Baby Boomers vs. Generation X vs. Millennials

What is non-hackish about the theory in the first place?xp

my sign is the one all the people who make memes hate

i like all the signs and i also make astromemes.

gen x people are like boomers junior

I'll admit to not having read the whole book but my understanding is that Strauss and Howe did intend for their 'generations' to be the span of a 'season of life'

Still, I don't think they're attributing intergenerational differences to anything other than outside influences. The theory seems to be based on the assumption that culture (meaning all outside influences) is always changing. If culture didn't change in let's say a 50-year span there would be no reason to say a mother & daughter belong to different generational cohorts. (I haven't read the book either, so...)

but astromemes, and a bunch of ppl who are into them actually discuss this -- often reduce signs to stereotypes

like, if I were a Taurus, I'd be kinda annoyed at how all the memes about me involve food

As crazy at it may seem, despite all the shared values, experiences, cultural touchstones and what not, not just of our generation, but all belonging to the solid phalanx of one specific year in one specific city, all the members of my graduating high school class now exhibit a wildly diverse array of opinions about politics, religion, society and morality. Blows my mind.

i'm a virgo and have no idea what astromemes say about virgos but historically what people say about virgos has never made me feel good

ppl also discuss the fact that Beyonce has a Scorpio moon, and that is why she is awesome, despite being a Virgo

Still, I don't think they're attributing intergenerational differences to anything other than outside influences. The theory seems to be based on the assumption that culture (meaning all outside influences) is always changing. If culture didn't change in let's say a 50-year span there would be no reason to say a mother & daughter belong to different generational cohorts. (I haven't read the book either, so...)

The fact that culture is always changing is actually a reason why I think dividing people into discrete chronological cohorts of x years is such a flawed enterprise.

I'm glad we're all here rather than in the politics thread.

I fucking hate all of you

― Paleo Weltschmerz (El Tomboto), Wednesday, September 5, 2018 2:44 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

won't be the first one to

I <3 Virgos! They have an innate intellectual curiosity, they work hard, they are organized, and care about details and things that are useful and functionally important

afaict all possible properties have been attributed to all possible signs and all possible generations

relatedly, all foods will eventually be found to cause all possible health outcomes

(Culture obv changed during the 'Boomer' years as much as it did between the 'Boomer' and 'X' years. And the outside influences on people of different races, classes, genders, etc within a cohort are going to be very different, for a start.) xp to self

people are alike in some ways and different in other ways but in most ways, in the aggregate, they are more alike than different and have been for as far back into the past as we can peer

I <3 Virgos! They have an innate intellectual curiosity, they work hard, they are organized, and care about details and things that are useful and functionally important

― sarahell, Wednesday, September 5, 2018 1:56 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Furiously taking notes on how to be a better Virgo rn.

every single piece of astrology content on capricorns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrK-FwELA7I

I <3 Virgos! They have an innate intellectual curiosity, they work hard, they are organized, and care about details and things that are useful and functionally important

<3 it's not sexy but i'll take it!

Can we make an astrology board i could get into it

one of my fave memes is "roommate cleans negative energy with sage while you clean rest of the apartment" and the person cleaning the rest of the apartment is Virgo or Capricorn. Capricorns are rad too!

I found astrology intriguing when I was a child but if anyone tried to talk to me about my sign rn I would probably curse at them

TBF I am probably not the best representative of common Virgo traits because I'm basically a walking disaster in many ways (gen x represent!).

I fucking hate all of you

― Paleo Weltschmerz (El Tomboto), Wednesday, September 5, 2018 11:44 AM (twenty-one minutes ago)

typical Aries

TBF I am probably not the best representative of common Virgo traits because I'm basically a walking disaster in many ways

It's likely that you have some other planets that are badly aspected w/Virgo ... which creates inner conflict. Also the fact that you consider yourself a "walking disaster" because you feel like you are not living up to some standards or other, is very much a Virgo trait

Culture obv changed during the 'Boomer' years as much as it did between the 'Boomer' and 'X' years. And the outside influences on people of different races, classes, genders, etc within a cohort are going to be very different, for a start.

Sometimes there are big jumps or disruptions in culture that allow you to see a clear before-and-after picture though. The problem is these moments don't often coincide with one other and that's why breaking gens down by particular years is so iffy. And this kind of theory is obviously a macro kind of thing that you can't look at on a micro level. Yeah, everyone is different; people even go through their own personal evolutions.

Like, the basic theory seems to have been that 'seasons of history' occur in a fixed cyclical pattern and that a 'generation' who passes through a 'season of life' during one of these historical seasons is going to have a number of characteristics, values, and behaviours in common. xp to self

Sometimes there are big jumps or disruptions in culture that allow you to see a clear before-and-after picture though.

Yeah, that's true that e.g. people who go through a world war or depression together may have some major shared life-changing experience but I don't think there's enough like this to support the idea of 'Generation X', 'Millennials', and a generation that is being defined before it even has much life experience.

Anyway, I should read the whole book so I can hate it more authoritatively.

Waste of time, you’re probably guessing what it says just fine.

https://sayingimages.com/wp-content/uploads/capricorns-how-you-see-yourself-how-others-see-you-capricorn-meme.jpg

https://78.media.tumblr.com/a30133f9ffc02bfb9f7839ddddfbee00/tumblr_pbbd22Z3m01xxu1gfo1_640.jpg

xxxp Agree with that... I mean I've seen major lifestyle changes due to internet & mobile phones etc. but it's debatable how much effect all that's really had on people and of course more than one generation has had to deal with it.

anyway, Capricorns are obv badasses

see this is a perfect example of being portrayed as a fucking dick

"please believe in this thing we made up, also we hate you"

it is definitely true that no generation has learned different lessons from the same event because it happened when they were in daycare at the time, instead of watching the same event happen as they got ready to start their first full-time job or go off to college.

we have been at war in Afghanistan for 17 years. this has had no substantially different effect on people whether they were born in 1980 or born in 2000. totally provable statement.

Obama would totally be the same person if he had been born during the 1930s. Makes no difference. People are all different and also the same! Shrug a lot and wave your hands around at the uselessness of trying to model anything with less than absolute precision.

But wait so what if Obama had been born with a Kuato, what if that

that makes him a gemini right? that makes the most sense

i'm upper mississippi and i'm on the go
my zodiac sign is the virgo

xxp - so many ilxors adore "angry goat on roof"

also the newspaper memes are all kinda like that

the uselessness of trying to model anything with less than absolute precision.

The difficulty is not that the models derived do not apply broadly to tens of millions of people in aggregate, but that they are often presented as saying something valuable about individuals within that aggregate. A statement such as 'Gen Xers want this, hate that, or view this other thing with suspicion' is so ill-formed that it is either without useful content or else simply a falsehood, depending on how you interpret it. A statement such as Gen Xers are 15% more likely than other cohorts to say they want this, hate that, or view this other thing with suspicion, has some value.

generations and astrology are both horseshit y'all fyi lol

TBF, so are most other means by which we aspire to condense the sum of a person or a people.

I am undescribible.

this is a board in which we are trying to settle on the exact definition of a "New Jersey," let people have their memes

New Jersey is a Virgo too :)

generational differences can include things like "before and after the polio vaccine," but I can understand how that might seem abstract to most people here

astrology is closest to the longitudinal "hey everybody acts like this if you watch them long enough" Saturn's Return dumbassery

but yes latitude and longitude same thing shrug lol

they're both just lines right

don't try to tell me any different i don't have time for your explanation i'm a goddamn moon in aries you son of a gun

okay so here's another mean meme

https://78.media.tumblr.com/04f6c3734e17535b66071d104422a7c1/tumblr_p5givgAp0T1x95nrqo1_1280.jpg