bananaman...... welcome to the resistance
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 August 2018 12:20 (five years ago) link
We at Chapo Trap House would like to extend our thoughts and prayers to the family of John McCain and offer them a coupon for 5% off the audiobook version of The Chapo Guide To Revolution: A Manifesto Against Logic, Facts, and Reason. It’s in Vietnamese though.— Chapo Trap House (@CHAPOTRAPHOUSE) August 24, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 August 2018 09:55 (five years ago) link
The offer has expired.— Chapo Trap House (@CHAPOTRAPHOUSE) August 26, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 26 August 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/chapo-trap-house-plumbs-the-most-perverse-possible-outcome-of-trumps-presidency/
The reality is that the voting base that horrifies them so is really a small percentage of people who have been empowered by the alienation of the majority, and of course by gerrymandering and voter suppression. The solution to those problems is a genuine left-wing political movement that liberals simply aren’t comfortable with. So instead they favor a managed, bureaucratic form of democracy.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 27 August 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link
that's a good interview
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 02:03 (five years ago) link
yeah, I'd recommend that to anyone who is inclined to think they're just contrarian airheads or whatever. I don't even think the US Politics thread would find much to disagree with in his analysis there.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 02:51 (five years ago) link
finally, the take I'd been waiting for
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/08/28/chapo-trap-house-book-review-219596
the "no such thing as a neoliberal" stuff right at the top kinda gives the game away though
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 12:54 (five years ago) link
Do you casually use “neoliberal” as an insult, even though nobody has spotted a neoliberal in the wild since Gary Hart’s 1984 presidential campaign? Do you enjoy history lectures, but only when they are delivered by sarcastic, self-righteous people who conveniently omit anything that conflicts with their ideological worldview?
exquisite
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link
great way to kick off your own history lecture which conveniently omits anything with conflicts with your ideological worldview
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link
xp unironic yes to all those
― Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link
I haven't read the book per se but "Reading this, I was reminded of George F. Will" is an amazing burn
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link
the middle chunk of that review had some arguments that could at least be hashed out between reasonable parties, too bad he totally gives the game away with all the petulant smarm at the beginning and end.
― evol j, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
hmm wonder if there was something specific in the book which made this guy mad
https://i.redditmedia.com/y3B7Yiuodx7rsifT8PEGD2VfMEpBru3KkzA9tHEltyo.jpg?w=1024&s=1a09001ec401720b92a47eda32608553
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
"native to the Web Zone" is like something out of baudrillard
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link
Virgil’s campaign was successful:
🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾LET'S GO @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE!🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾 pic.twitter.com/ep0vIw3s2D— Touchstone Books (@TouchstoneBooks) August 29, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link
The bookstore appearance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9pOY0ea01Y
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link
is amber not involved in the book?
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link
nope, no amber in the book
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link
is she the cappadonna of chapo?
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link
New episode with Stav rules
― flappy bird, Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link
why is it not surprising the woman involved just happens to be left off
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link
not that I'm a chapo expert but wasn't she in the UK a lot during the time period they were writing the book?
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link
i don't listen to chapo that often anymore - occasionally catch it when my gf is listening - but amber is on it a lot less often than used to be the case i feel? i mean she is the host who has more of a life outside of the show than the others (adjunct prof, writer, activist) while like, felix just games and works out. unlikely that she was excluded
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link
Yeah this was mentioned in one of the book interviews - the day job kept her too busy to write
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
this is only funny because Amber is easily the most #problematic chapo person
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
stav’s story about his grandfather in today’s episode is incredible btw
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link
Amber also mentioned she’s working on her own book, to which her trips to the UK were related
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
if it winds up including "wreckers" in the title or synopsis I'm going to stay far, far away
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link
Hot couch guys might be my favorite Chapo bit ever
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link
Amber's book is about labour organizing history, I think.
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link
Man, Mother Jones going thru some rough times to run Kevin Drum’s shitty column.
So there you have it. These are both proposals for old-school socialism, with the government (or “the workers”) controlling the means of production and doling out money equitably to everyone who needs it. The details are different, and Bruenig at least pretends to have a path for getting there, but you’re not going to like either one if you have a soft spot in your heart for private enterprise.Which I do. Government-run enterprises are almost inevitably run badly and government controlled paychecks are almost inevitably corrupt beyond all imagining. Still, would that be worse than the immense amount of wealth and income inequality that we put up with today? That requires a bit of thought.No, wait. It doesn’t. It would be worse. A lot worse. I think I’ll stick with social democracy aka regulated capitalism, thankyouverymuch. Until the robots show up, of course, at which point we might as well just let them run everything
Which I do. Government-run enterprises are almost inevitably run badly and government controlled paychecks are almost inevitably corrupt beyond all imagining. Still, would that be worse than the immense amount of wealth and income inequality that we put up with today? That requires a bit of thought.
No, wait. It doesn’t. It would be worse. A lot worse. I think I’ll stick with social democracy aka regulated capitalism, thankyouverymuch. Until the robots show up, of course, at which point we might as well just let them run everything
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 August 2018 23:06 (five years ago) link
the first part where they're talking about Beto O'Rourke and Ted Cruz is great because it literally just sounds like they're using the Stavbot, he has almost nothing to say beyond "whoa," "hell yeah," "nice," "noo, fuck no dude," "oh for real?" and his various cackles. But Stav sorta carries the hot couch bit. Great ep
― flappy bird, Friday, 31 August 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link
Strasserism: Actually Good by Amber A'lee Frost
― Neuer write off the germans (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 31 August 2018 11:54 (five years ago) link
That’s more of a Red Scare take, innit
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 31 August 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link
Just arrived. Breaking out the good specs to see what the commotion's about. @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE @willmenaker pic.twitter.com/kzf9VvL5LN— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) August 31, 2018
Chapo: Dr Morbius approved
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 31 August 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 31 August 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link
oh my God
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 31 August 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link
Haha
Chapo Trap House Wikipedia article edited anonymously from US House of Representatives https://t.co/RKhk702k6l pic.twitter.com/6cXTqsV2Yz— congress-edits (@congressedits) August 31, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 31 August 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
A positive review:
Of course, fans of Chapo Trap House will find much to like in The Chapo Guide to Revolution. What about the uninitiated? Well, a book like this demands a certain level of tolerance for vulgarity and alike. Those turned off by masturbation jokes or by passages praising the stunning perfection of the albino twins from the second Matrix film are unlikely to stick with this volume for long.
http://artsfuse.org/173403/book-review-the-chapo-guide-to-revolution-laughing-at-catastrophe/
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 31 August 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link
Politico review otm
― President Keyes, Saturday, 1 September 2018 00:43 (five years ago) link
Yes I am aware you disagree
― President Keyes, Saturday, 1 September 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link
Not liking them or the book is fine but you sure you want to co sign all that other stuff in there
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 September 2018 00:56 (five years ago) link
I already have it tattooed on my back
― President Keyes, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:27 (five years ago) link
I don’t view Scher as a “Politico” writer btw. He’s a freelancer with multiple podcasts and a host of dumb takes who happens to share much of my view about the Chapo a holes
― President Keyes, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link
I’m also a union member and I don’t really view us as the best path forward for human relations
― President Keyes, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:38 (five years ago) link
Sorry yr union sucks
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 September 2018 04:08 (five years ago) link
Also the r/neoliberal subreddit can't be v happy with their erasure in this piece
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 September 2018 04:09 (five years ago) link
Have you lived through the past three presidents and managed to still believe that Republicans and Democrats share a single corporatist overlord?
yes
Do you casually use “neoliberal” as an insult, even though nobody has spotted a neoliberal in the wild since Gary Hart’s 1984 presidential campaign?
Loaded question
Do you enjoy history lectures, but only when they are delivered by sarcastic, self-righteous people who conveniently omit anything that conflicts with their ideological worldview?
No
Well then do I have the book for you!
nice
― flappy bird, Saturday, 1 September 2018 04:40 (five years ago) link
My union remark came across more dickish than I meant it to. What industry are you in PK, and what is it about yr union that disinclines you towards them
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 1 September 2018 04:50 (five years ago) link
My exposure to this crew is limited and the bits I’ve picked up make me think I’d find this entire enterprise insufferable but I want to know if I’m wrong. All immediate contact says smug young Brooklyn beardo dude nerds who live on Twitter and get their kicks from like clever room-of-mirrors in-jokes, think everyone else is dumb, have read some books (let me tell you), are expert leftists but just don’t ~give a fuuuuck~ about decorum and know how the world works and should be at 30.Like that is probably only a partly true and shallow read, surely really good if you dig into it etc., but there’s so much right up front that’s hard to hurdle.
― circa1916, Saturday, 1 September 2018 05:46 (five years ago) link