Leno Replaces Conan on Tonight Show...

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I haven't picked up on any nervousness at all. To me, it seems like he picked up right where he left off in NYC with a different name a nicer studio. His monologue and interview style is exactly the same as it has been for the last 10 years.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 04:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, I was paying really close attention to his mannerisms and I noticed, in his monologue, a few high-pitched nervous laughs and a few awkward pauses here and there. Also, the audience rapport wasn't nearly as interactive and relaxed. He's still the man, he just isn't in full control yet. It'll take a few weeks for him to adjust.

Cunga, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 04:47 (fifteen years ago) link

He did well enough tonight. I like Letterman and all but this is the first time I actually looked forward to 11:30 pm tv in a long long time.

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 04:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I imagine Craig Ferguson is pretty happy too, now that his competition is Jimmy Fallon.

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 04:52 (fifteen years ago) link

it quickly becomes the tool of the narcissist who sometimes hates himself but still feels superior to everybody else and wants to keep himself the center of conversation(e.g. Woody Allen)

good post

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 05:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I noticed Conan seemed to be moving his lips a lot like his mouth was dry.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 05:05 (fifteen years ago) link

His eyes were red.

Definitely baked.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 05:07 (fifteen years ago) link

it's def the apex of the entertainment world, interviewing Will fuckin' Ferrell, the unfunniest man on earth

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:22 (fifteen years ago) link

pretty much. he beat every show in prime time on Monday.

Reggiano Jackson (gabbneb), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

btw, this:

http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2009/06/new-golden-age.html

is retarded and useless.

hugging used to mean something (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

no it's a funny post from a professional joke writer

let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

he's right about fallon at least

let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I noticed Conan seemed to be moving his lips a lot like his mouth was dry.

He does this because he is a lizard. Look at how his eyes dart.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

it's def the apex of the entertainment world

He's the biggest comedy star of this era, for better or worse.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

that's probably true but what generation has he really impacted? people in their 30s? for anyone like... 25 (maybe, say, 28) and younger i think the defining comedy force of the generation is chappelle. and for people that are in their 40s and up it's letterman or someone else? im kind of blindly hypothesizing here

let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

hopefully history will be like jordan and just completely forget dane cook existed

is it ok to oscarbait 'million dollar baby'? (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah true

let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

that's probably true but what generation has he really impacted?

I think it says a lot that the first two musical acts on the show are Pearl Jam and Green Day. The show is definitely aiming for the 25-40 audience, people who grew up with grunge and SNL/The Simpsons (for whom Conan wrote), and the most coveted demographic, the demo most likely to actually stay up past the 11pm news. Especially since all the boomers will be going to bed after Bleno's over.

And then if you're still awake, the 15-25s can watch Jimmy Fallon talk about Twitter, and if they're still awake after that, the stoners can watch Carson Daly and contemplate suicide.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't even dislike CO'B that much, I just seldom watch him cuz the stuff Carson and Letterman used to do in dribs and drabs -- shticking about how underwhelming the show was on a given night-- seems to be the BASIS of Conan's persona!

The guy is mostly an interviewer, not a comedian. That's his job. And I don't want to waste any more of my life watching talk shows.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link

dude nobody watches jimmy fallon

let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

And I don't want to waste any more of my life watching talk shows.

DVR has made talk shows so much more palatable for me.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link

dude nobody watches jimmy fallon

We'll see! I'm not a fan, but I also think the worst of the American public.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

conan does need to ease up on the self-depreciation tip tho - it's funny as asides but that I DRIVE AN OLD CAR sketch was like ooookkay dude - also it's hard to pull it off when nbc took jay leno out with the trash on your account

let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

except they didnt dude they fucked him and kept leno on at 10p

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link

but still

let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the NYTimes piece on Conan proved to me that he overthinks things too much, and some of the bits (like the car thing) seemed like concessions to a segment of the audience that will never warm to him, no matter how much he condescends to them.

When he was on the tram, screaming "NOOOOOOO", the glazed-over, hateful looks of some of the passengers reminded me of Tom Green.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

The tram circle was fucking killing me.

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

it probably would've been a bit annoying to experience irl but i thought it was pretty funny

let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

basically, one cannot root for the Leno 10pm show to fail, cuz then he jumps to another net at 11:35 and prospers there.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

leno should just do a 30 min headlines show every night, it would be >> whatever he's really gonna do

let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I kind of want a Bitch beltbuckle, but that's neither here nor there.

I know Fallon's ratings started off stronger than Conan's had been in a long time, but I don't know whether or not that's still the case. His show has gotten marginally better, and he's settled down a lot.

Conan has a comedic bag of tricks for sure, self-deprecation being chief among them. It's either something you grow to like or you never do. I just appreciate that he has no shame when committing to a bit, because Leno would've never gone shopping in the hood (and neither would Letterman).

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

The guy is mostly an interviewer, not a comedian.

wrong

That's his job.

to some extent, but it's gonna work a little differently now

Reggiano Jackson (gabbneb), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i didn't think conan's monologue stuff last night was very funny, but he's got plenty of time to loosen up. his funniest stuff is what happens between the actual jokes, anyway. the "trying on clothes" bit was pretty good, dude ended up looking like a cross between axl rose and mystery.

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

basically, one cannot root for the Leno 10pm show to fail, cuz then he jumps to another net at 11:35 and prospers there.

I agree! And anyway, there hasn't been a show on at 10pm on a network that I've enjoyed in quite some time, so for all I care he can prosper there as long as he wants.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

i was hoping it would come back to him wearing the bitch buckle with his suit.

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

me too!! i liked when he picked a fan off that pile of junk and carried it around.

hugging used to mean something (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

fallon's show is still a disaster imo - his monologues or horrible for someone who did weekend update for a few years, his pre interview bits are almost uniformly not funny (or at least not commandingly funny) and his interviews are good sometimes cuz they get him good guests, but he's just disastrous at interviewing - the steve martin interview last night was crazy uncomfortable

let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i was hoping it would come back to him wearing the bitch buckle with his suit.

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:23 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

this!!!

also conan's monologue was weirdly bad last night - like a winehouse joke and a kirsty ally joke - i guess hollywood needs a new famous drunk crackhead and a new fat person

let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

monologues are horrible*

let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Every time I accidentally catch a bit of Fallon's show it seems like ?uestlove thinks he's fucking annoying too.

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

plz let me know when comedy segments equal 51% or more of The Tonight Show, k thx bye

(I assume it could happen when the ads reach 25 mins per hour, so maybe a year from now)

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

plz let me know when comedy segments equal 51% or more of The Tonight Show, k thx bye

6/1/09

Reggiano Jackson (gabbneb), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Every time I accidentally catch a bit of Fallon's show it seems like ?uestlove thinks he's fucking annoying too.

hahahaha YES

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

perhaps that was bcz it was the debut and hence unrepresentative, gabbfuckface?

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

How much of NBC's keystone late-night franchise is "comedy segments" is independent of whether Conan is a comedian, Morbius. This is basic stuff here. Dude wrote some of the funniest things ever to appear on both "The Simpsons" and SNL. Good enough for me.

Chubby Checker Psycho (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

perhaps that was bcz it was the debut and hence unrepresentative, gabbfuckface?

i dunno dude, but i watched it and you didn't, so, you know, stfu. no thanks, btw.

Reggiano Jackson (gabbneb), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

THAT WAS A DIFFERENT JOB

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

COMEDY WRITER IS NOT COMEDIAN, EITHER

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Letterman, Stewart, O'Brien, Colbert, Ferguson...all comedians first, interviewers second. If you want to see an interviewer only, then watch Charlie Rose or Tavis Smiley.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link


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