Democratic (Party) Direction

I mean their version of who she is is removed from reality.

fuck off

Everyone please join me in flagging that

nah

I’m a good person. He’s being rude without justification.

In the interests of compromise, I'll flag you and k3v.

I've flagged k3v so much it doesn't matter anymore, but yeah...

it doesn't matter whether he wins or not, doesn't, in fact, matter much who the democrats run in 2020 or whether or not they win

fwiw I powerfully disagree with this and feel like it really matters which of the two major parties wins both federally and at the state and municipal level, in a thousand small and not-so-small ways.

democrats and republicans do not exist in equal proportion and the latter are dying off.

I hear this a lot but the thing about young people is they turn into old people.

my advice is to ignore rushomancy's politics posts, nothing but doomsaying and ennui

this is only a problem if you think that old people are simply inherently reactionary/conservative, and that this observable correlation hasn't been the product of social and material conditions. (I would need to be convinced of the first hypothesis.) xp

false flag

this is only a problem if you think that old people are simply inherently reactionary/conservative, and that this observable correlation hasn't been the product of social and material conditions. (I would need to be convinced of the first hypothesis.) xp

this is only a problem if you think that old people are simply inherently reactionary/conservative?

Inherently? I don't know. It seems pretty structurally baked in that older people are going to keep having more money than younger people, and barring a really seismic realignment, it is going to keep being the case that the Republican party is the party more strongly aligned with the interests of more financially secure people, so ... yes, I feel pretty confident that the 18-25 year olds who vote strongly Democratic now are going to be more Republican (and more frequent) voters in the future than they are now.

good

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/418128-top-oversight-dem-i-wont-restore-subpoena-rights-to-republicans

Politico: “More than a dozen” prominent Democratic donors say they’ll never donate or fundraise for Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand because they’re upset with her for pushing Al Franken to resign when he faced groping allegations: https://t.co/j6GYiTcmFi

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 26, 2018

These fucking babies.

wow. did franken ghostwrite that? what a suck-up job.

This should be a giant point in favor of Gillibrand. With all the talk about corporate donations and how they distort politics, she is the one candidate who has done something that truly angered the donor class.

It doesn't make her my favorite candidate, but go Gillibrand in this battle.

this provides a great example of something a dude credibly accused of shitty behavior could actually do towards making amends. Franken releasing a statement calling off the dogs against Gillibrand would go a long way I think.

I mean I fully expect them to fall in line if she does end up getting the nod but it's still incredibly galling

who, dare I ask, *is* your favorite candidate Fred

wow we just really hate women here i guess

I wonder if he knows hadrian had a wall named after him but nothing else we remember, so he wants trumps wall to be his legacy

disclosure, I knew of Franken grabbing ass during photos because it was on a friend's fb feed years ago before metoo. Hopefully his year of looking inward will let him admit he fucked up.

if there's one thing comedians are traditionally great at it's sober self-reflection

louis_ck_comeback_trail.htm

Remarkable how the grumbling at Gillibrand continues even after Sen. Tina Smith won by a bigger margin (10.4 points) and more total votes than Franken ever did.https://t.co/wfZLJ3Ah4t

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) November 26, 2018

who, dare I ask, *is* your favorite candidate Fred

― resident hack (Simon H.), 26. november 2018 16:31 (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris, I think. Not that it matters.

Good piece

So what should progressives do in this moment? They should be doing what they have been doing already: pursuing an inside-outside strategy for exerting power within the Democratic caucus.

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/11/political-cross-currents-house

lmao No Labels and Third Way are feuding https://t.co/2V7p96UkrQ

— Italian Alex Pareene (@pareene) November 27, 2018

i don't think this is a joke i'm dying pic.twitter.com/nhz0TAStAQ

— Italian Alex Pareene (@pareene) November 27, 2018

we laugh now but this all ends with Joe Lieberman and an ice pick in Mexico City

— Italian Alex Pareene (@pareene) November 27, 2018

So more laughter then.

— Peter Huestis (@RealSparklePony) November 27, 2018

"The Republican Party wants to raise your taxes, America."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax-brady/top-us-house-tax-writer-floats-tax-bill-on-retirement-plans-irs-idUSKCN1NW07W

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz3L79mBKD0

Jeffries beats @RepBarbaraLee by 10 votes, 123-113, with Debbie Wasserman Schultz speaking on behalf of Jeffries https://t.co/K7pA1tOHw7

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) November 28, 2018

the old guard still going strong I see

Lee is 25 years older than Jeffries and has been in Congress about three times as long as he has.

I was referring to the ppl backing Jeffries but sure.

I've flagged k3v so much it doesn't matter anymore, but yeah...

― Frederik B, Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:50 AM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in which fred b seemingly thinks you can just keep flagging people and this accrues?

I don't know enough to take a side between Jeffries and Lee.

Jeffries is a big money Democrat and a member in good standing of Andrew Cuomo's New York machine. There is no way to spin his victory over Barbara Lee as a sign the party is moving in a progressive direction. https://t.co/639XkN8P3Z

— Zach Carter (@zachdcarter) November 28, 2018

when the usual suspects say that Hakeem Jeffries beating Barbara Lee is actually still a 'victory for progressives', remember what kind of 'progressives' they're talking about https://t.co/IiCamE3sgx pic.twitter.com/K087IjTQeC

— Matt Karp 🌹🦏🇺🇸 (@karpmj) November 28, 2018

Lee is, AFAIK, still maybe best known for this 9/14/01 speech and vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh_sxilhyV0

that's some bullshit, I like Barbara Lee a lot

xp

My org has a strong relationship with Lee (she made a shaky phone call to our founder seeking encouragement minutes before walking to the floor to give that speech) and we were all really hoping she'd come out on top, hallways quiet today

Barbara Lee is a total hero.

fuck these ppl

I do think it's important to note the 10 vote margin there -- people will rightly holler at me for comparing different units as I'm about to do, but looking at the trajectory since Spring 2016, it's super evident to me that far from "losing to moderates over and over," the narrative some might insist on about the left wing of the party, they're getting closer and closer to seizing the apparatus. Note:

Clinton (DNC Delegates): 58.93%
Sanders (DNC Delegates): 39.76%

Perez (DNC Members): 54.02%
Ellison (DNC Members): 45.98%

Jeffries (Caucus): 52.12%
Lee (Caucus): 47.88%

Add the victories from the noted lefty favorites to this narrative and this is looking like we're fighting a long battle that we're moving closer and closer to winning.

BIG HOOS, what is your take on Andrew Yang?

I think he's got a lot of borrowed good ideas (Medicare for All! Let's modernize uh timebanking fuck it why not) to sit alongside his main UBI hobbyhorse, but he's also totally got the flavor of a Silicon Valley Democrat. A lot of focus on ""innovating"" our way out of a variety of complex problems (free, uh, marriage counseling for everyone! find. . . new uses for shut down malls? we're gonna geoengineer the shit out of climate change) and that always gives me pause because it allows space for shitty ideas in the name of eclecticism.

and honestly UBI is complex enough territory that i don't have a clean take on it so i'll leave that one on the table for someone else to tee off

"allows space for shitty ideas in the name of eclecticism" is a useful formulation - thanks.

Dems just elected a "No Labels" person to run House recruiting for 2020 https://t.co/SXmxrH9c1M

— blupman. (@blippoblappo) November 29, 2018

lmao