despite complaining about the boringness of a whole year of ravnica I'm actually really feeling the first handful of preview cards
― ciderpress, Monday, 3 September 2018 04:50 (five years ago) link
It looks good and I am so ready for rotation. Bailing on the shortened rotation schedule was an incredibly stupid move.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 3 September 2018 05:37 (five years ago) link
the core set looked really boring, and I more than got my fill of Dominaria, so I'm also looking forward to a new set. the new mechanics and revealed cards look fine, nothing earth-shattering, but I generally prefer multicolor blocks. also, I keep forgetting the name of the set because Guilds of Ravnica is basically the same as Ravnica: City of Guilds
― Vinnie, Monday, 3 September 2018 12:23 (five years ago) link
http://mythicspoiler.com/grn/cards/assassinstrophy.jpg
this card is insane
― iatee, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
is it the first 2cmc 'destroy target permanent'? i can't think of another.
what is the flavour of this card??
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link
it's probably the first 2 cmc vindicate, and it's instant speed. this is the most pushed card since the delve stuff imo.
― iatee, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
nice card
it's weird to call these efficient removal spells pushed though, they're never going to break the game like the delve draw spells or whatever. i don't think this is a bigger deal than fatal push
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
lmao
http://mythicspoiler.com/grn/cards/imperviousgreatwurm.html
― frogbs, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
it's funny, obv it is a powerful card but i wonder if there is a modern deck that even wants this? e.g. jund, would you swap any number of terminates or abrupt decays for this?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
the big convoke beefer that had me rolling my eyes was the 7/5 hexproof uncommon. why does every set have to have a variation on a large hexproof dork now?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
in bigger formats abrupt decay hits a really high % of things so this might be relegated to sideboard
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
if I were building a jund deck I would start with this as a 4-of
― iatee, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
being able to hit lands is no joke though
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
yeah, in legacy half the decks literally don't play basics
in modern, jund gets perpetually wrecked by stuff like tron-lands
― iatee, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link
I'm sure everyone's experienced dying to inkmoth nexus with an abrupt decay in hand
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link
ah v good point, ghost quarter alternate mode is definitely relevant, hadn't considered that
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link
This seems straight up better than Decay in Modern. How relevant is can't be countered at this point?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
in modern, vs death's shadow + stubborn denial (but this also has the upside of hitting angler) or maybe like, goblin electromancer + remand type situations. it's pretty low-relevance, there aren't any real delver decks at the moment. the get-a-basic drawback matters a little more, since your opponent is probably doing something stupid and you're ramping them.
in legacy counterbalance is still around (and was the reason abrupt decay was printed) and daze is never going away, so it matters more, but the card is also more powerful in legacy.
― iatee, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link
death's shadow seems to be rapidly dying out in Modern
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
yeah I thought it was overrated even when it was good
― iatee, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link
a deck like jund in particular, with a resource denial element, suffers from giving the opponent a land
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
the can't be countered text on abrupt decay was a pretty big deal vs delver, before RTR uwr delver was a major modern deck and it pretty much vanished because that card swung the midrange matchups away from it too hard
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link
well that card plus deathrite shaman i should say
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
i forgot how cringey izzet spell names are
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link
guild aesthetics tier list
A tier: selesnya, orzhov, rakdosB tier: golgari, simic, azorius, dimir, gruulC tier: izzet, boros
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link
Trophy currently getting snapped up at $20 a pop
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 10 September 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link
it's a large set rare cmon
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 September 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
2 color too
this isn't a bigger deal than abrupt decay which was like 5-8 bucks during its standard run iirc
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 September 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link
stil sad about Mt. Gox
― Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Monday, 10 September 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
http://mythicspoiler.com/grn/cards/guildsummit.jpg
i hope this is a fun card to build around in draft, but it looks like it might be a clunky trap. maybe a sideboard card for a control match up when your deck already wants gates.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link
ionize is clean
district guide is a candidate for my favorite card in the set
art in this set is standing out a little more than usual too
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link
3u draw 2 instant with jump-start - better than hiero illumination? is amonkhet even in standard anymore? probably overall better than glimmer was too, esp in a world without gearhulk
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
amonkhet was never in standard
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link
but yeah that's obv the glimmer equivalent going forward
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link
still hilarious to me that after rotation the standard ban list is going to consist of "the second best red 3/3 for 3"
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link
based on the 2 spoiled so far, the new guildmages are a little sad compared to their predecessors
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link
they're more old-school guildmages
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
gates instead of basics in every booster and an explosive vegetation that also gets gates. this set is going to be so good for both draft and sealed.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 September 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link
knight of autumn is unreal
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 13:28 (five years ago) link
i still had harmonic sliver in my modern deck a few years ago, how far we've come
this cycle of AABB uncommons all seem very good, the tension between getting those out on 4/5 lands vs ppl wanting to play 4/5 colour decks is going to be really interesting i think. everyone is going to want gates, which will slow the format by at least a turn on its own. will also be very interesting to see the common 1-3 drops in red and white, figure out how strong a gateless aggro deck might be.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 September 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link
yeah i assume the idea behind those is to have a payoff for playing a 2 color deck that's not accessible to the guildgate abusers
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link
glad they acknowledged the issue i had with the last ravnica go around esp gatecrash where with 5 guilds and 8 drafters, 2 people would always come away with much tighter decks, the solution being to push more people into 3+ colors
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 13:53 (five years ago) link
I'm really enjoying the pvd/sam black/mike sigrist podcasts, I'm not a podcast person at all and it's def the first magic podcast where I feel like it's worth it to listen to every episode
― iatee, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link
gerry t's podcast is the only one i feel like that about
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link
it's obv not as relevant if you don't play a lot of constructed though
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link
yeah I like gerry t but don't play enough standard to care
― iatee, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
i've caught pro points once or twice and it is good, PV and sam in particular are smart, articulate, interesting dudes. i listen to the first couple of episodes of lord of limited after a new set comes out, those guys are very good at quickly nailing down a few key things about a new draft format in a way pre-LSV LR used to be.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 September 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
I'll check that one out. LR has always been kind of wack, they have a pretty narrow minded approach to the point where in certain formats it's been easy to identify the LR listeners just by how they draft and play
― ciderpress, Friday, 14 September 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
man these spoilers are really making me wanna get back into Magic Online
― frogbs, Friday, 14 September 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link