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xpost "Raging Bull' and "One Eyed jacks" rating the same as "Miami Vice" O0 ?

― An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee)

hmm yea One-Eyed Jacks is more of a 7/10. wonderfully weird, gay movie

flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

And you don't need to change a word for the gay pr0n parody's title.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

didnt get a real gay reading of OEJ when i rewatched last year

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

Alfred OTM re Autumn Sonata. I'd also say the business with the mute, disabled sister goes a bit OTT and ends up in camp territory.

Josefa, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link

and parents don't realize when they're condescending to or undermining their children.

But I think in this particular r/ship the mother very much knew she was condescending and severe to her child - she didn't perhaps know to what extent it had 'damaged' her, but Ingrid knew what she was doing - she was aware that she never had love to give.

It very much shares (with the Piano Teacher) and expands on how demanding it is to make any kind of art for a long time, and who is left behind, or the damage it leaves by its demands on the mind and body (the pianist's back, or the great performance that cannot be conjured up anymore - lost to time) for those that 'make it'.

idk, to me its top 5 - so much that I love about Bergman with some of the uglier aspects made relatively palatable. wrt the disabled sister it could be camp or OTT but I felt he was pushing the audience into uncomfortable territory - seeing disability on the screen (and never mind in this way) is always a challenge because we don't encounter it. I liked that the sister wasn't relegated to the background, and how she became something to be used in that battle between mother and daughter. Cruel, sure - but that's Bergman.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

Shoplifters (Kore-eda, 2018) - this was quite good again - I just like what Kore-eda does. There was a lot more around sex and intimacy than usual for him with all the elements in previous films (getting by in an affluent society, or the unusual arrangements of family) in a light touch manner that brings people over.
Touch Me Not (Pintile, 2018) - there must be some hilarious reviews of this out there on the internet and I am not searching for them. I did like the documentary snapshot at the range of sexuality and desire on display. I saw it on MUBI so need to watch this in the cinema for a more concentrated view. Seemed one of a kind.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

the sex scene was particularly, gratifyingly erotic for being unexpected

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link

Yeah I didn't get the gay subtext ( or overt nature ) of OEJ. Why a 6/10 for Raging Bull?

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link

The Bradshaw review of Touch Me Not was quite hilarious, especially because it was pretty clear he had skipped the press screening and was a bit annoyed that it won. The room was basically half full at that press screening in Berlin, it was a pretty fun experience.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 08:46 (five years ago) link

xp Kinda the same feeling I got from The Master. I know Karl Malden is supposed to be a father figure but, like with Joaquin and PSH, it read to me as some impossible/doomed romance. and besides that, I always get a vibe from Brando. the jeans, too

flappy bird, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link

oh and I never understood the acclaim for Raging Bull. this was the third time I'd seen it, first in at least 8-9 years, and yeah, still feel the same. I love the famous opening credit sequence in theory - classical music over a slow-mo wide shot of LaMotta warming up - but I don't dig the shot, I don't dig that particular piece of music, it doesn't move me, at all. But its fatal flaw is LaMotta, such an uninteresting and boring character. Movie feels so slow and only picks up, "gets good" with the subsequent fights, which are really well done (especially the photo montage ones). Final scene between DeNiro and Pesci is great. Otherwise, beyond Scorsese's superb direction (which alone rates the movie as a 6/10 for me), there's nothing there. for me

flappy bird, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

The B&W photography doesn't help.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

crazee talk

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link

oh the cinematography is the best thing about it

flappy bird, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link

and hard not to compare to Travis Bickle and Rupert Pupkin, two of the most beguiling performances/characters ever

flappy bird, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

i admire it more than *love* it but it's great, i think the unrepentant ugliness of LaMotta as a human being vs the beauty of the film itself is pretty compelling. though i put it below a number of other Scorsese pics.

omar little, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link

night and the city ('92 winkler) 7/10
the ballad of buster scruggs (2018 coens) 3/10
barfly ('87 schroeder) 7/10
the house that jack built (2018 lvt) 2/10
stepmom ('98 columbus) 7/10
hot summer nights (2017 elijah bynum) 7/10
wildlife (2018 dano) 6/10
american animals (2018 bart layton) 4/10
the price of everything (2018 nathaniel kahn) 8/10
kill me again ('89 dahl) 4/10
man up (2015 ben palmer) 9/10
crooked hearts ('91 michael bortman) 6/10

johnny crunch, Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link

The Magnificent Seven (Sturges, 1960)
Quick Change (Franklin/Murray, 1990)
*Trainspotting (Boyle, 1996)
Dheepan (Audiard, 2015)
Performance (Cammell/Roeg, 1970)
Glastonbury Fayre (Neal/Roeg, 1972)
*No Regrets for Our Youth (Kurosawa, 1946)
Mr. Freedom (Klein, 1969)
Tess (Polanski, 1978)
and about 15 minutes of The Awful Truth before Filmstruck went black this morning

some shorts:
Hunger (Foldes, 1974)
Sea Devil (Marcial/Potter, 2014)
Alice's Mysterious Mystery (Disney/Iwerks, 1926)
The Fresh Lobster (unknown, 1948)
Ko-Ko Sees Spooks (Fleischer, 1925)

WmC, Friday, 30 November 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

Kind of guesswork as to where I left off last time, but anyway:

The Czech Year (Trnka, 1947)
The Devil's Mill (Trnka, 1949)
The Emperor's Nightingale (Trnka, 1949)
The Asphyx (Newbrook, 1972)
Twin Peaks: The Missing Pieces (Lynch, 1992/2014)
Video Nasties: Moral Panic, Censorship & Videotape (West, 2010)
Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend (a committee of assholes, 1989)- this was the feature (all three goddamn parts) screened at my first Philadelphia Psychotronic Film Society meeting, and I experienced it as both a personal affront (it fucking sucks) and a test of endurance (it was something like three hours long)
Why UNESCO? (Trnka, 1958)
A Midsummer Night's Dream (Trnka, 1959)
And Then There Were None (Viveiros, 2015)
Resolution (Moorhead & Benson, 2012)
Hereditary (Aster, 2018)
*Perfect Blue (Kon, 1997)
WNUF Halloween Special (LaMartina, 2013)
Mandy (Cosmatos, 2018)
V/H/S (various, 2012)- I don't know why I keep thinking modern anthology horror films will be any good, or that Ti West will ever impress me again
Heavy Metal Parking Lot (Krulik & Heyn, 1986)
Forgetting Sarah Marshall (Stoller, 2008)
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs (Coen, 2018)
Forbidden Zone (Elfman, 1980)

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Friday, 30 November 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

The Night Walker (Castle, 1964) 7
Bohemian Rhapsody (Singer and Sigel, 2018) 6
Murder by Contract (Lerner, 1958) 9
The Thing From Another World (Nyby, 1951) 3; has a few scary moments
The Hound of the Baskervilles (Lanfield, 1939) 6
Seance on a Wet Afternoon (Forbes, 1964) 8

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 1 December 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link

* The Marriage of Maria Braun 4/5
Theodora Goes Wild (1936) 3/5
Leningrad Cowboys Go America (1989) 4.5/5
The Silver Cord (1933) 3/5
The Merry Widow (1934) 3.5/5
* Awesome! I Fuckin' Shot That (2006) 3/5
Manila in the Claws of Light (1975) 3.5/5
Can You Ever Forgive Me? (2018) 4/5
Memories of Underdevelopment (1968) 4/5
Heaven Can Wait (1943) 3.5/5

Chris L, Saturday, 1 December 2018 07:59 (five years ago) link

only one this week:

Sicario: Day of the Soldado

The first film had a very sinister lure to it and its thin story was elevated to something more foreboding by both its direction and its screenplay POV from an out-of-the-loop protagonist, and the mysteries only somewhat answered really helped as well. Plus the astonishing score. The sequel is a lesser film which gets by on some great action scenes and a very good core cast (Del Toro, Brolin, Donovan, Isabela Moner.)

It definitely suffers from having somewhat more anonymous skilled craftsman direction -- Sollima seems to come more from the Philip Noyce school of Jack Ryan movies type action as opposed to what Villaneuve brings to the table. That's not an insult, more an observation!

The terrorism/government side of things is really uninteresting; Modine and Keener don't do anything story or character-wise. I wish they'd found another way in to the story, but whatever.

It's decent enough, better than a lot of action flicks but it's missing the original's singular spooky quality. ymmv on this one.

omar little, Saturday, 1 December 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link

13th to the 30th:

120 battements par minute (Campillo, Mangeot 2017) 📺
* Starship Troopers (Verhoeven, Neumeier 1997)
Night Of The Hunter (Laughton, Agee, Grubb 1955) 📽️ 35mm
* Thor: Ragnarok (Waititi, Pearson & al. 2017) 🏋️
The Ballad Of Buster Scruggs (Coen & Coen 2018)
* The Ballad Of Buster Scruggs (Coen & Coen 2018) 📺
Three Days Of The Condor (Pollack, Semple Jr., Rayfiel, Grady 1975) 📺
Addams Family Values (Sonnenfeld, Rudnick 1993)
Slap Shot (Hill, Dowd 1977) 📽️ 35mm
Deceptive Practice: The Mysteries and Mentors of Ricky Jay (Bernstein and Edelstein 2012) 📺
The Nice Guys (Black, Bagarozzi 2016) 📺
* Scott Pilgrim vs. The World (Wright, O'Malley, Bacall 2010) 🏋️

sans lep (sic), Saturday, 1 December 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link

To Have and Have Not (Hawks, 1944) 8/10
The One-Armed Swordsman (Chang Cheh, 1967) 8/10
Suspiria (Guadagnino, 2018) 5/10
Burnt Offerings (Curtis, 1976) 7/10
Shoplifters (Koreeda, 2018) 8/10

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 1 December 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

Reading about this re-make of Suspiria and it just sounds awful.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 1 December 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

Not reading about it cos I have tickets for it on my birthday

Bound 4 da Remoan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 December 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

I went into it so determined NOT to be an Argento purist that it took me a while to realise how bad it mostly was. Happy birthday NV!

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 1 December 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link

Not till a week on Tuesday. My son really liked it but I know our tastes don't always coincide. Still better than going out for a hangover tho :)

Bound 4 da Remoan (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 December 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link

after reading our messageboard tonight I think watching anything but MOTD sounds like a plan.

calzino, Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link

lol wrong thread again, I'm losing it today.

calzino, Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:03 (five years ago) link

but to keep it on topic I'm watching Scotty and the Secret History of Hollywood tonight!

calzino, Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link

A Simple Favor (6.0)
White Boy Rick (5.0)
Mid90s (7.0)
Broadcast News (9.0)
The Passion of Anna (8.0)
Persona (8.0)
How to Steal a Million (6.0)*
Fahrenheit 11/9 (5.0)
Fanny & Alexander (8.5)
The Last Pogo Jumps Again (7.0)

Not sure if I drifted off for 10 minutes during How to Steal a Million or if it was longer. So the rating is somewhat provisional--there really isn't much there besides Audrey Hepburn anyway.

Persona is obviously a 10, maybe Fanny & Alexander too. If I rated films solely on how much their place in film history engaged me, the excitement of watching something masterful and unique, that's what I'd give it. But I rate almost solely on emotional engagement, and it is rather hermetic. (Both Kauffmann and Kael basically wrote that it was like eavesdropping on Bergman's innermost thoughts--praise for him, a limitation for her.) Broadcast News I'd give a, I don't know, 3.0 for its place in film history--it's of zero consequence. But it does, for whatever reason, move me.

clemenza, Sunday, 2 December 2018 07:49 (five years ago) link

Dead Souls (Wang Bing, 2018) - this has been compared to Shoah and while both centre around testimonies of camp survivors (in this case of the Jiabiangou and Mingshui re-education camps) its a completely different approach, to its credit. Bing seldom resorts to a cinematic approach, he allows the survivors the time and space they need to tell and share what they can (Lanzmann would cajole them to get what he wanted) and doesn't push them if they aren't able to (as in a couple of cases). In a couple of examples we hear from the wives of the men who either survived the camps or died (as in the last case - where the link to the events of the Cultural Revolution taking place a few years later is made in the most harrowing of ways). Wang Bing, unlike Lanzmann, doesn't appear to have as much of an ego - you only see him twice and in the most discreet of ways. All in all its quite an achievement.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 December 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link

On a plane to and from Oslo:

Kingsman: The Secret Service (.000001/10)
Avengers: Infinity War (.00001/10)
The Predator (.5/10)
Mission: Impossible - Fallout (2/10)
The Meg (3/10)

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 2 December 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link

sorry for your flight looks like it was a drag

flappy bird, Sunday, 2 December 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link

I would never have watched any of these movies had I not been on a plane. The Meg had some decent jump scares, and, you know, Jason Statham fighting a giant shark. And with the Mission: Impossible movie, at least you knew Tom Cruise actually fucked himself up doing his own stunts. But that Avengers thing, holy fuck.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 2 December 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

xxxp otm, also saw it this week. thought it was interesting that Wang only becomes a visual presence when he interviews the cadre.

devvvine, Sunday, 2 December 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

*A Story of Water (Truffaut et Godard, 1961)
Les Mistons (Truffaut, 1957)
Broadway Love (Park, 1918)
Off the Record (Henabery, 1934)
*Leap Year (Cruze & Arbuckle, 1921)
Old Czech Legends (Trnka, 1953)
My Grandfather's Clock (Feist, 1934)
There Ain't No Santa Claus (Parrott, 1926)

I Feel Bad About My Butt (j.lu), Sunday, 2 December 2018 23:52 (five years ago) link

thought it was interesting that Wang only becomes a visual presence when he interviews the cadre.

yes, and shot at this angle where Wang was looking at him at all times.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 December 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

will have to catch Wang's Dead Souls at some point. I love Lanzmann and lots of the important work he did, but he could be a ruthless interviewer, and I think it's fair to say that you shouldn't do that any more. Not meant as a criticism of Lanzmann because it was a different era, a different scale of atrocity he was chronicling, a different generation etc...

calzino, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:22 (five years ago) link

in theaters past month & a half

A Clockwork Orange (Kubrick, 1971) - 9/10
The Old Man & the Gun (Lowery, 2018) - 7/10
Mid90s (Hill, 2018) - 5/10
Beautiful Boy (Van Groeningen, 2018) - 3/10
Smiles of a Summer Night (Bergman, 1955) - 10/10
Can You Ever Forgive Me? (Heller, 2018) - 7/10
Wanda (Loden, 1970) - 10/10
Wildlife (Dano, 2018) - 4/10
Boy Erased (Edgerton, 2018) - 2/10
Widows (McQueen, 2018) - 4/10
Instant Family (Anders, 2018) - 6/10
The Seventh Seal (Bergman, 1957) - 10/10
Nobody’s Fool (Perry, 2018) - 4/10
Green Book (Farrelly, 2018) - 4/10
Playtime (Tati, 1967) - 10/10
Mirai (Hosoda, 2018) - 6/10
Baby Doll (Kazan, 1956 / 35mm) - 5/10
Casque d’Or (Becker, 1952 / 35mm) - 9/10

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 04:53 (five years ago) link

flappy bird your passion for Bergman has convinced me to explore his films

Dan S, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 04:58 (five years ago) link

Aniki Bóbó (de Oliveira)
No, or the Vainglory of Command (de Oliveira)
Voyage to the Beginning of the World (de Oliveira)
Mandala (Im Kwon-taek)
Sopyonje (Im Kwon-taek)
The Housemaid (Im Sang-soo)
The Net (Kim)
The Day a Pig Fell Into the Well (Hong)
Yourself & Yours (Hong)
On the Beach at Night Alone (Hong)
Claire’s Camera (Hong)
Five Boys from Barska Street (A. Ford)
Knights of the Teutonic Order (A. Ford)
The First Day of Freedom (A. Ford)
Dear Wendy (Vinterberg, script by von Trier)
The House That Jack Built (von Trier)
Titicut Follies (Wiseman)
Ex Libris (Wiseman)
A Bomb Was Stolen (Popescu-Gopo)
Opera Jawa (Nugroho)
Gosford Park (Altman)
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs (Coen & Coen)
The Other Side of the Wind (Welles)

Frederik B, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 08:28 (five years ago) link

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (Huston, 1948) 9/10
Three (To, 2016) 6/10
No Home Movie (Akerman, 2010) 9/10
Predators (Antal, 2010) - a spanish dub, seemed ok?
Suspiria (Argento, 1977) 7/10
Dead Souls (Wang, 2018) 8/10
Shoplifters (Kore-eda, 2018) 7/10
Bram Stoker’s Dracula (Coppola, 1992) 7/10
* The Red Shoes (Powell, Pressburger, 1948) 8/10

devvvine, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 09:28 (five years ago) link

what's the streaming service to watch like bergman and ozu again? that exists right

no art house w/in 300 miles of me and i want to check some of these out. have no idea who kore-eda even is.

macropuente (map), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 04:27 (five years ago) link

Kanopy.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 11:38 (five years ago) link

Korla (Turner, 2015): Documentary about the musician and personality Korla Pandit. He had a pretty interesting story, and the doc was low-key enough to not get in the way. Interviews with Santana, Harry Edwards, Ben Fong-Torres, the Muffs, etc. Really changed the way I think about Liberace.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

The Ballad of Buster Scruggs (Coens, 2018) 9/10
*Gilda Live (Nichols, 1980) 8/10
The Great McGinty (Sturges, 1940) 7/10
*The Fog (Carpenter, 1980) 7/10
The Mortal Storm (Borzage, 1940) 6/10
BlacKkKlansman (Lee, 2018) 7/10
*The Shop Around the Corner (Lubitsch, 1940) 10/10
The Incredibles 2 (Bird, 2018) 7/10
The Other Side of the Wind (Welles, 2018) 5/10
They'll Love Me When I'm Dead (Neville, 2018) 6/10

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Saturday, 8 December 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

flappy bird your passion for Bergman has convinced me to explore his films

― Dan S, Monday, December 3, 2018 11:58 PM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

get the box 😈

flappy bird, Sunday, 9 December 2018 05:33 (five years ago) link

The Secret Bride (Dieterle, 1934)
Next Aisle Over (1919)
Triumph of the Heart (Molander, 1929)
A Little Hero (Sennett, 1913)
Woman Haters (Gottler, 1934)
Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald (Yates, 2018)
The Night Before Christmas (Jackson, 1933)
The Emperor's Nightingale (Trnka, 1949)
Smash Your Baggage (Mack, 1932)
The Ascent (Shepitko, 1977)

I Feel Bad About My Butt (j.lu), Monday, 10 December 2018 01:54 (five years ago) link


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