US Politics December 2018: ~very legal and very cool~

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Not to get all 'dewy-eyed naïf' up in this piece, but I don't even know how government can play-act at representing the will of the people when they pull shit like this.

Mom's out working, for fulfillment (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

so doc c, you're saying walker was hit by orbital lasers seconds after being elected

We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

cause "The People" exist mainly in their own mind

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link

Here's one of the guys who wrote twitter's code lolling at Rudy:

Hey @tw and @bcherry, remember all the debates we had about the linkifying regex around edge cases like this? Rudy is super upset with us for "https://t.co/3YnF3iGucu"

Rudy, if you don't like it this behavior, put spaces after periods or send patches to https://t.co/CLidW5MrZX https://t.co/btByWkExYF

— Patrick Ewing (@hoverbird) December 5, 2018

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link

I don't even know how government can play-act at representing the will of the people when they pull shit like this.

They don't want to have to play-act, they want to do this stuff under the rug and hope nobody notices. They didn't succeed. Getting the election moved to benefit their supreme court candidate was a big goal and that got killed once people got wind of it. This is dirty as hell but they can't really change the fact that there's going to be a new governor and a new attorney general and a lot of things are going to be fundamentally different around here for the next four years at least. And they are cementing their reputation as the dirty party in the process. I think this is a mistake for them in the long term.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link

counterpoint: there is no long term

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link

If they ram this through, do the Dems have enough legislative votes to reverse it next year?

WmC, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link

i feel like this is exactly the type of move that feels good in the present but will backfire on them

omar little, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/419527-exclusive-consumer-bureau-analysis-says-name-change-could-cost-firms-300

tl;dr mick mulvaney wants to change the name of the CFPB to "BCFP". the adminstative burden of this will cost banks $300m. cry me a river, but these administration people are so weird (as well as stupid).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link

If they ram this through, do the Dems have enough legislative votes to reverse it next year?

No. If that were the case, there would be no point. The idea is that thanks to the current district lines, which among other things fold large chunks of (Democratic) Milwaukee county into hard-red suburban districts, Dems would have to win the statewide vote by 8 points or so in order to get an Assembly majority. That's more than Walker ever won by. The legislature is trying to grab power for itself because it's the only branch of the government that's successfully immunized itself from public anger.
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Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

xp arbitrarily changing the names of things and other twiddling is an economic stimulus/job creation tactic, surely

mh, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

it’s a ‘desperately trying to look busy’ tactic, sure

We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link

Not much different than corporations reconfiguring initiatives and retitling divisions in order to highlight new executive 'achievements'.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

the agency doesn't match the name described in the bill, we need to make it technically correct: the best kind of correct

mh, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

I posted this elsewhere but might as well ask here as well, any details welcome.

It's so despicable and infuriating that we can declare a national holiday with ~24 hours notice (totally screwing over many thousands of people in the process due to disrupted mail delivery) because a vile mass murderer died, yet Election Day remains a regular workday. I would love more info about this disgusting abuse of power if people can provide details - who signed this order, how did it happen? This has Miller written all over it.

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

uhhhh... it’s happened every time a president’s died for awhile now.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

link?

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_day_of_mourning

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

that doesn't say anything about shutting down the government, just flags at half-mast.

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link

I became a Fed in 2006, so I can’t speak for anything earlier than that, but I got a day off today and when Ford died.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

weird, there are zero details about any Ford-related shutdowns here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_state_funeral_of_Gerald_Ford

just another "National Day Of Mourning" with no details...

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

Ah thanks, what a bunch of bullshit. My point about Election Day stands, and I can now assume that Trump ordered this directly.

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

Over the top In ethical behavior

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link

wonder how different today would be if it were jimmy carter who'd died

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link

otm

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

national new peanut tariff day

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

Billy Beer suddenly flooding supermarket shelves.

For a superlative chug, only the eggiest nog will do! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link

can't wait

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link

billions in new funding for habitat for humanity no wait

We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link

(to finally have a Billy Beer, that is, not for Carter do die)

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link

wonder how different today would be if it were jimmy carter who'd died

In all honesty I think Carter will get a similarly loving treatment. He's far enough in the past that it's safe for Republicans to lay off him. If Obama dropped dead tomorrow, on the other hand, Trump would issue an executive order titled "Home at Last" demanding that his body be stuffed in a sack and dropped from a plane over Kenya. And half the country would describe this as "grappling with his predecessor's complicated legacy."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

these Nazi rapist pigs wouldn't honor Carter if you held a gun to their heads

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

(speculation, granted, but I stand by it)

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

Shakey you just need to find a really old jacket to taste that sweet sweet Billy Beer.

From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

it will be non-stop "malaise" and Iran hostage talk mark my words

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

Trump will recall the time Carter told that kid not to eat the brown acid

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link

"He wanted us to wear sweaters indoors!"

The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link

He's far enough in the past that it's safe for Republicans to lay off him.

Safe, maybe, but they won't.

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

he will forever be known to anyone to the Right of, well, Carter as the Second Worst President of All Time After the Black One.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

Democrats are so used to reflexively hating him that they'll be pressed to find one thing worth salvaging from his presidency. Instead, we'll hear a lot of guff about the "post-presidency" and surviving cancer and "the 120-year love affair between the president and Rosalynn."

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

@charles_kinbote
When Carter dies people are still gonna look at the malaise speech as an error of monumental proportions but Carter was right. Our hunger for a paternal west wing style speech that changes everything, except Carter did this and was absolutely crucified for it

@pareene
It was literally the last time an American president ever actually tried to deliver "harsh but necessary truths" to the American people, or whatever cliche the sober pundit class is always pretending they want to hear. Not one has even tried since.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

Carter has plague.

You think they're scooching away from him? That is a man fueled by a boundless love of humanity and a seething, remorseless hatred of individual humans, especially his so-called "peers."

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

they know he has lust in his heart

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

i know we have google and all but its more fun to ask here and get more creative answers please what is the malaise speech

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

In 1979 Carter convened a meeting of elites (writers, thinkers, economists) on a mountain, came down off it (really, the jokes write themselves if you're George Will), and deliverd a televised address in which he said we faced a "crisis of confidence" stemming from a decade of assassinations, the Vietnam War, Watergate, and so on. To this day I don't know what the hell was wrong with it other than that Carter is a zero as a public speaker (I remember him balling his fists at one point; he looked like Mark Hamil acting tough).

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link

What went wrong was that Carter didn't say "USA #1." xp

From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link

The whole thing (33 minutes!) is here:

https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/presidential-speeches/july-15-1979-crisis-confidence-speech

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link


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