rly id question the motivations of anyone that defended someone worth $180m verbally assaulting (in fact, calling them 'a thief') an official presumably on not much more than an average kinda salary.
on national television.
for not bending the rules to suit their exceptionalism.
maybe everyone should give us their net worth and annual income and we'll use that to judge how this plays out idk
― lee guacamole (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 September 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link
ok look ill go
savings c. 5k eurosalary c. 53k euro but after deductions and savings prob idk 29k?decent pension tbfno houseno carrent/bills 900k a month
― lee guacamole (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link
or was the main point that all portuguese ppl are racist again idk
― lee guacamole (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link
I legit can’t tell when you’re trolling. I don’t see money as a relavent factor in this argument — and I actually think that the insinuation that Serena’s wealth somehow inoculates her against bias is a weird dodge.
― rb (soda), Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link
How in the world can anyone argue that she has not been on the receiving end of a disproportionate amount of scrutiny lately?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link
i legit cant tell when anyone is trolling soda. but if the assertion is that only one side of this discussion can so simply dismiss the other without recourse to much more than their personal characteristics then lets clear a table and lets talk no war but a class war and all that
xp idk, i wasnt arguing that, i said what was in my post above.
― lee guacamole (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link
i mean i get that the agenda is to make this about more than the application of the rules to a sporting event but youre begging an enormous question in even stating that, because its rather a core issue in whether someone can take a position of "wait isnt this a clear case of taking the piss a bit from serena" without being guilty of trolling or yknow "europeans are racist"
― lee guacamole (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link
Fair point - sorry to read you uncharitably.
― rb (soda), Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
I feel bad for naomi osaka
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
well she's young, it's still possible she'll win several more majors and her talent can become a symbol for the political views, applause gifs and hopes and dreams of the world
― FernandoHierro, Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link
idg why 'coaching' is illegal -- what, exactly, is mourataglou telling serena (with hand signals!) that she doesn't already know?is it really the umpire's job to survey the crowd looking for coaching? maybe the official coaches, at least, should be required to sit in a press box where they can't be easily seen, if this is such a terrible transgression― mookieproof, Sunday, 9 September 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
is it really the umpire's job to survey the crowd looking for coaching? maybe the official coaches, at least, should be required to sit in a press box where they can't be easily seen, if this is such a terrible transgression
― mookieproof, Sunday, 9 September 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I mean coaching (or more accurately tactical advice) can help right? The umpire can easily tell when a player is looking at the box and whether they are exchanging looks or something more. I do want this to remain illegal -- you want the player to figure out his opponent, ideally -- although I am not particularly fussed.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link
FernandoHierro is here -- upping the ilx white and male quote where will it end.
location?
also v disappointed u of all ppl dont want asset wealth taken into account ffs
― lee guacamole (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link
I mean there really isn't much to discuss here. I just like taking jabs at people in authority who are at best overzealous/unchill. This case is pretty clear cut in the sense that going for a "coaching" warning was a dumb thing to do during a championship game and it was dumb to take away a game without warning etc.. It was dumb for Serena to smash her racquet etc.
I mean discussing bias was/is interesting. It can cover sex, gender, race, wealth entitlement, unconscious bias.
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link
Del Potro has just been broken in the 1st set :-(
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link
Djoko on his way: 6-3
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
key moments: delpo 15-30
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link
Huge game, adv Delpo.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
Holds, but he needs to put some pressure back..
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link
Another BP for Delpo, Novak has the answers tonight..
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
Breaks :-(
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link
god I hate this.
Djokovic Gets Into Argument With Same Umpire Carlos Ramos at French Open, multiple violations did not result in docked point or game. https://t.co/qkZv2SNE7O— Has The Umpire Been Fired Yet? (@AgentTinsley) September 9, 2018a thread of ramos' recent history with players― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, September
1) “you’re losing your mind” is not remotely in the same league as “you’re a thief” and “you’ll never work one of my matches again in your life.” get real man2) the video said he was assessed a warning, so if he had already been assessed a warning for coaching and a pint for racquet abuse....
― k3vin k., Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link
Delpo really ripping a couple of FHs..
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
30-30 on Djoko's serve..
1st BP and he needs to somehow take it..
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link
fucking hell long.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link
got it at the 2nd, come on!!
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link
youd almost miss deejs piercing subtlety tbfh
― lee guacamole (darraghmac), Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:29 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Per
deej, for all his faults, is a genuinely thoughtful person
― k3vin k., Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
4-3, Delpo finally in the match. Its a tough level to keep up tho'.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link
down the line screamer from Delpo for one more bp!
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link
on deuce..it's becoming epic.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link
another screamer, one more bp!!
long!!
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link
This...goes on...another deuce
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link
jesus lord, nearly 20 min game here. another bp saved.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
Djoko holds a 20 min game...he went up to the umpire to ask about the ball change and engaged Del Potro in that...interesting, is all I'll say.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link
Fairly easy hold Delpo: 5-4
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link
getting a sinking feeling about the tie-break
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link
4-4, my heart can't take this
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link
FH error from Delpo, 2 serves for the 2nd Djoko
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
2 SPs Djoko :-(
yup, I was right
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link
he had what 7 BPs in that epic game? god fuck this.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 September 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link
He "only" had 3 BPs in that game (8 deuces). 95min, 99pts, what an insane set of tennis. Oh well, it's bed for me. Hope I wake up to an extraordinary story.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 9 September 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link
alas. Not sure why Del Potro played in a Brazil shirt anyway.
― Ludo, Monday, 10 September 2018 06:38 (five years ago) link