US Politics, November 2018: "There is no blame. There is no anything."

just coming here to post that

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/02/world/africa/nigeria-trump-rocks.html

But...there is no blame.

It's like people weren't even listening when our president absolved himself of responsibility for the impact of his provocative public statements. There is no anything, guys.

Israel has been shooting at rock throwers for a generation, this isn't new xp

it's like we're on the receiving end of karmic justice because we called Dubya stupid for 8 years.

― frogbs, Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:00 AM (eighteen minutes ago)

Dubya was very stupid. Trump just lowers the bar on any matter with which he associates.

You can win the Presidency, but you're still not a king
You can insult refugees but it don't mean a thing
You say Kim-Jong Un's a friend, but he ain't changed a whit
You can try to ban Muslims but we'll call you on your shit
Cause you want us
But we don't want you
You want everyone
And you want us
But we don't want you
And no one, no one, no one ever
Is to blame

I don't need the reminder, Mr. Mayor, but thanks. What's new is justifying atrocity by pointing to a recently uttered statement of the President of the United States.

That danger of the 'Trump-cover effect' can't be understated imo

*overstated

yes, his aesthetic of "i'm gonna lick my lips as i order crimes in front of cameras"

the subterfuge of normal heads of state, blown up

Trump will be a locus of anger for the rest of his life. His kids will spend their inheritances on security (as they and their families lose Secret Service protection in 2021). His name will continue to be taken off condo projects, and name licencing revenue has dried up. His grandchildren will find "Drumpf" a less embarrassing surname.

The worst thing that could happen to the Trump empire was winning the 2016 election. Some of them may even be forced to work for a living.

The question is, which one of them will murder him?

POTUS says he is putting up "massive cities of tents", "thousands of tents" - or camps with a concentration of illegal immigrants. The overall numbers he claims could be 10, 12 or 20 million people. "The size of Vermont" he says.

— Brian J. Karem (@BrianKarem) November 1, 2018

does he have any idea how numbers work? guess this explains his success in the casino industry

xp: Honestly, I'd be more concerned about outsiders who want to hurt Trump, personally. They know there's only one human he's ever come close to loving.

those poor trumps just can't catch a break

BREAKING: Federal judge denies @realDonaldTrump's attempt to stop discovery process in "Emoluments Clause" lawsuit by DC/MD A.G.'s. Will allow AGs to get documents showing foreign-government customers at Trump Hotel D.C.
Story coming soon...

— David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) November 2, 2018

the name david fahrenthold brings back memories of a foregone time when we thought that trump's financial impropriety might make a lick of difference in voters' minds

POTUS says he is putting up "massive cities of tents", "thousands of tents" - or camps with a concentration of illegal immigrants. The overall numbers he claims could be 10, 12 or 20 million people. "The size of Vermont" he says.

children of men, cool movie, cool life

the 20 million people who live in vermont are outraged

camps with a concentration of illegal immigrants camps with a concentration of illegal immigrants camps with a concentration of illegal immigrants camps with a concentration of illegal immigrants camps with a concentration of illegal immigrants camps with a concentration of illegal immigrants camps with a concentration of illegal immigrants camps with a concentration of illegal immigrants camps with a concentration of illegal immigrants camps with a concentration of illegal immigrants

the name david fahrenthold brings back memories of a foregone time when we thought that trump's financial impropriety might make a lick of difference in voters' minds

otm

It makes almost no difference now.

However, I find the prospect of future American History textbooks, which will treat Trump no better than Albert Fall (of Teapot Dome noteriety) or Robert Bork (of Watergate), pretty delicious. There are going to be a half-dozen movies about this era, as the political classes are more incensed about a Queens slumlord gaining the presidency than they were about some willfully ignorant Texan scion starting pointless wars.

i was wondering for just a sec how LBJ was a "scion" but nevermind

plus he was unwillfully aware

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/414551-cruz-suggests-orourke-campaign-money-is-funding-migrant-caravan?amp

slow clap for tracer, that’s been in my head since thread went up

LBJ was no angel, but his decisions were little different than those that might have occurred with any other 1960 or 1964 frontrunner. Every "serious" foreign policy thinker was all about containment, based on the "lesson" of 1938 Munich.

We saw a similar effect during the Obama presidency. I don't think Obama was personally inclined to spreading US vs. Islamist conflict to Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Syria, Mali, but it happened. Whether its McNamara and the hundreds of Vietnam think tank hawks in the 1960s, or the similar set of think tank hawks from Samantha Powers on down in the Obama presidency, presidents choose between the options they're given. Almost no presidents enter with enough knowledge of the foreign policy establishment to select advisors that buck the consensus.

GWB was worse than the norm, as he outsourced his vetting to Cheney and other neocons, so all of his intel served the preexisting neocon agenda of deposing Saddam Hussein. Sending Scuds to Isreal in 2001 doomed him. GWB was never briefed on conflicting evidence from the intelligence community, was never briefed on the internal divisions of Iraq, was never briefed on history. He was too willfully ignorant to seek knowledge from independent sources, and did as his advisors advised.

I don't think LBJ was willfully ignorant in the same sense. My sense of his presidency is that he felt betrayed by the limited intel he received from the start of his presidency, and somewhat trapped within existing policy and foreign policy norms. He never cared as much about Vietnam as he did about civil rights and Great Society programs.

It matters that the people we elect are intellectually curious. When some Queens slumlord claims that he knows everything, and that he and only he can solve the world, it should have been automatically disqualifying.

That last paragraph is A+.

Actual Gilead manual:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/washington-state-legislator-circulates-proposal-on-exterminating-liberals

Shea replied to Rowe and the Seattle Times in a Facebook video of his own, furiously claiming that he wasn’t angry over the incident while showing off his historical knowledge by claiming that the Mayflower compact was “a covenant with God to advance Christianity.”

“The counter-state is working overtime,” he said, adding that “there are two main counter-states in America: Marxists and Islamists.”

He went on to criticize a recent Rolling Stone profile of him as an example of a “Maoist insurgency model.”

“In fact, I’ve been wanting to do this video for a long time,” Shea said, repeating angrily that he wasn’t upset. “Yesterday, the Rolling Stone posted an 8,000 word article that was essentially a slander smear piece – a hit piece – against me.”

lmfao

the name paul krugman brings back memories of a foregone time when nobel laureat's op-eds didn't make any difference, either

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/01/opinion/republican-party-lies.html?

Judge Orders Georgia’s Brian Kemp To Give Thousands More People A Shot At Voting

A federal judge in Georgia on Friday ordered state Secretary of State Brian Kemp to establish additional procedures to guarantee that voters flagged by the state as potential noncitizens can vote in the 2018 election if they can prove their citizenship.

The decision from U.S. District Judge Eleanor Ross is a win for voting rights groups who are suing the state over its so-called “exact match” system for registering new voters. The ruling is expected to affect 3,141 people who registered but whose registrations were considered pending because the state couldn’t verify their citizenship. Overall, there are about 53,000 people whose voter registrations are pending because of a system that critics say is inaccurate and discriminatory.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/georgia-brian-kemp-voters_us_5bdc92cee4b09d43e31ecee7

lol Kemp's gonna do that... over the weekend?

but it's good news, I'll take it

Sure. He'll work a late night.

Shea replied to Rowe and the Seattle Times in a Facebook video of his own, furiously claiming that he wasn’t angry over the incident

and another thing: im not mad. please dont put in the newspaper that i got mad.

— wint (@dril) December 29, 2014

Anyone who suggests I'm not on an even fucking keel is going to get mashed.

The overall numbers he claims could be 10, 12 or 20 million people

That's a sequence of numbers alright.

they're comin' to America TODAY

Asked about new @ABC News/WaPo poll finding 49% believe he encourages politically motivated violence with the way he speaks, Pres. Trump tells @karentravers, "You're creating violence by your question...A lot of the reporters are creating violence by not writing the truth." pic.twitter.com/pm4YI4VTao

— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) November 2, 2018

another SC rebuke for Chump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/11/02/supreme-court-refuses-to-delay-case-alleging-an-improper-political-motive-in-decision-to-add-citizenship-question-to-census/?utm_term=.f4ecd1c95cee

I mean in a manner of speaking he’s right. If media had told the truth that he is a racist etc. from the start...

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/jacob-wohl-accused-of-fooling-desperate-woman-into-paying-him-for-sham-private-investigation/

tbf his solutions are indeed bespoke

man wtf w the SC today

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-refuses-to-block-kids-climate-lawsuit-against-us-government/2018/11/02/34bd7ee6-d7af-11e8-83a2-d1c3da28d6b6_story.html?utm_term=.d8337e8dfa86

I mean that lawsuit seems p crazy to me, maybe they're just expecting lower courts to rule against it

"the government should seek relief before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit." good luck

9th circuit is the most liberal circuit in the country...?

sorry I was being sarcastic. I was thinking the government isn't likely to win in the 9th

i am the 10,000th person to make a zodiac killer tweet edit

https://i.imgur.com/qty6qec.gif

lol