Street Fight is good, couple of anarchist stoner dads. They put out a lot of episodes so I don’t try to keep up and just listen to the latest episode whenever I have time.
― louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link
yeah they're propbably the most straightforwardly likeable, affable figures in all of nu-left-media-dom
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link
well that confused me for a sec
― challops trap house (Will M.), Tuesday, August 21, 2018 2:54 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
shortly after Simon started this thread last year, your comment upthread ("hi guys") confused me and I actually thought you were Will Menaker for a sec.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link
I thought so too
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link
hahaha i will state for the record that i'm not will menaker, although i am also a soft mid-30s bearded white leftist who is underratedly funny (srsly yall not excelsiing me enough) and knows what cordyceps are, so i can see why yall are confused even w/ the name
ftr my actual podcast doppelganger is travis mcelroy
― challops trap house (Will M.), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link
pls say hi to felix for me :) love the pod
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link
Audio quality on the audiobook is worse than the podcast (at least for Will and Matt, who sound like their mics were tin cans attached to string, haven't gotten to Felix or Virgil yet).
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 23 August 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link
I liked the first and last sections (on the broader world and work/labor) most. The middle was too heavy on well-trod material from the 'pod, with the culture section as easily the weakest. I don't really know who that stuff is intended for. I'm looking forward to reading some very confused/bewildered/bored reviews though
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 August 2018 01:33 (six years ago) link
I just read the intro and yeah I have no idea who this book is for. It’s like Ulysses for internet ephemera. Like imagine getting probably a pretty healthy book deal for something that’s guaranteed national press and using it to do gags about inscrutable two year old Weird Twitter in-joke “the Beer Nerd.” When I did my joke dog book they made me take out a reference to Calvin Johnston because it was too obscure!
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 August 2018 04:41 (six years ago) link
Fun thread:
Popular Democrat: "White genocide is real and it's extremely good" #VerifiedHate pic.twitter.com/ncLwOvsLea— Blue Check Watch (@meme_america) August 22, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 23 August 2018 06:40 (six years ago) link
the clientele on their subreddit all seem pretty young, like lots of 18 year olds talking about how they used to be ‘chuds like two years ago’. i imagine there’s a market for this we don’t fully understand
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 23 August 2018 21:58 (six years ago) link
I've seen a few ex-chuds on there but ex-libs are much more common.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 August 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link
the Harper's review is good and funny but I'd prefer to read reviews from haters
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 August 2018 22:10 (six years ago) link
tons of teenagers & undergrads on the subreddit
― flappy bird, Friday, 24 August 2018 01:54 (six years ago) link
On the Slate podcast: http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/gist/2018/08/chapo_trap_house_s_virgil_texas_matt_christman_and_will_menaker_join_guest.html
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 24 August 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link
The Verge has a profile of the wonderful Natalie Wynn (aka ContraPoints)
“I die laughing every time TheGoldenOne is included in your videos,” writes one commenter. That, indeed, is the point. And it’s bigger than just making a funny for its own sake.The strategy captures a dynamic noted by fellow LeftTuber, film critic Lindsay Ellis, in her analysis of the satire in Mel Brooks’ The Producers. She argues that aesthetics of the earnestly anti-Nazi film American History X are eagerly aped by actual neo-Nazis, but the uproariously campy rendition of Hitler’s Germany in The Producers is not. Real life Nazis are not, Ellis notes dryly, singing “Springtime for Hitler.” In the end, despite all the controversy about the film, it hit them where it hurt.Wynn’s strikes as ContraPoints are similarly surgical, and what parses as lighthearted jocularity or inexplicable sexual attraction at first quickly resolves into a virtual pantsing. It’s a prologue to an elegant crash course in the history of postmodernism and why Peterson’s obscurantism makes him difficult to argue with. Calling Jordan Peterson “daddy” and portraying him as a robot lovingly watching Wynn bathe doesn’t ennoble him; it erodes him. That was made clear when Peterson’s sole response to Wynn’s carefully argued video was a mere “no comment,” when he had thundered at and even threatened more earnest (less flirty) critics.
The strategy captures a dynamic noted by fellow LeftTuber, film critic Lindsay Ellis, in her analysis of the satire in Mel Brooks’ The Producers. She argues that aesthetics of the earnestly anti-Nazi film American History X are eagerly aped by actual neo-Nazis, but the uproariously campy rendition of Hitler’s Germany in The Producers is not. Real life Nazis are not, Ellis notes dryly, singing “Springtime for Hitler.” In the end, despite all the controversy about the film, it hit them where it hurt.
Wynn’s strikes as ContraPoints are similarly surgical, and what parses as lighthearted jocularity or inexplicable sexual attraction at first quickly resolves into a virtual pantsing. It’s a prologue to an elegant crash course in the history of postmodernism and why Peterson’s obscurantism makes him difficult to argue with. Calling Jordan Peterson “daddy” and portraying him as a robot lovingly watching Wynn bathe doesn’t ennoble him; it erodes him. That was made clear when Peterson’s sole response to Wynn’s carefully argued video was a mere “no comment,” when he had thundered at and even threatened more earnest (less flirty) critics.
https://www.theverge.com/tech/2018/8/24/17689090/contrapoints-youtube-natalie-wynn
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 24 August 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link
contrapoints owns
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 August 2018 19:31 (six years ago) link
Chapo: the Playboy Interview
https://www.playboy.com/read/chapo-trap-house
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 24 August 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link
If the audiobook matches up performance to who wrote each part, Virgil is the best writer of the bunch by a long shot.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 24 August 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link
Yeah, Matt’s not much of a writer, Will is more of an editor, Felix just riffs, and Brendan was an actual reporter.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 24 August 2018 23:45 (six years ago) link
And together they became the
― President Keyes, Saturday, 25 August 2018 00:38 (six years ago) link
funny I thought Virgil's chapters were generally the weakest, though the nadir is of course Matt's recycled Prestige TV chapter. they should really just not cover pop culture at all beyond bad conservative agitprop
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 August 2018 01:40 (six years ago) link
i'm 100 pages in and the funniest section of the book so far are the illustrations & descriptions of Wine Mom, App-Hole, Liberal Hawk, etc. I'm assuming those were written by Felix, they sound like him.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 25 August 2018 03:25 (six years ago) link
Felix and Virgil have a sense of timing, Matt and Will are very 'and then and then and then.'
― louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 25 August 2018 03:50 (six years ago) link
I appreciated their extended plug for the prison strike in today's ep. Reminded me to donate.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 August 2018 04:07 (six years ago) link
I can't believe you all are actually reading this
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 August 2018 04:18 (six years ago) link
i'm reviewing it i have an excuse
― flappy bird, Saturday, 25 August 2018 04:41 (six years ago) link
can't knock the hustle
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 August 2018 05:16 (six years ago) link
I stole the audiobook and just treated it like another set of episodes
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 August 2018 07:32 (six years ago) link
Wait, did I just read a playboy link... for the article?
― Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 25 August 2018 07:49 (six years ago) link
bananaman...... welcome to the resistance
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 August 2018 12:20 (six years ago) link
We at Chapo Trap House would like to extend our thoughts and prayers to the family of John McCain and offer them a coupon for 5% off the audiobook version of The Chapo Guide To Revolution: A Manifesto Against Logic, Facts, and Reason. It’s in Vietnamese though.— Chapo Trap House (@CHAPOTRAPHOUSE) August 24, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 August 2018 09:55 (six years ago) link
The offer has expired.— Chapo Trap House (@CHAPOTRAPHOUSE) August 26, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 26 August 2018 23:49 (six years ago) link
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/chapo-trap-house-plumbs-the-most-perverse-possible-outcome-of-trumps-presidency/
The reality is that the voting base that horrifies them so is really a small percentage of people who have been empowered by the alienation of the majority, and of course by gerrymandering and voter suppression. The solution to those problems is a genuine left-wing political movement that liberals simply aren’t comfortable with. So instead they favor a managed, bureaucratic form of democracy.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 27 August 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link
that's a good interview
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 02:03 (six years ago) link
yeah, I'd recommend that to anyone who is inclined to think they're just contrarian airheads or whatever. I don't even think the US Politics thread would find much to disagree with in his analysis there.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 02:51 (six years ago) link
finally, the take I'd been waiting for
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/08/28/chapo-trap-house-book-review-219596
the "no such thing as a neoliberal" stuff right at the top kinda gives the game away though
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link
Do you casually use “neoliberal” as an insult, even though nobody has spotted a neoliberal in the wild since Gary Hart’s 1984 presidential campaign? Do you enjoy history lectures, but only when they are delivered by sarcastic, self-righteous people who conveniently omit anything that conflicts with their ideological worldview?
exquisite
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 13:52 (six years ago) link
great way to kick off your own history lecture which conveniently omits anything with conflicts with your ideological worldview
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 13:54 (six years ago) link
xp unironic yes to all those
― Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link
I haven't read the book per se but "Reading this, I was reminded of George F. Will" is an amazing burn
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link
the middle chunk of that review had some arguments that could at least be hashed out between reasonable parties, too bad he totally gives the game away with all the petulant smarm at the beginning and end.
― evol j, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link
hmm wonder if there was something specific in the book which made this guy mad
https://i.redditmedia.com/y3B7Yiuodx7rsifT8PEGD2VfMEpBru3KkzA9tHEltyo.jpg?w=1024&s=1a09001ec401720b92a47eda32608553
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link
"native to the Web Zone" is like something out of baudrillard
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 16:21 (six years ago) link
Virgil’s campaign was successful:
🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾LET'S GO @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE!🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾 pic.twitter.com/ep0vIw3s2D— Touchstone Books (@TouchstoneBooks) August 29, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
The bookstore appearance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9pOY0ea01Y
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:29 (six years ago) link
is amber not involved in the book?
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link
nope, no amber in the book
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
is she the cappadonna of chapo?
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link
New episode with Stav rules
― flappy bird, Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:59 (six years ago) link