol
ive unfollowed most Actual Socialists on twitter but i got the impression they hate nu-DSA
such is the left
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
― under a mand'rin tsar (darraghmac), Thursday, June 28, 2018 12:09 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nope
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link
― Simon H., Thursday, June 28, 2018 11:57 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol gtfo
― devops mom (silby), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link