for the record i blame turrican and lbi for extending the convo unnecessarily― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, August 17, 2018 1:50 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, August 17, 2018 1:50 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
While I appreciate that you love a good scapegoat, I had nothing to do with the current clusterfuck on that thread. The way katherine was targeted on that thread was not on - but unfortunately unsurprising.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link
(it also doesn't help that the field -- I don't want to go into details -- is notorious for firing and/or suspending people based on things they say or do in their personal life, and has gotten significantly worse about this after 2016. there's a reason I rarely post about politics, for instance, under my government name, unless it's things like "putting children in cages is bad," and even that kind of thing has cost people jobs in this field)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link
(it isn't music writing)
i think extrapolating all of that based off a few posts in a 5,000 post thread about the 1975 is allowing yourself to spiral to places that are unrealistic and unhealthy but that's just my opinion
― J0rdan S., Friday, 17 August 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link
it isn't really unrealistic when scouring people's old social media posts, going back years and thousands of posts, is a thing that happens in today's world
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
the post has been googleproofed
― niels, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link
katherine, i do think it's smart for everyone to be careful in what they post these days, but I honestly cannot fathom an army of pepes demanding you should be fired from a job because you don't like the 1975
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
do "pepes" (alt righters?) especially like the 1975? i need a vox explainer
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link
well, sure, in this case it isn't the alt-righters I'm worried about
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link
Do u ppl ever just relax and have fun or do u argue abt everything
― F# A# (∞), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link
them's fightin words
― Οὖτις, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
i’d think they’d find matty to be a beta
― maura, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
(xp)
― maura, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link
― F# A# (∞), Friday, August 17, 2018 11:28 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
arguing about things is the opposite of fun, which is why I try to avoid it at all costs. unfortunately, in this case, I didn't avoid it hard enough I guess
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
tbh I think there's a line between "don't have haters" and "don't engage the haters" that's being blurred here
― mh, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link
I don't quite understand what you mean but not originally posting to that thread where my opinion was likely to get me yelled at was my way of not engaging
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
right path, imo
― mh, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
apparently it wasn't the right path because even that wasn't enough
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link
can someone explain what the fierce loyalty for that band is all about? this seems very un-ILM. the whole joke before was that it was hard to find an artist that everyone could agree on. that is actually the reason i wanted to post to ILX and not another messageboard--it's not a fan forum but a community of critics (pro and amateur)
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link
no one should feel like they can't post on a thread because they dislike the artist. threads aren't subreddits.
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link
in this case it's more "no one should feel like they can't write elsewhere on the Internet because they dislike the artist"
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link
They might call you a troll
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link
The horror
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
I don't understand why it's such an unreasonable thing not to want to be called a troll
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
have to consider the source tbh
― mh, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
Because who fucking cares that internet poster and basketball fan Kevin Keller thinks your opinion on emo Big & Rich is bogus
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
if its any consolation I too dgaf about the 1975 (this is based entirely on seeing them perform on SNL once)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
I concur with bacon-loving brony-4-lyfe WGW.
― Melted Belts, Priced To Move (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link
because they're not random people from the internet (which is upsetting enough as it is). these people either are my actual colleagues or know my actual colleagues, and I either encounter them in real life or encounter people who know them in real life, and now an indeterminate amount of them are upset with me or think less of me
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link
no one is upset with you bc you were indirectly called a troll
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
katherine, I'd go out on a limb and suggest that anyone whose opinion of you is lowered as a result of whatever happened in the thread about the 1975s is maybe someone whose opinions are way too easily swayed by basically nothing and therefore suspect as a general thing.
― Melted Belts, Priced To Move (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
this sure sounds like someone who is upset with me
Lmao at being accused of sea lioning bc I tried to engage a writer who posts on this board after their writing was posted to this thread ... Christ alive be more dramatic
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, August 17, 2018 11:51 AM (thirty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link
ok but what does that have to do with the repercussions of being called a troll
the thread is googleproofed, you can stop posting in it now
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link
those ARE the repercussions
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link
I'd stop posting in it if people would stop bringing it up
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link
That is not a response to either your article or Kevin’s remark, it is only the repercussions of your protracted shitfitalso that is deej
― jeremy cmbyn (wins), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, August 17, 2018 8:54 AM (twenty-four seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh so the problem isn't your name, it's that you can't stop having this argument
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link
believe me, I would love if it stopped
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link
that you don't want to have
in a thread you don't want to post in
deej cranking it up a notch while telling someone else to take it down a notch is a bad look, sure
― mh, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
I really don't understand why I'm the one who's being blamed for this when I didn't start it, didn't want it to happen, and would like nothing more for it to end
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
*than for it to end
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
i would like for it to end too. maybe you can help
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link
I gently suggest being willing to disengage.
xp
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
OK, anyone who posts below this line gets a month temp ban
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― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
i'm happy to say that i'm confident not a single one of your colleagues in that thread thinks any less of you because you don't like the 1975
― J0rdan S., Friday, 17 August 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
the "because" isn't what I'm concerned with
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link
lop off the rest of the sentence then and i still think it's true!
― J0rdan S., Friday, 17 August 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link
like, if I did upset anybody I am sorry (I know "I'm sorry if I upset you" is considered shitty but in this case I genuinely do not know whether people are upset with me, who is and is not upset with me, and for what reason). it was not my intention at all, and I realize that "it was not my intention" is meaningless, but I'm sorry
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link
I'd say to walk away. and I say this as someone who's been irritated by a couple work meetings with someone I am sure is acting in bad faith, but I just mentioned my feedback to the right people and I'm gonna forget about it because there's literally nothing I can do and no real effect on the rest of my work
it's the churn that looks bad, never engage with people making bad faith arguments and have faith in the people who aren't acting in bad faith. it's wrestling a pig, you're just going to end up looking silly and get covered in mud
― mh, Friday, 17 August 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link