the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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Ann Gloag into the pit as well, obvs.

suzy, Thursday, 20 September 2018 12:50 (six years ago) link

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nashwan, Thursday, 20 September 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link

the gloag archipelago, come on ppl

mark s, Thursday, 20 September 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

I took the quiz and apparently I am Spain. Result!

nashwan, Thursday, 20 September 2018 13:49 (six years ago) link

John Redwood looking distinctly uneasy and getting very shouty when a haulier takes him to task on customs checks post Brexit. https://t.co/LyxwUSd1tv

— Otto English (@Otto_English) September 20, 2018

canary christ (stevie), Thursday, 20 September 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link

From the Guardian live blog:

Q: You said it was your deal or a no deal. The EU is saying your plan is unacceptable. Isn’t it all falling apart?

May says she always said this would be tough.

She wants to have a Brexit that avoids a hard border in Ireland.

If there are concerns from the EU, β€œlet’s hear what those concerns are,” she says.

(That is an odd thing to say. The EU has been spelling out its concerns all summer.)

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 20 September 2018 14:16 (six years ago) link

christ how is she still so fucking bad at this

Oof. She's being butchered left and right.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 September 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link

lol, all the papers are running with Tusk calling Chequers β€˜dead’ and Macron saying it won’t work, apart from The Times - which leads with one leader saying there is greater momentum for a fair compromise.

Viktor Orban.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 20 September 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link

Brutal.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 September 2018 15:06 (six years ago) link

Peston, Newton Dunn, etc calling it β€˜an almost unprecedented humiliation’.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 20 September 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link

it sounds like she was genuinely shocked at Chequers getting pumped even though it was practically 1/1000 that it would be!

calzino, Thursday, 20 September 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link

lots of Tories blaming Olly Robbins on twitter!

calzino, Thursday, 20 September 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link

β€˜an almost unprecedented humiliation’.

that's really saying something considering may's unbroken string of faceplants, each worse than the last, since the referendum

omg

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 20 September 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link

whatever his yearly salary is, it isn't enough

imago, Thursday, 20 September 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link

i want that to be in textbooks

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 20 September 2018 17:22 (six years ago) link

A David Low for our time

imago, Thursday, 20 September 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

May says Chequers is the only option which maintains an open border in Ireland. Not true: there is Barnier's long-preferred single market + customs union model (also backed by the Irish). Many in Brussels are absolutely sure the UK will blink in this game of chicken

— Tom McTague (@TomMcTague) September 20, 2018

Feel like it might be time for a 'how does Brexit end?' poll.

Matt DC, Thursday, 20 September 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

May's house of cards will fall like a row of dominoes... checkmate

Neil S, Thursday, 20 September 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link

Those seem like unusually dark trousers in Matt's otherwise homogenitalous physiognomic greytopia.

nashwan, Thursday, 20 September 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link

rolling UK politics sept 2018: matt sticks the boot in

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 20 September 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link

Thought you meant DC for a minute there :-O

Zach Same (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 September 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link

Nailed it again

All right! A new season! (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 20 September 2018 20:32 (six years ago) link

really enjoying the BBC’s the mighty redcar which feels like a necessary corrective to things like john harris’ brexit series in the guardian

||||||||, Friday, 21 September 2018 06:59 (six years ago) link

Really brutal set of front pages today for the PM. With the Mail apparently defanged there's only the Sun there to cry ambush and betrayal.

Matt DC, Friday, 21 September 2018 07:09 (six years ago) link

whatever his yearly salary is, it isn't enough

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lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 21 September 2018 07:13 (six years ago) link

Was she cross yesterday? She was steaming. Literally. The head wobbled with fury. Her eyes darted and bulged and practically boiled in their own juices. The old banger's temperature gauge was needling deep into the danger zone.

Oops. Did I just call our Prime Minster an old banger? It was meant in the metaphorical sense. Let's just say that in Star Trek at this point, Scottie would have been shaking his head and saying he couldna hold her much longer, Cap'n.

They had apportioned a tiny room near Mozart University for the May press conference. It was a veritable sweat box. The Salzburg smoker. As hot and nasty as a prop forward's jockstrap.

Quentin Letts' salary is definitely too high. I remember him doing *this type of thing* on her famous conference speech, he really shouldn't be encouraged!

calzino, Friday, 21 September 2018 08:38 (six years ago) link

Good that the Guardian is continuing to pay attention to this sort of thing.

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/21/children-as-young-as-10-denied-uk-citizenship-for-failing-good-character-test?__twitter_impression=true

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 21 September 2018 10:01 (six years ago) link

I thought you meant it in a sarcastic sense before I clicked, it is good - because no other paper seems interested rn.

calzino, Friday, 21 September 2018 10:08 (six years ago) link

I’m at Ukip conference, where of course you can buy Nigel Farage condoms.

β€œFor when you have a hard Brexit”

Β£1 each or 4 for Β£2 from the Young Independence stall. pic.twitter.com/MRnsGjt41d

— Mikey Smith (@mikeysmith) September 21, 2018

UKIP unveil their new zero-child policy.

calzino, Friday, 21 September 2018 12:01 (six years ago) link

CONFIRMED: BBC have been summoned to Downing Street. PM will give a statement on government Brexit policy. No other journos invited. On telly at 1345.

I think she's going to break in to a Bob Marley medley: don't worry about a thing..

calzino, Friday, 21 September 2018 12:24 (six years ago) link

Or 'Tell Laura I Love Her'

Ward Fowler, Friday, 21 September 2018 12:27 (six years ago) link

So we're heading for no deal eh.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 21 September 2018 12:51 (six years ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45603192

stop the pressezzzzz

canary christ (stevie), Friday, 21 September 2018 12:53 (six years ago) link

The statement has been delayed as the room they’d booked for it doesn’t have any electricity. Sounds like they might as well not bother.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 21 September 2018 12:56 (six years ago) link

Metaphor alert: there’s currently no power in the room at No 10 where the PM is going to make her speech. Might delay things a bit.

— Tom Larkin (@TomLarkinSky) September 21, 2018

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 September 2018 13:01 (six years ago) link

Bah xp

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 September 2018 13:01 (six years ago) link

nothing new except possible softening on EU citizens' rights in the UK? bah fuck these people

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:14 (six years ago) link

She's demanding respect from the EU.

These are the most pathetic choads in all Christendom.

canary christ (stevie), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link

God help me, I actually watched this and she said nothing new whatsoever, what was the point of doing that?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link

"At this late stage in the negotiations, it is not acceptable to simply reject the other side's proposals without a detailed explanation and counter proposals. So we now need to hear from the EU what the real issues are and what their alternative is so we can discuss them. Until we do, we cannot make progress."

FFS is it neck or just naivety?

nashwan, Friday, 21 September 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link

It's Trump's so-called 'art' of the deal, without the browbeating leverage.

pomenitul, Friday, 21 September 2018 14:06 (six years ago) link

100% it's neck, just sheer fucking white-knuckle 'WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING TO LOOK LIKE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING' panic

actually i've changed my mind, brexit is good not bad now

Theresa May's warning to the EU: "We. Stand. Ready."

Me: "YAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS." πŸ™Œ pic.twitter.com/SFwLtbFXPr

— Darren Grimes (@darrengrimes_) September 21, 2018

Between this and Elon Musk it's been tough times for the whole Grimes family.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 21 September 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link

https://i.postimg.cc/G3qbQWSz/asjd.png

Twenty-five years of plotting this exact moment and this is the best analogy he can come up with.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 21 September 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link


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