yeah don't see that at all as someone who has gorged on as many theatrical films as possible during this Year of Moviepass (RIP)there's less middle of the road crap that ISN'T superheroes... well, actually even that's not true
― Nhex, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link
idk I get that less "adult targeted films" get made by the big studios because the superhero stuff is where the money is. it doesn't seem so off the mark. but i hardly ever go see anything that isn't the stuff of which the Dr. appears to disapprove. end of my discussion is there's room in this viewer's brain for a lot of different kinds of movies that do all kinds of different things to it, and comparing them doesn't tell you much about them
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
blame HBO and Netflix...blame THE SOPRANOS, BREAKING BAD and, i dunno, RECTIFIED...blame the new consumption models that let smaller features (like eh, let's say CAPTAIN FANTASTIC) to actually find distribution and audiences outside of the art houses...
popcorn halls are for popcorn pictures. I for one do not mourn the absence of RABBIT HOLE from my recliner-equipped multiplex, and to imagine that if Marvel would simply stop making movies that people of all ages enjoy the floodgates would open for quality grownup storytelling ignores the evidence of dunno fkn WILD HOGS or TRANSFORMERS 6 or whatever.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link
a fair and reasonable point
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link
However, there is less commercial room than ever for adult-targeted filmsthis is a fair and reasonable point.lol no it's not
this is a fair and reasonable point.
lol no it's not
Yes and no. Films are cheaper to make than ever, and the barrier to make a film and get it thrown into, say, Netflix US listings is much lower than older forms of mass distribution. But it's absolutely, 100% true that the "middle budget" films (of the type Alexander Payne, PT Anderson, Todd Haynes etc) are getting funded less and less. There may have been a slight uptick recently due to the influx of streaming production cash but we're definitely a far cry from the era when "adult-minded" dramas routinely populated the top 10/20/30 grossers of a particular year.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link
"ethan hawke/logan wars"??????? film twitter is hell
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link
tbf all twitter is a garbage sewer
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link
Today’s adult-adults (25-40) generally watch movies at home unless there’s a minimum of 10 cameras and 15 server farms involved, in which case they might buy a ticket if they heard it was real good. There’s just a lot of other things to do! Movies are no longer the pre-eminent time waster - just like ballgames aren’t either. Hey look what I can do with my phone look see this I’m oh wait hang on typing
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link
In a world where wars are sparked by poor reading comprehension
― Just eat a hamburger, it'll hit the spot. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link
...one celebrity with an opinion about a movie can stoke the bad faith of twitter dorks into a frothing nerdgasm.
― Just eat a hamburger, it'll hit the spot. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link
been avoiding the whole thing. I don't take Ethan Hawke especially seriously to begin with but it doesn't sound like he said anything especially controversial.
LOGAN is a good test case though. It's not MCU, it has a couple of moments and Patrick Stewart but it's mostly crap, and hey, the rest of Mangold's more adult-targeted "serious" work is also mostly crap!
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:05 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I get that one person can like a diversity of films, sure, I do. I truly enjoyed some MCU films and seen almost all Bresson films. However if you live outside a major metropolitan area, one that cannot sustain having a selection of art houses cinema or the presence of decent film festivals, well you probably know how hard it is to get to see some films. I'm lucky here in Montreal because we get to see a wider selection of french film but virtue of the language but boy it's a hunt still.
I won't say anything new to anyone on this thread but basically, the distribution game is rigged and has been rigged for a long time. While I'm not asking for the good ole CanCon documentary I produced to be in 2000 theaters across the continent, more antitrust laws like preventing blockbuying would give us a bit of that breathing room we need to live of our profession. So when those super hero movies are shitty, like Fantastic Four, and they are busts but still cover 5% of the screen time in the entirety of Quebec for 3 weeks and my friends and I have to scrap some sessions at the art house who is forever on the verge of closing down then yeah, I'm mad at the very existence of some of these films. I fully stand by Hawke's idea that when you get to make big movie at least put some love in it and abide by a standard of quality to ensure the film will be good. I haven't seen Logan so I can't vouch for it, but surely you can think of another shitty blockbuster, or another superhero blockbuster that can replace it.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link
another fair and reasonable point
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link
Remember when Ethan Hawke "wrote" a novel?
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link
Marvel has apparently secured studio space in the UK and rumors are bubbling up that a Captain Britain movie may be underway. Which I find potentially very exciting (particularly if it might lead to an Excalibur film down the road). Less exciting are the rumors that it is to be helmed by Guy Ritchie. Hmm.
― I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 September 2018 12:18 (five years ago) link
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― 🧛🏻♂️ F A T 🧛🏻♂️ D R A C U L A 🧛🏻♂️ (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 21 September 2018 12:20 (five years ago) link
Like this idea, which strangely had never occurred to me before, could (in the right hands) be my most favored MCU project yet. The Moore and Delano runs on Captain Britain and then up through the end of Davis's solo run on Excalibur are some of my favorite comics ever.
― I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 September 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link
I re-watched Spider-Man: Homecoming last night (second time seeing it) and I think -- to the extent that ranking these things matters, which is "not at all" -- it's a top five out of all of these. Skips the origin story, ties in well into the other movies, a villain with understandable motives and who isn't the victim of some experiment gone wrong, ace performances from all involved. And a lot happens in it! But it never feels overstuffed. Like so many of these characters, Peter is often a victim not of the bad guys, but his own overconfidence and hubris -- but it's an understandable, youthful hubris. He's 15, and this is the one thing he's really good at aside from school, and it's much more rewarding; why not concentrate on it, and why not try to go big time? That's how kids think!
The whole segment from when Peter first shows up at Liz's house and Keaton answers the door, to when he gets out of the car in front of the school, is so great. A lot of good "eye acting" from Holland and Keaton, and I love that it's Liz's mention of the "Stark internship" that gets her father suspicious.
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Friday, 21 September 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link
― 🧛🏻♂️ F A T 🧛🏻♂️ D R A C U L A 🧛🏻♂️ (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 21 September 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link
how could you forget
"is there a name or a phrase for or anything much written about that distinctly British CREEPY VIBE prevalent in TV shows and movies of the '60s/'70s? (e.g. The Prisoner, Sapphire and Steel, Baker-era"
― Number None, Friday, 21 September 2018 12:46 (five years ago) link
aye, it just slips right off the tongue right enough
― 🧛🏻♂️ F A T 🧛🏻♂️ D R A C U L A 🧛🏻♂️ (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link
actually you know who'd be a good captain britain is henry cavill - a giant side of beef who's not too smart and is kind of an asshole is a much better fit for cavill's vibe than superman
― 🧛🏻♂️ F A T 🧛🏻♂️ D R A C U L A 🧛🏻♂️ (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link
That is precisely who a large number of internet denizens are pushing for, apparently. Careful what you wish for...
― Mummenschanz in a Metal Mood (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link
it's a top five out of all of these
the last 30-40 mins felt really draggy to me
there's a weird buildup to the homecoming then it only gets five minutes screentime
overall it's great though. it's overlong but it's a great hangout movie so length = more time with fun characters
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 21 September 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link
karl urban would be a great captain britain
or wolverine
or almost any male superhero tbh
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 21 September 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link
karl urban cannot be allowed to do anything which would prevent him from being judge dredd again
― 🧛🏻♂️ F A T 🧛🏻♂️ D R A C U L A 🧛🏻♂️ (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link
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― CRABCORE’S NOT DEAD (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 21 September 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link
Ha:
best shit i ever made 🤣🤣🤣 pic.twitter.com/BurNtpRqcm— Bryan 🍥 (@matte_bIack) September 22, 2018
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 September 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link
karl urban would be a great captain britainor wolverineor almost any male superhero tbhHe's already had a sizable role in the MCU, it'd be a bit weird if they recast him as someone else. Tho they did do that with Alfre Woodard, but her earlier role was fairly minor.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 05:43 (five years ago) link
Nah just give him multiple roles like Jack Nicholson in Mars Attacks
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 06:35 (five years ago) link
Chris Evans is on film as the Human Torch and Captain America. They could probably start recasting the same actor in different roles and by now few would notice. Especially someone like Urban, who does a pretty good job disappearing. That is, that the same guy that can play Bones in Star Trek can play various heavies in the MCU or otherwise is pretty impressive. Acting!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 12:15 (five years ago) link
Fantastic Four =/= MCU! At least not before now. Since the Fox acquisition I expect a watchable MCU FF movie at some point down the road.
― Mummenschanz in a Metal Mood (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 12:41 (five years ago) link
just have brad bird direct, he's already done a couple of convincing practice runs
― heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 12:43 (five years ago) link
Do we have a Karl Urban thread?
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 12:46 (five years ago) link
do we need one?
― heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 12:46 (five years ago) link
Dude
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 12:48 (five years ago) link
look i’ll happily participate with endless posts about dredd if u wanna start one
― heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link
(as long as it’s called ‘URBAN HYMNS: a thread of karl urban appreciation’)
― heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 12:52 (five years ago) link
Oh hey so I slept on it way too long but I'm happy to report (halfway through the season thus far) that Cloak and Dagger is actually better than some of the Netflix shows. So, y'know, check it out.
― Mummenschanz in a Metal Mood (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link
'cloak and dagger: better than iron fist!' raves ilxor dot com poster old lunch
― heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:24 (five years ago) link
Consistent, focused, compelling characters, well-acted, etc. It might actually help that there isn't a capital-v Villain per se (the big bads are a crooked cop and Roxxon, basically).
― Mummenschanz in a Metal Mood (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link
and no finn jones!
― heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link
I thought season 2 of Iron Fist was much improved (I mean, how could it not be), but this is still at least maybe three times as good.
― Mummenschanz in a Metal Mood (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link
I watched the Cloak & Dagger pilot and was immediately put off by "Hey, attempted rape as a character motivation/plot point AGAIN" thing. I'm so sick of it. It's what made me not watch Bates Motel after seeing it happen to Vera Farmiga in the pilot.
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link
Writers, there are other ways to push your female protagonists to their crisis points without raping them. See if you can think of some!
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link
Shang-Chi film announced. Figured he would eventually pop up among the Netflix crew but, uh, it sound like all them shits are being cancelled.
― all lite up and very romatic (Old Lunch), Monday, 3 December 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link
Surprising choice but if they channel the Moench/Gulacy years I'm all for it. Presumably any Sax Rohmer characters would be renamed.
― WmC, Monday, 3 December 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link
I figure Avengers 4 will have a title announced any time now, so the promotion machine can get going. 1st trailer at xmas movies, etc.
― WmC, Monday, 3 December 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link
trailer is on Wednesday. There's a new Captain Marvel trailer tonight
― Number None, Monday, 3 December 2018 23:35 (five years ago) link
oh nice x2
― WmC, Monday, 3 December 2018 23:37 (five years ago) link