ILE Weight Watchaz

it is past oct 1 and as promised i returned to average. i'm going to eat pumpkin pie today.

Restaurant dishes 'contain more calories than fast-food meals' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46540132

Down 26 -27 lb now btw. I think I’ve reached the target weight I want to maintain.

yea I remember going to Cheesecake Factory once and being astounded how many calories were in some of those dishes. it seem physically possible.

I mean, doesn't *

I've put on like 9lbs in a week and a half what the hell? Winter is definitely coming

congrats LS

Oh hello again, my many-chinned brethren and sistren.

So... in terms of work and family, I had a very stressful autumn. I decided that I wouldn't attend too closely to dieting while I was dealing with other things. Consequently, I buried the scale under the bed and resolved not to look at it until January 1st. An hour ago, I stepped on it for the first time since August. And guess what? I've gained 21.2 lbs. I'm aghast/depressed/frustrated. I signed up for a sixth month Dietbet, which has me losing somewhere on the order of 19 lbs. Even if I'm successful, I'll still be heaver than I was a year prior. I should console myself with cheese.

What are your dieting rules this year? I've determined to be free of added sugars (like usual), processed starches, alcohol, and to cook from scratch more than half of what I consume.

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its literally the worst day in the year to weigh yourself

obv not 21lbs worth but be fair to yourself too!

ive not been in weigh-myself/watch-myself mode all december and ive put probably 5/6 lbs back on. back to focus mode tomorrow

vague rules, really obvious:

nothing between mealtimes- huge struggle for me, behaviourally

prep for working week:
decent cereal breakfast
elevenses of fruit/grain/yoghurt
lunch sandwich

coffee and tea whenever i want, have dropped sugar from each

we p much always cook dinner from scratch, ive not changed much here except maybe keeping an eye on portions.

no eating after 8pm, which im now well used to

i said it was all really obvious stuff tbf

now that im back in focus mode, ill weigh myself before breakfast every morning. ive an excel tracker because im nerdy that way, it gives me weekly/monthly trends/milestones that keep me motivated for those shitty days when the number went up despite yr best efforts, ie if im up this week i can still have lost weight on a monthly avg, etc etc

graphs and tables the lot by god

I'm in the habit of weighing once weekly, but thinking about getting a daily scale / tracker. Do you find it's helpful?

for me, yep, i need lots of reinforcement because i slip without thinking in my habits

ywmv

Lost another 10 since my last update. So far the score is 270-ish in March of 2017 down to 227 yesterday.

― how's life, Monday, September 17, 2018 2:17 PM (seven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fucked this up good and proper. Total cliche of making "rare exceptions" during the holidays and having it snowball and gained about 20 of that back. Pretty disappointed in myself, because not only was my weight/size better during the six or seven months that I was keeping things up, but I felt so much better too. Started cutting out sugar again yesterday.

same! im still down a decent bit on what i started but christmas and long tail of winter killed me eating wise.

start again tomorrow

Been doing the 4:3 fasting diet consistently since June last year, and not monitoring what I eat on a non-fast day, which is bad.

On a fast day I eat 600kcals of 'something'. I'm fortunate in that I don't wake up hungry and just wait until 6pm and guzzle my allowance then I'm done for the day.

However, I've still managed to lose about 28.5 kilos so far, it's sometimes slow going (I'm in my 40s and don't exercise much right now although I've been out on my bike more and more) but it is moving in the right direction, personally I find weighing myself every week or every few days to be a huge mistake especially wrt my will and wellbeing your body can yo-yo a lot during the course of a few days, so I try to do it once every few weeks instead and just take cues from the size of my chops in the mirror's reflection, and the way clothes are getting looser and my belt size etc:

I've lost 29 lbs since the beginning of the year. Started using the Noom app. I'm basically living off 1400 calories a day and then hit the gym daily so I can drink wine at night. There are no restrictions on my diet, so it feels easy. If I can loose another 11 pounds, I'll be "happy".

Jesus that is the least sustainable sounding diet I’ve ever heard.

no restrictions eh

power to ya but look

Ha. Exactly the amount of support I expect from this board.

It's about portion control. No rules like no sugar, carbs, gluten, whatever. Going on four months and I'm fine.

yeah, i used myfitnesspal ( I haven't heard of noom) a couple of years ago and it does really work. It just gets hard after awhile to log everything in because you think you can do it in your head and you really can't. I do remember eating a lot of low cal ice cream during that time though as my end of day splurge.

xp. the wine is included in your daily 1400?

It's probably not good though that i often mulled that a bottle of wine could just be 1/2 my calories for the day.

ha xp

nope - just food. I exercise for about 45 minutes a day to account for the extra wine calories and it's seems to work. ha xp

It’s not bot being supportive but statistically 90% percent of people put back on most weight lost within 5 years and the more restrictive a diet the more danger there is of doing so. 1400 is not enough calories for an adult especially if you’re exercising a lot!

gl to you darin and i wish id yr discipline rly

thanks to you both!

yeah, I'll have to be careful about reintroducing calories gradually so my metabolism doesn't fuck up. For me personally, cutting out entire food groups for me is impossible. I'd rather die than stop eating bread.

same but also everything else i like to eat

That’s all I meant - the chance of eating that restrictively and therefore maintaining weight loss in the long run is really unlikely and the yo-yo ing can permanently fuck up your metabolism. I didn’t mean to be rude earlier I’ve just been thinking/reading about this stuff a lot lately and worry about things that sound so extreme. I hear you on the bread though - that would be a far less delicious life.

Yeah, there's a lot of crappy diets out there. What I like about the Noom app is that it really helps you apply mindfulness towards your eating habits. It's my choice to push myself w/the 1400 calorie thing, which I know is extreme. If I can gradually increase to 2000 calories a day and keep eating mindfully, I think it can be a permanent change.

I've never really needed to lose weight for health-related reasons, but this year I decided to attempt Lent for the first time in my life, Eastern Orthodox style (well, the Romanian way; I have no idea whether it's the same in other Christian Orthodox parts of the world). I wouldn't call myself religious per se, so I'm primarily doing it for cultural reasons and because it reminds me that living without meat, fish, eggs, cheese, milk, sweets and alcohol isn't madness. Besides, you're allowed a bit of wine on weekends and vegan desserts aren't frowned upon. The overall aim is to cut back on surfeit, which I think is a useful annual lesson. As it stands, I'll probably do it again next year, although I do very much look forward to gorging myself on lamb, eggs and cabbage rolls this Sunday (in Romania we use the Julian calendar for Easter and the Gregorian one for Christmas – go figure…). More to the point (of this thread), I've lost something like 6kg since the 11th of March, so it's quite effective. I'm especially glad to be rid of my sugar addiction.

1400 doesn't seem that crazy. Especially if you are already somewhat small anyway, that is pretty much the standard of what you need to lose an incremental amount every week. Plus you can actually eat a lot of food on 1400 calories.

Erica, you're right. I seem to be slipping. My relationship w food is much healthier than it was in my 20s but it's still a struggle.

Is the Noom app free?

No, it's something like $100 for 4 months, but you can try it free for 14 days to see what you think.

I was at this kind of thing years ago on paper, with the help of a nutritional information database on the web, just following some basic math I read that body weight in pounds...

x8-10: lose
11-13: maintain
14-16: gain

Add on the calories lost from exercise.

I dunno where I got this stuff.. does it ring a bell with anyone?

Anyways I found it useful for a little loss at the time and i remember still roughly how many calories are in basic foods. Keeps me from ever cutting out entire food groups and all that

I’ll just leave this here
https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/everything-you-know-about-obesity-is-wrong/

As a life long fatty I disagree with nearly every word of that BS.

Thank you Justine.

I think that the article is mixed: it’s good at highlighting appalling and endemic fat-shaming, but it doesn’t do much at all to say what the ‘new paradigm’ or approach should be.

And at a personal level, it risks triggering a kind of complete giving up of control or unleashing a self- destructiveness that underpins my eating habits, if I’m not vigilant and positive.

44lbs down since last August btw.

Yeah, I remember when that article was circulating and otm that it has good points but it's just too sprawling. It would've been better served to have really delved into one issue, like doctor's harmful biases, without that overarching "if you are fat or obese american at any point in your life, that is your body for the rest of your life."

omg I really should take the time to proofread before posting.

A couple of years ago my weight had started creeping up and I heard 'fast five' mentioned so gave that a go. It worked fairly dramatically well within a few weeks so I've more of less kept it up since.

I don't think I'd want to do full fasting days but this is very easy for me most days. Basically first meal some time between midday and 2pm, then no more calories past five or so hours after that. No other restrictions, although my diet is also strictly plant based.

Honestly have plenty of energy in the mornings (OK, espresso helps), and if you don't eat late you don't tend to wake up hungry. Just make sure you have a good dinner.

I say "you", this is not a recommendation at all, but it does work for me and the theory makes sense.

I wasn't seriously overweight but did have a couple of extra inches around the waist. Now my weight seems to have stabilised in a really good way. So yeah, not a recommendation exactly but if that sounds like a fit then I say give it a try. I doubt it's even potentially risky in any way as you're still eating.

without that overarching "if you are fat or obese american at any point in your life, that is your body for the rest of your life."

yeah I've read that all over the place and it was seriously discouraging when I was trying to lose weight - along with the language of "I've kept it off for 3 years!", implying that obesity is just your natural state. maybe I'm one of the lucky ones.

Kinda pissed off at the people in this thread and the girls only thread who are criticizing my attempt to better myself. Being fat isn't healthy - for your body or your mind. Being fat for me has come at the expense of injuries incurred while exerising, depression over the ugly ugly clothes I've had to wear as a fat person (there are no fashionable stores for "plus size" dudes - anything you can buy in casual male xl will make you look like a retired cop at church), bad skin from sugar intake, elevated ldl cholesterol.

I'm not trying to crash diet. I'm trying to make a serious lifestyle change. And it worked until I made a mistake. Sugar is a totally addictive substance for me. It is impossible for me to eat sweets without going back again and again and again. The first time I ate sugar since quitting, I felt like I had a goddamn hangover later. But that didn't stop me from going back two weeks later. And then going back a week later. And then going back 3 days later. And then suddenly I was two-fisting ice cream every night and eating cookies for lunch and had gained back a bunch of the weight I lost.

I quit smoking too. And quitting smoking took me years of trying and failing. I've been clean from cigarettes for 15 years now. But if you looked at how many dozens of times I failed at quitting smoking, you might say that only a depressingly small fraction of anyone who quits smoking succeeds and why even bother.

I've never shamed anyone else for being fat, but being fat is a shame for me. It is a shitty, unpleasant way to exist and I'm going to do everything I can to live a healthier life.

i dont think anyone in either thread has any issues with yr attempts or diarying itt man.

certainly i found it helpful last year when making progress and yr revive came at a timely moment for me

id like to be happy with my weight, everyone is entitled to that without a drive-by comment and id imagine our targets are well within the bounds of whats normal/healthy by any measure- even if not i cant imagine nu nu ilx would or could take issue with anyones efforts to make themselves the person they want to be- coming from whatever direction.

xp to peace, man –

Mad props to you for taking care of your bodily and mental health. It's best to drown out the noise, some of which is cultural in nature. The kind of pushback you're experiencing is generally less prevalent beyond the anglosphere, as the US, UK, Canada, Australia and NZ (but not Ireland) were all in the OECD's top 10 worst offenders for obesity rates in 2016. And on that note, good luck!

its true we do consider ourselves a separate state to NZ ;)

Nobody criticized you jfc. Trying to live a healthier lifestyle is wonderful but dieting is probably one of the main reasons behind your binging on sugar. The restrict/binge cycle is really really hard to break. I say this a a former anorexic and someone who has suffered from disordered eating (including binge eating) for decades - dieting the way that we know it is not healthy and sets people up to fail. Have you heard of intuitive eating? I highly recommend looking into it. Intuitive Eating: A Revolutionary Program that Works by Evelyn Tribole and Elyse Resch is wonderful as is Just Eat it by Laura Thomas.

some ppl need to learn how/get permission to relax their relationship with food in order to eat healthily, others need more structure to help them feel in control, this isn't hard

I'm supping a bulmers in a pizza restaurant today with a plate of chicken wings for starters. Safe to say the diet is well and truly fucked. But it does feel good.