Yeah that’s standard practice (at least here in the uk), to say “allegedly” or “accused of” even when it’s recorded fact they did it As many ppl have pointed out tho a lot of places seem to be going further than this practice demands & obfuscating the nature of the crime completely with passive-voice phrases like “was killed by a car”
― jeremy cmbyn (wins), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link
I know "alleged" is a standard when reporting, but this wording (and it's in almost everything I read about Charlottesville) seems odd to me because it's not "alleged manslaughter" or "alleged murder," i.e. verdicts, or even "allegedly purposefully drove his car into a crowd," i.e. malice; it is "alleged fact that demonstrably happened." put another way, if the allegations were false, then how exactly did a car get driven through a crowd and kill heather heyer?
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
That's to be established in court.
― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
Better to say "Fields is accused by police of driving his car into" etc. etc. and avoid the mealy-mouthedness of "allegedly."
― Eliza D., Wednesday, 22 August 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link
even that is silly -- he was driving the car, correct? and that car was driven into the crowd, correct? so either someone jumped into his car, removed him from the wheel and did it, one of the protesters turned into the Incredible Hulk and shoved the car into the protesters at driving speed, the car glitched out in a manner that someone probably would have mentioned by now, or he drove the damn car
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link
he was driving the car, correct? and that car was driven into the crowd, correct?
we know these things to be true but have they yet been proven in court?
― Bog Dole (stevie), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
think there was something on twitter about moving back in with his parents― devvvine, Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:11 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― devvvine, Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:11 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
There was definitely something about an alt-right youtuber moving back in with his parents in the past few weeks.
― incarcerated moonfaces (how's life), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
and it is lawyer-ordered mealy-mouthedness, yes, out of a fear of being sued
― Bog Dole (stevie), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
I am not gonna get upset that someone - even someone who is manifestly, obviously guilty - is being technically given the deference (in the press, as well as the courtroom) of being "innocent until proven guilty", which is a bedrock assumption of the rule of law.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link
Uh oh:
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/08/23/oath-keepers-announce-national-‘spartan’-training-program-aimed-‘violent-left’
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 24 August 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
Wtf would you allow single quotes in a URL
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 24 August 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link
training sessions around the United States aimed at helping militiamen and “Patriots” prepare for “lethal force” at far-right events in cities targeted for right-wing protests.
p sure holding anything resembling this is a felony
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 August 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link
ahahahahahaaaaaaaaa
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DleLAfXXsAA36-l?format=jpg
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 26 August 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/10hfegXGKVRVNm/giphy.gif
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 26 August 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link
but where did he Facebook that from, then
― Doctor Casϵϵno (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 26 August 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
The Front Lines, obviously.
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 26 August 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link
his sushi security bill would probably be way lower if he just stopped ordering the blowfish. I guess rich people don't realize that most of us don't employ an official food taster. However, he is absolutely correct that his money would be better spent on getting rid of his crabs.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
Fake Yankee Go Home
― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link
I'm so rich and I've blown my fortune trying to destroy your suck-ass country, why won't you respect me?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
oh milo, milo you got mewhinin' from the front line
― Doctor Casϵϵno (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
Wait now there are TWO Crying Nazis? So hard to keep track
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link
womp womp
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
https://giphy.com/gifs/5jYbBSHwMBJwZ06U40
― omar little, Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/5jYbBSHwMBJwZ06U40/giphy.gif ?
― ▫◌▫ (sic), Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link
yes
even the prospect of schadenfreude can't get me to read something one of these fucking bozos writes
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
thx sic
― omar little, Sunday, 26 August 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link
meanwhile, at my fucking shitty alma mater: https://triad-city-beat.com/climate-violence-students-set-stage-clashes-unc/
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 27 August 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link
christ
― faculty w1fe (silby), Monday, 27 August 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link
I tweeted this but Chapel Hill is sure fine with keeping people from out of town away from campus/Franklin Street (not technically part of campus but) when it's people who want to celebrate Halloween, but if it's white nationalists with SS tattoos from out of town and in some cases out of the state? sure, come on onto campus
also that the police are freaking the fuck out about setting confederate flags on fire yet every year during basketball season there are large-ass bonfires and property destruction on Franklin Street but that's A-OK
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 27 August 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link
(there are some issues involved with what's university property and what's Chapel Hill property and who has jurisdiction where, but both UNC and Chapel Hill police officers were mentioned as being there)
Potentially interesting paper on the alt-right’s use of a certain phrase:
https://www.academia.edu/37240375/The_Alt-Rights_Discourse_of_Cultural_Marxism_A_Political_Instrument_of_Intersectional_Hate
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, August 27, 2018 12:40 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i can't remember if this board has yet properly basked in the glory of this, the world's stupidest tweet:
Idea: Any school in America named for a Confederate be named for John McCain. And UNC, instead of putting up Silent Sam commission, a McCain statue
― evol j, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
can't think of anyone who'd have a problem with that
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link
this is legitimately weird. I think i'm having a psychotic break
4chan nerds are photoshopping David Hogg to look female, calling him Daisy, and then having sexual fantasies about their Daisy Hogg memes. I feel like this is some... new, uncharted form of self-own pic.twitter.com/UkbYERuhan— Michael Edison Hayden (@MichaelEHayden) August 28, 2018
― frogbs, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
o_O
― faculty w1fe (silby), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
it's a shitty transphobic joke that doesn't need amplifying
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DltzFnEWwAAV6UK.jpg
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link
good fucking god:
https://spectator.us/2018/09/fbi-questioned-kantbot/
― goole, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
?
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/a38eva/theres-an-international-manhunt-underway-for-3d-printed-gun-activist-cody-wilson
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:13 (five years ago) link
Oof, wish I could say I was surprised
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link
BREAKING: Cody Wilson, the Austin man behind 3D-printed guns who has been accused of sexually assaulting a 16-year-old girl, has been arrested in Taiwan, according to media outlet Taiwan News. https://t.co/Z3Opaa2E1m pic.twitter.com/Bv8eY4UNF8— Austin Statesman (@statesman) September 21, 2018
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:40 (five years ago) link
In other news, penniless loser to address conference of Morrissey's favourite political party.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/sep/23/katie-hopkins-speak-far-right-for-britain-islamophobe-holocaust-denier
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Monday, 24 September 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
xp can any among us name a single guy named Cody who is not a complete oxygen thief?
― suzy, Monday, 24 September 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link
I'd say Cody from popular science YouTube channel Cody's Lab but he's constantly combusting things so
― imago, Monday, 24 September 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svHDHnxYjs4
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Monday, 24 September 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link
IdkThere is a fuckhead named Cody currently sucking the life out of a dozen of my friends via nuisance lawsuits Delete em all imo
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link
https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters/codyportrait.jpg
― milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link
something like 8 out of the top 100 world ranked bullriders are named cody
the only cody i can think of who seems alright is the earwolf engineer but i don't know ihm maybe he's got some dark secrets
― vote no on ilxit (Will M.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link