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where you say SHRILL LAUGH I only hear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DescenteInfinie.ogg

El Tomboto, Monday, 24 September 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link

it's almost as if there's an epidemic of men in positions of privilege and power who are actively working against women's interests and who by the way have no idea how to do their jobs in the first place


YA THINK??????

maura, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 01:10 (five years ago) link

:)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 09:10 (five years ago) link

:(

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 09:10 (five years ago) link

.

Mark G, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 09:13 (five years ago) link

;_;

how to make it through this week?!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link

he needs to be investigated and likely step down. this is far worse than Franken's alleged infractions.

― akm, Monday, September 24, 2018 5:49 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw: he is being investigated by the DNC and the local party right now

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

this kavanaugh stuff is really messing with my head

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link

bill cosby has been sentenced to 3-10 years in prison

mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

Wow

faculty w1fe (silby), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

His crimes were many and each one was quite serious.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link

This was only one crime. Would that he could be serving more sentences.

Betting Eighty Hams (sic), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link

Due to the statute of limitations, he couldn't be tried for his other crimes, but I am sure the large number of accusations against him were on the mind of the judge.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

this kavanaugh stuff is really messing with my head

― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, September 25, 2018 12:53 PM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark

feel u
the intersection of anita hill/early 90s memories, ^^^ this and regular 2018 life has been extremely difficult for me as well

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link

this has been rolling around in my head over and over and over

Most men have no idea how truly traumatic sexual assault is. The science on the subject is pretty clear: according to the New England Journal of Medicine, rape is about four times more likely to result in diagnosable PTSD than combat.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/21/brett-kavanaugh-blame-women-anita-hill-cosby-weinstein?CMP=share_btn_fb

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

the high school/college aspect has dislodged a lot of long buried stuff, finding it very hard to not stay home from work & just cower in the fetal position

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link

If proceedings go forward on Thursday, I'd count on it being very, very enraging.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link

a certain amount of rage might be helpful, but there's going to trigger fear and grief, too

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link

there’s no way I’m watching it

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

i am coping by distracting to the point of going out of my way to avoid further triggers beyond knowing the bare minimum of what is going on
not reading commentary, not listening to analysis on the radio, anything to avoid the further intrusion of intrusive thoughts about sexual assault
VG you are not alone in feeling this way, take care of yourself <3

this is a truly brutal read (CW: graphic SA, including details from Steubenville) but I think everyone should read it if they don't understand how cruel and harmful it is to deny the experience of rape victims
https://longreads.com/2018/09/24/speak-truth-to-power/

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

thanks for posting that LL - what an incredible piece (brutal yes, but inspiring too)

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link

yes, it ends on an upswing. i felt she was very conscious of her reader throughout. it's one of the things i liked about the way this particular piece was put together. glad it was useful <3

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

Hi Stephen Elliot, it's me, Lyz. Remember when I was an upaid editor at your magazine and we met at AWP where you invited me up to your room to watch a movie and I declined? But you didn't take no for an answer. You hounded me. I hid under a table. https://t.co/a66u4JmHXW

— lyz lenz (@lyzl) September 25, 2018

mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

what is it with these creeps & their long tedious martyrdoms about being “falsely accused” . it’s like they all learn that style somewhere. and the straw polling of everyone they’ve ever dated “did i rape you? no? ok good”

just stop.

oh and fuck off

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link

“did i rape you? no? ok good”

if you have to even ask this question the answer is most likely "yes" in more than instance

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link

exactly

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

this last tweet from Lenz is great

Every woman you harassed is flourishing and publishing at better outlets than some Nazi smoke screen bullshit site. You played yourself.

— lyz lenz (@lyzl) September 25, 2018

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

Yeah, there is something about the style. And it's almost like they're in some twisted competition. 'No, I'm going to be the one to write the definitive "Great man brought low by #metoo" piece'

Number None, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

oh and that line about “there’s no support group for the accused”

can you give me one (1) small break

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link

stephen elliott was always a creep and i felt incredibly uncomfortable running into him at literary gatherings, but i worried that it was my own prudishness making me feel that way. going out of your way to make “KINKYYYYYY” your personal brand is a hell of a deflector

maura, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

Harry Shearer: also dipshit

this is probably not news though

If you're designated a "sexually violent predator", does that mean you can't hang around kids and feed them Jell-O any more? #AskingForAFriend

— Harry Shearer (@theharryshearer) September 25, 2018

(thread)

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

that's just a (not ver good) joke; don't see the real problem there.

akm, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

i hate-read the stephen elliot piece and oh my god i can't believe he was disinvited from a literary panel, that must've been so hard for him

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

there are SO many horror stories about elliot and pretty much all of them echo each other, he's a major piece of shit

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

Becoming increasingly convinced that beyond the cramped/unworkable sentiments of 'why can't this older generation just die off' (which was always lame and reductive) instead I get a real sense of people absolutely unused to accepting or even imagining a world where things could be different. I don't mean in the way that predators will always find an out or an option, but so many around them or around situations or who 'heard stories' and shrugged, or who react to everything talked about with actual confusion. Reminds me, obliquely (I didn't experience this directly but I was around for a couple of examples of this) of when grad/med students have over the last couple of decades essentially protested living/work conditions and older professors or instructors took attitudes of "well I got through it, why can't you?" and/or "but that's the way the world is." Which...isn't helpful. Apply it to a lot of the reaction going on for the past calendar year -- Shearer's lame crack being just another example of it -- and it matches pretty clearly.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

this is a good piece related to Kavanaugh but also more largely it fits into this thread as well.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-allegations-yearbook-male-bonding.html

omar little, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

“no president has ever consulted more widely or talked with more people from more backgrounds to seek input about a Supreme Court nomination.”

really, he should be disqualified just for saying that

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link

that's just a (not ver good) joke; don't see the real problem there.

the thread beneath the first tweet

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link

2 different men volunteering to the Judiciary Committee they think they, not Kavanaugh, were the ones who assaulted Ford. Really. https://t.co/iUIUV0ivV4

— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) September 27, 2018

I... don't even know where to start with this. what the actual fuck

Roz, Thursday, 27 September 2018 03:40 (five years ago) link

like yeah, not one but TWO men would actually come forward to confess to a crime from 1982. that's TOTALLY how bad guys are caught!

Roz, Thursday, 27 September 2018 03:43 (five years ago) link

one thing i really get the sense of over the past couple years is the idea of reinventing the concepts of "justice" from scratch. particularly in this response of "everybody does bad things", which is just flabbergasting misdirection. yes, pretty much all straight men have at some point behaved in a sexually inappropriate manner towards a woman or multiple women, but somehow people, particularly straight men, have such profound difficulty getting the fairly simple concept that instances of wrongdoing can differ in severity. and that's not even getting into the brain-melting concept of forcing a collective notion of "forgiveness" which systemically excludes the victims of assult and abuse. gah. i understand not getting this shit because for most of my life i didn't fucking get it either, but good god how much more obvious does it have to become until enough people accept these basic facts that we can start, you know, addressing them?

dub pilates (rushomancy), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link

pretty much all straight men have at some point behaved in a sexually inappropriate manner towards a woman or multiple women

I hate this kind of argument - it cant be proven (everyone will have different anecdotal experience), and it’s implication is that male heterosexuality is inherently mysogynistic

Οὖτις, Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

yeah its shit tbf rly

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

I hate this kind of argument - it cant be proven (everyone will have different anecdotal experience), and it’s implication is that male heterosexuality is inherently mysogynistic

― Οὖτις

well my implication was rather that we live in a society built on male supremacy, not about the alleged inherent nature of male heterosexuality. emphasizing individual experience over the systemic social and cultural factors that drive real-world behavior is what drives exceptionalist bullshit like #notallmen. i consider denial of maleness and of male privilege to be similarly toxic as the denial of whiteness and of white privilege.

dub pilates (rushomancy), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

the medal ceremony has been postponed indefinitely fyi

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link

that's ok, i don't get any anyhow, i'm a wookiee

dub pilates (rushomancy), Saturday, 29 September 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

there's an array of threads on maleness for this tangent

this story about cristiano ronaldo could be huge

http://www.spiegel.de/international/cristiano-ronaldo-kathryn-mayorga-the-woman-who-accuses-ronaldo-of-rape-a-1230634.html

ogmor, Sunday, 30 September 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link

ugh that Ronaldo story. I knew my irrational hatred of this guy was justified.

Roz, Sunday, 30 September 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link


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