Democratic (Party) Direction

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i don't want people to respect the dignity of my work. i want to not work.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

Admittedly it would be dope if he or anyone could run on an anti-work line.

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

a recommended anthology for the anti-work gang: https://secure.pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=968

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

(don't read bob black if u can avoid it imo)

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link

i don't wanna work why would i wanna read

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

lol otm about Bob Black

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

she's ideologically terrifying + physically attractive = ie clickbait for right-wing outlets

oh god she's the left-wing Tomi Lahren

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

god thats insulting to AOC

21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:37 (five years ago) link

so insulting.

Yerac, Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link

FP-worthy, almost.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 6 December 2018 01:18 (five years ago) link

By rights, the conservative commentariat ought to be calling her "The Honorable Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez".

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 6 December 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link

Robby Mook lives!

Democrats are at war over the party’s most precious commodity — voter data — and it’s threatening their chances of beating President Donald Trump in 2020.

The fight involves a trove of Democratic voter information splintered among state parties, outside groups and the Democratic National Committee. The DNC wants to pool all of it into one massive database that could be leveraged to the benefit of the party’s eventual presidential nominee. But state parties are accusing the national party of mounting a power grab that could enrich a handful of elite party figures.

“We have a crisis,” said Robby Mook, Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager in 2016. “Republicans are going to have a major strategic advantage over us in 2020 if we don’t fix it.”

But the DNC’s answer has provoked a fierce backlash among state parties, who have most of the ownership rights to the party’s voter file. Tensions flared at a meeting of state-based party officials here last week.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/06/democratic-national-committee-voters-data-1045995

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

.@Ocasio2018 makes me believe what Arundhati Roy said: “Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing.” https://t.co/f2iGtT7T9V

— Saikat Chakrabarti (@saikatc) December 5, 2018

Y'know it may go without saying that I'm generally an AOC fan, and this guy (her Chief of Staff) is smart and fine, but man starry eyed stuff like this from one's own staff, aside from putting a remarkable amount of pressure on anyone, just feels like such a bad look

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 6 December 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link

yeah that's super cringeworthy

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link

i don't see the problem with it? why not feel moved by the possibility that a better world is just over the horizon and that we can help bring it into being?

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 6 December 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

I think the problem is your paid employees saying stuff like that about you. It doesn't bug me that much but it doesn't seem strange to me to be bugged by it.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link

i've never had any paid employees so i dunno but saying that i make them believe that a new world is on its way.... seems like not a big deal?

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

or is the issue that you think it's unclear that "her" refers to the previous "she," which refers to "another world," and that all of that is within the quote from Roy?

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link

this is why interns are traditionally not paid, so they can serve that function

j., Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link

she's making a point of paying all staff iirc

idk I agree w HOOS that it's a bad look, esp given the media climate

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link

Given climate change, hoping for a better world is a...big lift.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link

I think sticking boilerplate sub-Coldplay jangly guitar anthem music under a speech undercuts any substantive message, since it transmutates words, however inspiring, into similarly boilerplate Campaign-ese.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link

also lemme say that arundhati roy quote has graced basically all my social media presences repeatedly over the years, i love it & it's not my primary concern

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link

its more the 'my boss is gonna save us you guys' tone that grates for me

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link

piling on the expectations/hype for someone who is basically a promising rookie is short sighted imo

sleeve, Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link

It's kind of a catch-22, isn't it? We don't want to overhype or deify politicians because they are after all, flawed people working within a broken system--but on the other hand personalities that inspire this level of admiration are one of the major things that gets people excited about politics & drives voter engagement.

days of being riled (zchyrs), Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link

clearly what he shd have posted is "listening to AOC makes me believe that very little is possible and we should all give up now"

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

C'mon Doc I'm an inspiration merchant I sympathize but

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

I didn't think "don't paint yr public-servant boss like a messianic prophet" would be a controversial principle but here we are

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

I think AOC has potential to be a pretty significant force in the democratic party, but getting peoples' hopes up about her actually achieving anything in the near future is only gonna disillusion them. unless all they want from her is to own ppl on twitter, in that case, anything is possible.

iatee, Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

i do think the goosing her spotlight has given the green new deal is both uniquely possible because of who she is and has already irrevocably changed american climate politics

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

she's arguably done more for climate issues than any other Dem pol in the last 30 years and she's not even seated yet

frogbs, Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

that is a demonstrable falsheood

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

falsehood

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

Pelosi passed bills and Obama issued significant rules and treaty commitments

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

so far her accomplishments are zero, let's be real. she's hitting the ground running and that's great but come on.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link

"messianic prophet" ? she makes him believe a better world is achievable. isn't that a basic assumption of anybody advancing a progressive agenda? "progress" and all?

and it's not like he said "AOC makes me believe only she can bring a better world." i know we're all cynics here but imo "this politician inspires me" is not in and of itself a dangerous or doomed-to-fail notion.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

she's arguably done more for climate issues than any other Dem pol in the last 30 years and she's not even seated yet

― frogbs, Thursday, December 6, 2018 1

oh come now

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link

the only people who care about sub coldplay music paired with an arundhati roy quote are posting in this thread fwiw

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link

sorry just trying to make up for my "left wing Tomi Lahren" comment

hope we're even now

(that said I really like the idea of 30-ish congresspeople taking up the issue rather than someone like Pelosi)

frogbs, Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link

so far her accomplishments are zero, let's be real. she's hitting the ground running and that's great but come on.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, December 6, 2018 6:58 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

her accomplishments aren't heroically epic, being not yet seated, but they're not zero either

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link

the way she's denaturalized the politics of how congress pays its staff & interns, the way she's directed her star power to raise the profile of issues & approaches that themselves have been off the table for serious discussion --that's not nothing

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link

I for one am mainly enjoying these little glimpses into just how insane/inane Washington political orthodoxy is

Right now Freshman members of Congress are at a “Bipartisan” orientation w/ briefings on issues.

Invited panelists offer insights to inform new Congressmembers‘ views as they prepare to legislate.

# of Corporate CEOs we’ve listened to here: 4
# of Labor leaders: 0

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@Ocasio2018) December 6, 2018

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

yeah I really like that she's lifting the curtain on some of this stuff that people never talk about

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

yup yup

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link

agreed, good stuff

sleeve, Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link

I have no idea whether the Green New Deal will result in a federal climate law two or five or 10 years from now. The proposal clearly has momentum on the left. Since early November, I’ve seen the Green New Deal talked about as a story of Democrats in disarray, or as another example of the party’s turn toward socialism. Both analyses miss the mark. The Green New Deal is one of the most interesting—and strategic—left-wing policy interventions from the Democratic Party in years.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/12/ocasio-cortez-green-new-deal-winning-climate-strategy/576514/?fbclid=IwAR3jKPtZ-aU6c9ZbUWOJ1dH2YfvWiPLNb3zFbV9kZn27Pj3ExZejph9831U

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link

AOC in congress is already more than I hoped for and she's not even in congress yet.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 6 December 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

ditto

Mordy, Thursday, 6 December 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link

joe manchin, ladies & gents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIJORBRpOPM

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 6 December 2018 20:06 (five years ago) link


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