as someone who liked both movies v much I think hereditary >> mandy is a defensible opinion
more than anything though I cannot recall a first feature in recent memory from a total unknown that made this much of an impact and I'm v curious to see what he does next
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 31 December 2018 04:44 (five years ago) link
Maybe dont watch his vimeo short as it is even more disturbing than hereditary
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 31 December 2018 04:49 (five years ago) link
Toni collette deserves an oscar nomination btw
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 31 December 2018 04:50 (five years ago) link
She'll get one, I think.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 31 December 2018 04:51 (five years ago) link
peter's crying in this movie is kind of amazing, I didn't think there was a way to cry in a movie that I haven't heard before and that I would find startling and upsetting, the way it is when you actually encounter a person crying in real life
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 31 December 2018 05:30 (five years ago) link
Alex Wolff's performance/screen presence was so unusual that I was surprised to discover he has a ton of credits already
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 31 December 2018 05:50 (five years ago) link
btw Aster's followup is out in August so we can expect a trailer soon
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 31 December 2018 06:16 (five years ago) link
another vote for hereditary >>>>>> mandy
I thought Mandy had some cheap nudge nudge wink wink elements, but hereditary was unique and inspired.
― Darin, Monday, 31 December 2018 06:27 (five years ago) link
i would like to clarify that i didn't hate this, it just didn't go far enough for me. i wish it felt open-ended but it feels extremely closed off. this is a fine and ok thing for a movie to be but it frustrated the hell out of me. i will also say that endings adversely affect the way i think of the rest of a film. also in my initial post i did not clarify that i think the first 90 minutes of this are p terrific
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 31 December 2018 10:13 (five years ago) link
mandy is a v unique and powerfully emotional movie for me so it's hard for me to not rise to its defense on every occasion lol
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 31 December 2018 10:15 (five years ago) link
otherwise beyond visuals/score effectiveness i don't see much reason to think of both movies at the same time
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 31 December 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link
there isn't -- i just put it out there because i really super enjoyed both of the movies, both of the scores, and two big symbiotic audiovisual experiences like that don't usually happen in one year, at least not for me. i really liked both of them. hereditary will stay with me more for the movie, mandy more for the score. we don't have to keep talking about mandy itt.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 31 December 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link
well this was traumatizing
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:39 (five years ago) link
also lol what universe are you guys living in where horror movies win Oscars
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:41 (five years ago) link
Last year?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link
I thought Shape of Water was a rom com
I guess they did give one to Jordan Peele so ya got me there
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
Collette will def be nominated
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 14 January 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link
She was nominated for Sixth Sense, too, iirc her only previous Oscar nomination. I guess she should do horror more often?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link
Natalie Portman won Best Actress for Black Swan
― Number None, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link
damn toni went sicko mode
― flappy bird, Friday, 28 June 2019 04:42 (four years ago) link
tee hee
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 28 June 2019 04:58 (four years ago) link
shoulda really got an oscar nod here
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 28 June 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link
yeah she's phenomenal in this
― big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 June 2019 12:38 (four years ago) link
http://wtfbabe.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/hereditary-55-gif-blue-light-special-wtf-watch-the-film-saint-pauly1.gif
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 28 June 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
yea wtfEarly summer release + horror = long way to go for a nomStill tho
― flappy bird, Friday, 28 June 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link
Wow, I managed to go this whole time without getting any spoilers about this movie (nothing beyond someone making a joke sometime back about a decapitation), so went in more or less blind. And boy, did I not expect it to go full batshit! From Rosemary's Baby to The Witch, I love movies where there is no twist and what you think is happening is what's happening. This one, though, for most of it I watched it as a kind of cross between The Sixth Sense and Manchester by the Sea, but then towards the end, when it goes nuts ... hats off, crazy filmmakers.
Toni Collette was great in this. Everyone the boy, maybe, who seemed a little too ... old?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 July 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link
damn Manchester by the Sea comparison is OTM
― flappy bird, Friday, 5 July 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
Well, this was a bit of fun.
― Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Monday, 8 July 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link
Just to continue the discussion here instead of the other thread, since I haven't seen the new movie yet, I do agree that Rosemary's Baby is more successful. Which in and of itself is kind of duh, because Rosemary's Baby is a masterpiece ratified by decades of reverence (and reference). But I do agree that Hereditary gets a little undisciplined toward the end. Or perhaps too disciplined? It's such a bigger, more open world than RB, and (or so) it's established pretty early on that something supernatural is up. What it kind of rushes into at the end is the resolution that the family has been set up into a situation, yeah, more obscure than, oh, it's Satanists, a concept/threat everyone kind of gets. But Hereditary introduces all these weird rules and stuff that have to be explained into the movie's conclusion, but by then we've moved so far beyond "this is all in her head" that it gets kind of ... impatient and off, especially for a movie whose running time is pretty much half people turning around slowly and staring in terror at something off screen. Still effective, though!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 July 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link
I just saw this with no knowledge except that it was vaguely horror. Wow, the sucker punch of the decapitation just comes out of no where to such an extent that it kind of took the next third of the movie to recover. Possibly because of this, the middle annoyed me as Collette sort of spastically lurches from scene to scene in repressed horror trying to resolve the situation in dumb ways (sceance, etc.), which I guess I get in light of her grasping to deal with a terrible situation. Really liked the last twenty minutes when things just went full on crazy. So many creepy touches like Collette sawing her own head off to her body floating away to the corpses being posed in worship to the end song.
The grave tension of Collette and Byrne with the book resolving with Byrne suddenly bursting into flames took me by surprise and I started laughing out loud!
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Monday, 22 July 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
Finally watched this, on Amazon Prime, and regardless of a lot of other thoughts and feelings I just can't think of another recent movie that kept me so constantly off-kilter. The use of colors, the instant day-to-night transitions, the instant location changes, it just all combined to keep me feeling uncomfortable and wrong-footed. Were the establishing exteriors actually tilt-shifted miniatures, or were they just shot that way to strengthen the metaphor regarding the miniatures that Annie makes?
I kinda want to watch it again, to see if Joan is visible at the funeral at the beginning.
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Friday, 9 August 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link
I did love how in all of the early scenes, up through the dinner scene, the only way Toni Collette and the son could talk to each other was by asking each other questions, without ever actually answering or making a statement.
I wish genre movies didn't get overlooked, she really did deserve an Oscar nod.
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Friday, 9 August 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link
Again, genre movies don't get as overlooked as one might assume. Get Out won best screenplay the previous year, and was nominated for a ton of other things. And Toni Collette's single previous Oscar nomination was for The Sixth Sense. So it happens. But as much as the Oscars still denote some kind of symbolic victory, the important thing is that literally everybody recognizes Toni Collette's performance in this movie to be incredible.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 August 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link
Hadn't seen this before. 30 minutes in. Paused until my anxiety attack settles down.
― Fox Pithole Britain (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link
not being able to do this live is what made seeing this in a packed theater such a memorable experience
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 27 September 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
that was where my wife peaced out entirely iirc xp
― Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 September 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link
Yea it's why as much as i loved it, a rewatch is not forthcoming
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 September 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link
this movie was scary as fuck, and I have seen my fair share of horror flicks
I would rewatch just to try and figure some shit out, plus like Midsomar there are some great shots
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Saturday, 12 December 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link
creepiest parts:
smiling Peter in the glass reflectionmom banging her head against the attic doorfirst manifestations of the naked people*cluck*
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Saturday, 12 December 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link
the high speed decapitation and headless daughter sitting in car in driveway gave me nausea
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link
every now and again, when half asleep going to the bathroom in the middle of the night, i get an image of the naked guy smiling in the corner and i have to banish it as quickly as possible as a dangerous brain worm
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 December 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link
yup that was like Shining bear-suit level creepy
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:49 (three years ago) link
I watched this last night and didn't get much from it. I dampened my feelings about Collette's suffering because it was basically too gruelling (the scene in the bedroom after she's discovered the daughter is precisely the scene that most movies leave out and for good reason - it was too much), which mostly meant I found the histrionics overpowering and they took me out of the film. The thunk as she sawed her own head off made me mutter a 'thank christ for that'.
I enjoyed the pacing of the first half, but the rapid speed of the final third made me think of a whole bunch of post-Conjuring films that mistake elevation for tension and maybe even psychedelia (Mandy absolutely doesn't fit this pattern).
What's stayed with me is the commentary on parenthood (much the same as its twin in gruelling misery, The Babadook) and the terror of failure, of passing one's neuroses and suffering on to your own kids. And reading this thread has definitely made me wish I'd seen it at the theatre. Awesome score, obvs.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Sunday, 30 October 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link
You gotta wonder
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClRkIjSvgrx/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link
hmm. over/under $200?
― Nhex, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link
Under!
https://shop.a24films.com/products/hereditary-gingerbread-house
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link