2020 Democratic presidential primary

I fear the Grimes brand may be irreversibly tainted.

I believed she had a shot a beating McConnell, widely hated by GOP voters and in Kentucky, but she couldn't do it. Don't know how she'd do on a national stage. She's no Beto.

Oh wait, I just clicked through...she's aiming for governor. I'd like to think any Dem with a pulse who's ever fired a rifle could beat Bevin, but who knows.

was that an elon musk joke

somebody get Alex Padilla to run imo

did i tell this thread about the incredible email i received from an angry harris supporter after i was quoted online expressing some skepticism about harris?

i remember that, but maybe on FB

no? but do tell

after this quote:

Many in the grassroots are cautious, as is BIG HOOS, a digital organizer for the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington, D.C. “I am instinctively skeptical of a former prosecutor. People who made a living putting Black and brown people in jail deserve scrutiny,” he says.

i got this email

MR Smith,

You are nothing but a little Digital Communications Strategist. You aren't qualified to shine the shoes of Kamala Harris. You will not silence her. You will NOT bully her. You will not dismiss her. You will not insult her. You will not make her go away. Be careful how you refer to her and how you speak about her. We black voters are sick and fucking tired of fake allies like you putting down black candidates because of purity bullshit. We are watching and taking names. We learned our lessons from BernieOrBust and 2016 especially. You people will NOT change the makeup of black voters.You will NOT bully us into changing for you. We WON'T. WE will properly be vetting Bernie Sanders this time unlike 2016 when white liberal media gave this sucker a pass. It will be painful for him and painful for YOU as well. You want to talk about black and brown people in prison and Bernie Sanders? We can go there... Bernie Sanders will be answering questions this time and you people won't have Hillary Clinton as scapegoat anymore when fellow black voters send his ass packing again IF he has the audacity to run again. You come for Harris, we come for YOU. We are VERY proud of Kamala Harris and we don't give a fuck she took money from Mnuchin. We are getting shot at, fuck Mnuchin's $. Your problem with Mnuchin is a white person's problem not ours. We are done with folks like you making the rules for us. Those days are over.

A female black voter

AnyoneButBernie2020

big hoos the digital organizer eyyy

"nothing but a little Digital Communications Strategist" is going on my tombstone

kinda agree w her tbh, although I wouldn't have um expressed it quite in those terms

also HOOS I hope u know I have a shit ton of respect for the work you do and yr general principles

a lot going on in that email

when the xanax runs out

Yeah I mean I don't even take issue with the substance of her political points about Bernie and I'm not one of those people that waves the Mnuchin thing like the bloody shirt, there sure is a lot going on in that email though

I do tend take exception to people talking about minority voters monolithically whether the speaker is among the group in question or not

BIG LITTLE digital communications strategist

yea lol @ all the capitalized WE's

ah, better

BIG YOUS aka nothing but the digital communications strategist

lmao

Dems start screen testing their potential losing ticket. https://t.co/PDKN5ImWIB

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) December 14, 2018

fp'd

that's nice

u still live in Canada, shame that

it's not all that bad

not all that good either

bit like a dennis perrin tweet

Would vote for them if i had to, obviously. I dont think its such a bad combo, in terms of electability.

Remember when biden was disqualified because he plagiarized a speech? Simpler times

I don't think Harris would accept the VP spot, California Senator is a better gig.

Otoh Biden is p fucking old...

get used to it now, fellow libs

Biden may run, Harris assuredly will. It's far less common for a nominee to pick an opponent as VP than it seems like it might be.

biden makes me so IA. 2020 is going to be a nightmare. new lows like 10,000 feet into the mariana trench (we're at 9,000 right now and have 27,000 until we hit bottom).

That seems like a losing ticket - mostly bc of Biden's age - but who knows

The nominee will probably be a sitting senator who will then select a senator or governor who did not run. It's not rocket science.

Unless it's Beto.

Asked if he’s a progressive, @BetoORourke says, ‘I don’t know.’ He’s not big on labels, he says pic.twitter.com/gDczpTZ2Bb

— David Siders (@davidsiders) December 14, 2018

He's Texan. He can't cop to being a progressive even if he is.

Policy wise, he's left of Obama but right of Ocasio-Cortez. That's progressive enough for a hell of a lot of Dem voters.

Politico runs a story about beto every fucking day

that picture is p funny tho

I don't really buy the "Texans can't identify as progressive" thing tbh, he knows he's playing on a national stage now. [citation needed] on his hidden progressive credentials

I buy it, because I live in Texas and just suffered through 6 months of "Liberal"/"Progressive" attack ads comparing us to something millimeters away from Hitler.

Actually, I tell a lie--it was 10 months.

known progressive hitler

People willfully misinterpret the "socialist" part of the National Socialists, not just in Texas. Pretty much in all 50 states.

I think you mean *Democratic* Socialists?

I don't buy it because a moderate Democrat isn't going to get any more votes in rural Texas than an open Leninist.

how much of the Texas vote is rural Texas?

(don't really know)